arsenal12 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 What's wrong with the scouting after a few years? I'm in 2026, signed a 4 star ranked player(just scouted him), when he comes to my team they rank him 2.5 stars? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamillePunk Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Who's "they"? If you're looking at your assistant report then your scouts and assistant manager have different JA/JP attributes. Your assman's probably worse at judging players and is underrating him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggiotis Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 it depends from the ability of your scout and its relative to the players you already have, so if you manage Real its compared to Christiano..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aderow Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Or the scout was overrating him. But yeah what CamillePunk said; it's all dependent on how good the person, who's player reports you read, is at evaluating a player's abilities. It's the reason why I always get an assistant with decent JPA/JPP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal12 Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 I don't know which scout who scouted him but he got 4 stars from the scouting report. I tried changing assistant manager now to one with 18 in judging potential, all my scouts have at least 18 in judging potential. Still he says 2.5 stars.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggiotis Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 what team you manage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 More suited to general discussion. This is neither tactics nor training. Moving the thread. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc1 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Are you not mistaking his actual ability to his potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I don't know which scout who scouted him but he got 4 stars from the scouting report. I tried changing assistant manager now to one with 18 in judging potential, all my scouts have at least 18 in judging potential. Still he says 2.5 stars.. Your team probably improved since you scouted him mixed in with some error in judgment by scout or AM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggiotis Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 what team you manage ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blast126 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Football Manager 15?, what was the knowledge % of player by your scouts?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aderow Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Your team probably improved since you scouted him mixed in with some error in judgment by scout or AM. Yep. I always scout a player again depending on how old my previous scout report is on him. Also I want to point out that JPA is as important as the JPP attribute because a scouts determination of where a player is now will have influence on where he could realistically end up. So it's good to consider how good your coach/assistant/scout is at determining how good a player is now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy316 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Had this loads obviously you scout a player and it rates him 4 or higher stars thats your scouts opinion. So you think wow i have to sign this guy, and you sign him (normally for an exhiborant fee!) Thing is that now your coaches are rating him rather than your scouts and you get to see a raft of other things i dont think your scouts report on (e.g. how he is in training, attitude) so your coaches naturally star him different. Thats why i think the star rating is flawed, also players i have signed have under performed badly which kicks that rating down further. I have defenders who have high anticipation who i just think cant read the game at all and make ridiculous errors which lead to conceded goals, strikers who have high finishing and composure who cant hit the target and midfielders with high passing stats but every pass the make is to the feet of the opposition. These are players i scout extensivley getting the opinion of 3-4 of my best scouts so i sign and they get to my club and underperform. Then i sign some players who are decidedly average stats but play out of there skin every game. Its just another one of those crazy FM things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleaner475 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Had this loads obviously you scout a player and it rates him 4 or higher stars thats your scouts opinion. So you think wow i have to sign this guy, and you sign him (normally for an exhiborant fee!) Thing is that now your coaches are rating him rather than your scouts and you get to see a raft of other things i dont think your scouts report on (e.g. how he is in training, attitude) so your coaches naturally star him different. Thats why i think the star rating is flawed, also players i have signed have under performed badly which kicks that rating down further. I have defenders who have high anticipation who i just think cant read the game at all and make ridiculous errors which lead to conceded goals, strikers who have high finishing and composure who cant hit the target and midfielders with high passing stats but every pass the make is to the feet of the opposition. These are players i scout extensivley getting the opinion of 3-4 of my best scouts so i sign and they get to my club and underperform. Then i sign some players who are decidedly average stats but play out of there skin every game. Its just another one of those crazy FM things Star ratings are only meant to be used as a rough guide. You should check their stats to see if they're good enough for your first team, not their star rating. For example defenders with low a concentration stat are highly prone to making errors, while defenders with a low positioning stat are never going to get into the right places to stop goals in the first place I always have a sort of rule on signing players for certain positions; for example for a defender I want to make sure they have a high tackling, marking, heading, jumping, positioning and concentration stats while also taking their height into account. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomit Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Are you quite sure that you're not mixing your scouts' rating for potential with your ass.man's judging of current ability? Very possible to have a 4 star potential but only a 2.5 star current ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersk Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I always have a sort of rule on signing players for certain positions; for example for a defender I want to make sure they have a high tackling, marking, heading, jumping, positioning and concentration stats while also taking their height into account. Height doesn't really matter. Height only helps with getting high up to win the ball, which is reflected in the jumping attribute. So you can basically ignore their height and focus solely on their jumping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneronaldo Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Height doesn't really matter. Height only helps with getting high up to win the ball, which is reflected in the jumping attribute. So you can basically ignore their height and focus solely on their jumping. You still won't fancy a 5'5" midget trying to win a header from say a Vincent Kompany now would you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersk Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 You still won't fancy a 5'5" midget trying to win a header from say a Vincent Kompany now would you? If his height is so low, that will be reflected in the jumping attribute, which was my entire point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriss Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Didn't take long to go off topic OP's question answered anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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