georginho_juventusygr Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Officially the top goalscorer in the history of Germany national team. His 69th goal today has surpassed legendary Gerd "The Bomber" Müller's record. Although the later needed fewer matches, still a good achievement for Klose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccer.joel Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 One of my favourite players of all time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Gerd Muller is probably one of my favourite strikers of all time, quite an astonishing strikerate for Germany as well 68 goals in 62 games bit of a shame I wasn't around to see him too much live but I've seen plenty from footage of past games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Hopefully he will keep scoring during the World Cup, but nice he broke Müller's record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Gonzo Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Gerd Muller is probably one of my favourite strikers of all time, quite an astonishing strikerate for Germany as well68 goals in 62 games bit of a shame I wasn't around to see him too much live but I've seen plenty from footage of past games Müller is still the best striker Germany has ever had. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsb3CYjFnOI But fair play to Miro. Fabulous career for someone who spent his youth time at SG Blaubach-Diedelkopf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 I want Miroslav to beat Ronaldo's record at the WC, even though Ronaldo is one of my favourite players ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orzelek Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Well done Miro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noikeee Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Miroslav is a very likeable fella but I don't give a crap what the stats say he's never been half as good as Gerd Muller was. Just another anomaly of the fact these days players pick up so many more caps hence all records end up being from this modern era with very rare exceptions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason the Yank Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 FWIW, Klose: 132 apps, 69 goals Muller: 62 apps, 68 goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 69 goals in 132 is still an amazing record whichever way you look at it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Miroslav is a very likeable fella but I don't give a crap what the stats say he's never been half as good as Gerd Muller was. Just another anomaly of the fact these days players pick up so many more caps hence all records end up being from this modern era with very rare exceptions. You can also argue that der Bomber played in an era where there were many more dwarf teams and tactics weren't developed enough to deal with vastly superior attacking teams. The days when teams like Luxembourg or Malta were beaten 10-0 routinely. As always, it is very hard comparing players, certainly from different eras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 It really doesn't matter if he breaks the world cup record, it's longevity over everything else. He'll never be considered amongst the top players, probably not even top 250. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontermann Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 It really doesn't matter if he breaks the world cup record, it's longevity over everything else. He'll never be considered amongst the top players, probably not even top 250. Yeah right and you will never be considered seriously a poster in this forum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I'm not wrong though. People don't even list him now as a top player, nor did they 5-7 years ago at his peak, he's never been a top class player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontermann Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 you can repeat it as often as you like, it doesnt get much more true Klose has nothing to prove anymore. He´s been a top class player for most of his career. Just because you didnt watch him score goals and foremost provide assists a plenty in the Bundesliga and Serie A doesnt mean he wasnt up there with the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Two joke leagues and even then his record isn't up there with the top players. 1 in 4 for the best team in the league Good at best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontermann Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Two joke leagues and even then his record isn't up there with the top players. Good at best. Best post I read for some time. Trollolol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I think most people rate Klose very highly. Perhaps not "top 250" like you say but then that's a very elite crowd isn't it? Klose is easily one of the top 30 strikers around at the moment and you can probably say that about him for the last 10 years, too. He's never been the elite striker everyone craved, but he's always been a reliable man to spearhead an attack. Will go down in history as a very good striker. Not quite world class, but certainly never poor or to be forgotten. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noikeee Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 You can also argue that der Bomber played in an era where there were many more dwarf teams and tactics weren't developed enough to deal with vastly superior attacking teams. The days when teams like Luxembourg or Malta were beaten 10-0 routinely. As always, it is very hard comparing players, certainly from different eras. He was in the 8-0 over Saudi Arabia. Also, there weren't that many minnows in Muller's era - just compare the sheer number of European nations we have now competing compared to 30 years ago. URSS split, Yugoslavia split, the likes of Liechtenstein and Faroe Islands started fielding up teams, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Expect him to be all time highest scorer in the World Cup during this tournament as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pago Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Is he expected to start for Germany? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 would probably expect Muller to be the one upfront for Germany rather than Klose Klose is the only recognised striker in their squad though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 I certainly would put Klose in my 250 whom I've seen enough. If someone asks me who has been the best striker from Germany from 1998 World Cup onwards, I'll say Klose. You can't really argue against that argument. Nobody has come close to Klose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Probably because Germany haven't produced a top quality striker since Rudi Voller. