The Manchester United thread 2006/2007 - featuring BBB leaving early

[BBB]

I brought this up on Saturday but stolen from RN too

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> For anyone who bought a programme on Saturday, it was interesting to read John O'Shea's run down of his United team-mates. I can't recall word for word what he said about KR, but the first sentance was definitely "He isn't shy". He went on to say that KR thought he was the bees knees at the PSP and could learn a thing or two from himself and Wes Brown.

Interestingly though, not a thing was mentioned of how hard he works (or doesn't work?) in training, or his footballing ability, or effort he puts in on the field. Every comment was about his personality and pointed towards how he requires being brought down a peg or too.

On the train from Witton to New Street, I read every other player's profile and I think all of them had some sort of comment of his effort on the pitch or what he has done for the club or this and that. It was interesting to note than O'Shea's offering about KR was a thinly veiled disguise at calling him a knob, basically. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Crilly]

O'Shea continues to get better and better.

[ACou2000]

JOS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KR

although that could be applied to almost any living person I guess

[ajw2255]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Crilly:

O'Shea continues to get better and better. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[ACou2000]

WHY did he have to score vs Watford

you just know that'll give Fergie a reason to extend his contract for another couple of years :/

[mark g]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ACou2000:

WHY did he have to score vs Watford

you just know that'll give Fergie a reason to extend his contract for another couple of years :/ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was wondering if we could petition the FA to retrospectively chalk off the goal for offside?

[ACou2000]

yeah it's ridiculous isnt it, but on the replays I was actually looking and hoping for an opportunity to call him offside

really does deserve ZERO praise

[Saha]

O'Shea has earnt the right recently to not be compared with Richardson, ever.

[Coldberg]

We are basically being charged more because it's the first final at the new Wembley & because they massively overspent on the new stadium. Robbing *****.

[RSB]

\o/

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Manchester United have confirmed that Rio Ferdinand could be fit to face Sheffield United on Tuesday.

The Red Devils face a hectic fixture schedule as the season enters its final stretch, and with injuries mounting - United will be relieved to learn that Ferdinand does not have a serious injury.

He limped out of Saturday's FA Cup semi-final win over Watford with a groin injury which has troubled him in recent weeks, amid fears that he had seriously aggravated it.

However, Sir Alex Ferguson has confirmed that Ferdinand is okay and could line-up at Old Trafford against Sheffield United.

With Gary Neville, Mikael Silvestre, John O'Shea and Nemanja Vidic already sidelined - news of Ferdinand's all-clear will be a real boost to Ferguson. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

From SSN website.

[SLO_Fila]

Wonder what the prices would have been if the final consisted of Watford vs. Blackburn.

[SLO_Fila]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RSB:

\o/

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Manchester United have confirmed that Rio Ferdinand could be fit to face Sheffield United on Tuesday.

The Red Devils face a hectic fixture schedule as the season enters its final stretch, and with injuries mounting - United will be relieved to learn that Ferdinand does not have a serious injury.

He limped out of Saturday's FA Cup semi-final win over Watford with a groin injury which has troubled him in recent weeks, amid fears that he had seriously aggravated it.

However, Sir Alex Ferguson has confirmed that Ferdinand is okay and could line-up at Old Trafford against Sheffield United.

With Gary Neville, Mikael Silvestre, John O'Shea and Nemanja Vidic already sidelined - news of Ferdinand's all-clear will be a real boost to Ferguson. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

From SSN website. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I just hope he doesn't risk him. I am confident that we can do Sheffield with a completely improvised defence.

[Taz & The Devil]

I imagine Cathcart will play tonight so that would rule him out for tomorrow so i wouldnt be suprised to see us rush Rio back.

Yet again he might just play Richardson.

[SLO_Fila]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Taz & The Devil:

I imagine Cathcart will play tonight so that would rule him out for tomorrow so i wouldnt be suprised to see us rush Rio back.

Yet again he might just play Richardson. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now i am confident we can do Sheffield with an improvised defence (Cathcart, Fletcher or whoever in there with Heinze in the middle, Brown all over the place just not defending where he should etc) but i am not THAT confident as to have HIM in the line-up

[BBB]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Saha:

O'Shea has earnt the right recently to not be compared with Richardson, ever. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I LOVE the O'Shea song, utterly fantastic

[ACou2000]

f**k off Wesley is fb

[ACou2000]

Evra Heinze Wes Fletch

is what I'd have.. "should" be good enough to hold out and concede less goals than we score tonight :/

[14AlanSmithifb]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ACou2000:

f**k off Wesley is fb </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

whs

[ACou2000]

tonight? :/

tomorrow.

[SLO_Fila]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ACou2000:

f**k off Wesley is fb </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not when he needs to impose himself as the leader of the defence.

He can look good with Rio or Vidic near him but not alone.

[14AlanSmithifb]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SLO_Fila:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ACou2000:

f**k off Wesley is fb </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not when he needs to impose himself as the leader of the defence.

He can look good with Rio or Vidic near him but not alone. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He looked a lot steadier than Gabby did at centre half on Saturday.

[ACou2000]

well that's fortunate we play a formation where he doesn't play alone at CB then?

