Lodderup Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Hey guys. I was just wondering: When a controversial penalty has been given in a match, often you get some questions about it in the press afterwards. To evaluate if the penalty was a fair call by the ref, you can view the incident. But, why? The game graphics and the "stickman" walking players only show a defender next to an attacker, sometimes with interactions, sometimes without. How are anybody able to judge whether or not the call was right, with the graphics? The brings me to the final question: Why make it such a big deal often in the press meeting post-match, when it's impossible to call or not. Why? Maybe it's just me or my missing ability to notice details. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herolover Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 If you look at the end of match analysis for the referee it will make comments on whether he had a good game or whether, "he has some answering to do." I always use that as my key, but really if you think about it the fact the press are even asking the question means that there was a question about the call. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isignedupfornorealreason Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 If you look at the end of match analysis for the referee it will make comments on whether he had a good game or whether, "he has some answering to do."I always use that as my key, but really if you think about it the fact the press are even asking the question means that there was a question about the call. Nah, sometimes the press get it wrong, so if you go by the press reaction you can be wrong too. I've always saved the game before answer it, I'll criticise and if I'm wrong I'll reload to save the touchline ban, primarily on the reasons I can't possibly say whether it's an error or not. I don't reload any where I'm genuinely pissed off though(!) I've sometimes absolutely flipped out at a penalty decision and blamed the ref just to deflect attention from the players, but other than that I can't say it's a worthwhile feature. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Flash Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 And if you criticised the ref and the ref was right you're in trouble; if the ref was wrong you aren't. That makes no sense. Either criticising refs is acceptable or it isn't. Whether the ref's decision turned out to be correct or not is neither here nor there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisQ Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yeah, other than offside calls, it's impossible to tell. I especially like it when I'm asked to review an alleged incidence of holding in the box. How the hell do I know! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
louissiscool Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 It has been like this for years it would be nice if something in the commentary told us for sure rather then leaving it to guess work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieu Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 It's not guess work. If you check in the "Referee" section in the game summary it will always show if the ref made a mistake or not. You don't even have to watch the incident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isignedupfornorealreason Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 It's not guess work. If you check in the "Referee" section in the game summary it will always show if the ref made a mistake or not. You don't even have to watch the incident. That doesn't necessarily mean that the incident in question was the mistake though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieu Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Well I have always used that as a guideline, and so far it has never been wrong. That does of course not mean that it can never be wrong. Just that I have never seen it. Also sometimes it will say exactly what the mistake was. It will say something like "The ref made a mistake disallowing so and so goal when it really should have stood." And if it says that the ref had an excellent game and you get a question asking about a decision you can be pretty sure that the decision was correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I always appeal the ban. If the appeal fails you can still discipline the player for the sending off. Usually it will say the sending off was harsh if it was an incorrect call, usually the best time to appeal it. Most of the time the appeal fails. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
louissiscool Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 It's not guess work. If you check in the "Referee" section in the game summary it will always show if the ref made a mistake or not. You don't even have to watch the incident. It is guess work recently on my Stutgart save i had my center back Rudiger sent off it send the sending off was harsh and i checked the referees rating for the game and he got a 3 i appealed against the ban and the FA upheld it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeDub Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I still don't think questioning a call should be bannable. It's only questioning the motives of a referee (e.g. implying bias) that seems to bring the FA down on a manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr1nie Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I'm pretty sure the match commentary has some lines like "it does look dubious!" or something which usually indicate that the referee's decision was a mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavo01 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I've had one of these scenarios as recently as this morning. My CD got a straight red 5 minutes from time. When the decision was brought up by the press, a sentence underneath informed me that my Assistant Manager thought it was a professional foul and therefore not to appeal against it. So I didn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.ronaldo7 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I generally always appeal as it became a habit on previous versions when fines and bans weren't possible. Needless to say I love a good touchline ban Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigod Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Think its hard in 3D, what about before 3D was introduced? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Interesting question. Always wondered the same. Maybe it would be better to replace the "view incident" sequence with testimonials from the players and the ref. ("I am sorry, I did not mean to hit him" / "We all know that Franz is a brutal player!!", etc.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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