llama3 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Control strategies have shorter passing already on defend duties. So no, opposite way round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torskus77 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Defensive Mentalities have more direct passing at the back (to get the ball clear from danger) and shorter passing with Attack Duties.Standard is neutral. Attacking sees shorter passing with the Defend Duties and more direct with the Attack Duties. Playmakers are on Mixed passing irrespective of Mentality - until you start layering on TIs and / or PIs. Shorter passing TI doesn't affect a playmakers passing does it ? Retain possession does is that correct ? Also does a TQ playing as a striker count as a Playmaker ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Shorter passing TI doesn't affect a playmakers passing does it ? Retain possession does is that correct ? Playmakers are set to a neutral ("Mixed") passing length irrespective of the Mentality. If you then layer on a PI or TI, it will still affect their passing length. Also does a TQ playing as a striker count as a Playmaker ? Yes. Irrespective of where he plays, a Treq is a Playmaker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleuk8 Posted September 4, 2014 Author Share Posted September 4, 2014 I am conceding to many goals from set pieces, any advice? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleuk8 Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 Here is my new setup, how does it look? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleuk8 Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 My setup for an A/P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 This is from memory, as I can't see the image whilst at work The Duty balance is fine. I'd advise you to watch a match in full just to see how the MC duo move. They may end up exposing the DM a bit, but you just need to see if this is actually an issue. With regard to Team Instructions, I was a bit confused by the use of Play Out Of Defence, given that you will pass short at the back when you use Control Mentality. I'm not sure it's needed. Why did you choose Push Higher Up? Was it based on something you'd seen, was it an attempt to push the line up given the fact that a DM will by default reduce it a bit? All in all, it's a good system on paper. If the MCs function together well then you should get decent support up to the striker. All you need to do now is make the right decisions in matches Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleuk8 Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 This is from memory, as I can't see the image whilst at work The Duty balance is fine. I'd advise you to watch a match in full just to see how the MC duo move. They may end up exposing the DM a bit, but you just need to see if this is actually an issue. With regard to Team Instructions, I was a bit confused by the use of Play Out Of Defence, given that you will pass short at the back when you use Control Mentality. I'm not sure it's needed. Why did you choose Push Higher Up? Was it based on something you'd seen, was it an attempt to push the line up given the fact that a DM will by default reduce it a bit? All in all, it's a good system on paper. If the MCs function together well then you should get decent support up to the striker. All you need to do now is make the right decisions in matches It was advice I'd read from LLAMA's Pair and combination thread. This is for a 4-2-3-1 formation though. I also ask my DM to close down less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleuk8 Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 After taking your advice things were still not clicking. I've decided to start watching games in full match. I'm using my 4-1-4-1 formation. I am trying to create a possession tactic so my base instruction are these: Strategy- Control Shorter Passing Work ball into box Play out of defence-advice from LLAMA'S thread. Push higher up. I was playing Newcastle in the EPL. They were playing 4-2-3-1 formation. I asked my wide men to mark there's. I also asked my DMC to mark there AMC. First thing I noticed was my DMC was dropping back into the back line a lot. Could this be because I have asked him to man mark there AMC? The DC's were pushing up to close to the DMC there were almost on top of him, I dropped the Push up shout. is this the right thinking? My left WB-Attack was playing some very odd long balls? He was almost rushing it, I ask him to pass shorter. My right sided winger-Attack, was making some poor short passes forward, I asked him to be more direct, again is this the right thinking? Odd question: Where should I expect my DMC and MC's to be in this set-up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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