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontermann Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 apart from Klose that is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob21 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 You can also argue that der Bomber played in an era where there were many more dwarf teams and tactics weren't developed enough to deal with vastly superior attacking teams. The days when teams like Luxembourg or Malta were beaten 10-0 routinely. As always, it is very hard comparing players, certainly from different eras. Think it was also the fact that teams were much more attack-minded back then, I mean who the hell will break the goal records of Dixie Dean & Jimmy Greaves in the current era This is a nice article from Uli Hesse about Muller's prolific year in 72-73 http://www.espnfc.com/story/1228330 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Probably because Germany haven't produced a top quality striker since Rudi Voller. Oliver Bierhoff. Outstanding record for Germany (and his clubs), would have more goals if he didn't make his debut late (late compared to Voller, and in general). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 You can also argue that der Bomber played in an era where there were many more dwarf teams and tactics weren't developed enough to deal with vastly superior attacking teams. The days when teams like Luxembourg or Malta were beaten 10-0 routinely. As always, it is very hard comparing players, certainly from different eras. You take that improved Luxembourg and Malta and switch it with Faroes and San Marinos, etc though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Yeah right and you will never be considered seriously a poster in this forum Haha, so defensive whenever someone says anything about Germany Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Oliver Bierhoff. Outstanding record for Germany (and his clubs), would have more goals if he didn't make his debut late (late compared to Voller, and in general). I had a think about him but don't think he was ever top class, was good though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontermann Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Haha, so defensive whenever someone says anything about Germany it was a cheek in tongue reply and not meant that seriously Bierhoff: He was a very late bloomer sadly for him and his reputation, i dont rate him up there with Voller and Klose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennon67 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I've always liked Klose, especially when I stuck a tenner on him to finish Top Goal Scorer at 2006 World Cup, won me £250 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widzew Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 and yet he's Polish... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontermann Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 this joke never gets old Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicardoW Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Never really liked Klose, but can't agree with JMR, he's a great striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Praying Ronaldo keeps his record Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Would be a shame if Klose got the record. Pretty good striker but nothing special in the grand scheme of things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 He's just boring. And not even remotely as good as Ronaldo was, so yeah it'd be a shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontermann Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 He's just boring. And not even remotely as good as Ronaldo was, so yeah it'd be a shame. nice trolling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 nice trolling its true though, isnt it? Klose is a decent player whos played at a consistent level for good teams, but he is nowhere near what Ronaldo was at his peak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamenaglar Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Klose isn't technically a brilliant footballer, but at his prime he was a brilliant striker. Intelligent off-the ball movement, both vertically and laterally, he could assist as well as score. He was tall and powerful, fairly quick as well. But as I said, he is so underrated because his best asset was intelligence and movement, which often goes unnoticed. He can spearhead an attack as a lone forward leading the line, he can play in a more fluid system, like Germany's. Brilliant striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontermann Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Klose isn't technically a brilliant footballer, but at his prime he was a brilliant striker. Intelligent off-the ball movement, both vertically and laterally, he could assist as well as score. He was tall and powerful, fairly quick as well. But as I said, he is so underrated because his best asset was intelligence and movement, which often goes unnoticed. He can spearhead an attack as a lone forward leading the line, he can play in a more fluid system, like Germany's. Brilliant striker. Exactly. People just judge by the goals but Klose is a complete striker who doesnt score just to score but sees the teammate in the better scoring position and will provide him with the assist which Ronaldo as far as I remember wasnt know for at all. Excellent team player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 nice trolling Whatever makes you happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Klose, like just about any other striker ever, isn't in the same league as Ronaldo. He's a great striker, sure, but a million miles behind Ronaldo in lots of ways, in my opinion. I agree with jmr, here, not one of the all-time greats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontermann Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Clearly one of the world cup all-time greats, you cant take that from a player who scored 5 goals in 3 wc tournaments each. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Oh yeah, I'd definitely agree with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 13, 2014 Author Share Posted June 13, 2014 Oh, I forgot about Bierhoff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Bierhoff, now there's a striker who was easily worse than Klose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 13, 2014 Author Share Posted June 13, 2014 Worse, but he wasn't bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontermann Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Bierhoff, now there's a striker who was easily worse than Klose. Man, we both agree here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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