I actually think he's done very well since coming in for Vida...

the vast majority of our uncertainty comes from lacking Neville's organisation/general awesomeness and VdS finally being struck by our post-Schmeichel keeper curse /o\

[ACou2000]

yeah I'll be honest, I dont trust GH at CB at all really :/

he's a penalty waiting to happen. or a diving in missing everything leaving a clean run through for opposition striker waiting to happen.

[SLO_Fila]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 14AlanSmithifb:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SLO_Fila:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ACou2000:

f**k off Wesley is fb </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not when he needs to impose himself as the leader of the defence.

He can look good with Rio or Vidic near him but not alone. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He looked a lot steadier than Gabby did at centre half on Saturday. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That doesn't say much though As much as i love Gabby and still prefer him over Evra he was too much all over the place for a CB. As a left defender it's ok but not as a CB

[ACou2000]

Wes has been absolutely fine.

[SLO_Fila]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ACou2000:

well that's fortunate we play a formation where he doesn't play alone at CB then?

I actually think he's done very well since coming in for Vida...

the vast majority of our uncertainty comes from lacking Neville's organisation/general awesomeness and VdS finally being struck by our post-Schmeichel keeper curse /o\ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We looked good with Neville until Vida went poop.

[SLO_Fila]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SLO_Fila:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ACou2000:

well that's fortunate we play a formation where he doesn't play alone at CB then?

I actually think he's done very well since coming in for Vida...

the vast majority of our uncertainty comes from lacking Neville's organisation/general awesomeness and VdS finally being struck by our post-Schmeichel keeper curse /o\ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We looked good without Neville until Vida went poop. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[ACou2000]

straw that broke the camel's back?

I dont think it's all that in itself, and certainly harsh to blame Wes for our defence becoming more dodgy lately.

Vidic is a loss of course, but Neville's experience and VdS forgetting how to catch have hurt us equally. Wes hasn't made any huge errors that I can recall since coming in? Generally very solid.

[Coldberg]

People are being slightly harsh on VDS I feel. He is bound to be unsettled having seen his defence be totally decimated in the last couple of weeks. All keepers hava rough time when the usually settled backline starts to chop & change every game.

[ACou2000]

yeah at first I was on VdS side, saying 'well the defence is unsettled it's just a one off mistake' ... but if anything he's looked increasingly uncomfortable for some reason, even with the makeshift defence looking relatively decent in front of him.

it's just like the curse has got him, I really hope he gets through it sooner rather than later,

[ACou2000]

put it this way, I'd certainly lay more blame for our conceded goals lately at VdS rather than Wes who really hasn't been at all bad. Very good back up for Vidic in fact.

Rio has of course been a king throughout.

[Coldberg]

I said the Vidic injury was Brown's time to shine & he is doing a damn good job considering before it he wasn't playing at all regularly.

[ACou2000]

exactaspoton

[Nick OGS20]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Gregg Carter:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Gazz22:

It's a bit strange that Kieran Lee hasn't been anywhere near our squad considering our defensive problems lately. Is he injured? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't know, but why would he when we've been pretty much covered in terms of a first team back four even with the injury problems? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

erm, what? we've gone into certain games with four defenders in the squad :/

[Saha]

Oh for the days when we had seven on the field

[James07?]

And to think we all laughed at the stockpiling of left backs.

[Young Jimlad]

Rio Raves About Fletcher

[ACou2000]

now we could be needing to play them at left, centre and right back at once

[ACou2000]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Young Jimlad:

Rio Raves About Fletcher </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

wp all Fletcher/Carrick supporters. we've battled through some tough times but finally justified lately.

[Nick OGS20]

what's our allocation for Milan? can't go unless i win the lottery but i'm thinking i should probably apply anyway to help my cause should we get to the final. just wondering what my chances are of actually ending up with a ticket that i can't use.

[RedBlood]

Just sell it on

[Nick OGS20]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Young Jimlad:

Rio Raves About Fletcher </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

fully deserves that recognition. saturday arguably almost as important as last tuesday in terms of demonstrating his value as a member of the squad.

[Nick OGS20]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RedBlood:

Just sell it on </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

blimey, didn't think of that

[Young Jimlad]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ACou2000:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Young Jimlad:

Rio Raves About Fletcher </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

wp all Fletcher/Carrick supporters. we've battled through some tough times but finally justified lately. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Keeping faith ftw.

[Saha]

Fletch so good

[mark g]

Given a (not too far from the truth) scenario where we only have two options for the back 4 on tuesday, would you

a) Play Rio, given that there's a small but significant chance of him aggravating his groin injury

or

b) Play Richardson left back and juggle the rest of your defence accordingly.

[ACou2000]

why is it not possible to play the defence that ended the Watford game?

that would be my choice.

[Nick OGS20]

c) play Kieran Lee at left-back

[ACou2000]

if, for some bizarre reason, it HAD to be one of those... I think I'd go with b) :/

just because Rio CANNOT be injured for our run-in

[Nick OGS20]

well, actually, i'd got for d) play Kieran Lee at right-back, so Paddy could play on his proper side