Andrew_ Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 It's been a few weeks. Hardly a reputation. Mata is around anyways. It's just so annoying. Some pace and attacking threat from Pedro yesterday and who knows, we probably would have won. Much better choice than Young/Adnan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 It's been a few weeks. Hardly a reputation. Mata is around anyways. But it is very current. What is story with Rojo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 It's been a few weeks. Hardly a reputation. Mata is around anyways.It's just so annoying. Some pace and attacking threat from Pedro yesterday and who knows, we probably would have won. Much better choice than Young/Adnan. I can imagine Pedro is quite close to Valdes, who won't exactly give a glowing report on the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Fair enough . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I can imagine Pedro is quite close to Valdes, who won't exactly give a glowing report on the manager. What makes you say that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I still don't get that situation, LVG was happy to play him in the last game of the season but then changes his mind over the summer? Doesn't even get a club suit ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roseboy64 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 It's been a few weeks. Hardly a reputation. Mata is around anyways.It's just so annoying. Some pace and attacking threat from Pedro yesterday and who knows, we probably would have won. Much better choice than Young/Adnan. Not fit.Nothing malicious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roseboy64 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I still don't get that situation, LVG was happy to play him in the last game of the season but then changes his mind over the summer?Doesn't even get a club suit ffs. Seems like he compromised then because he didn't have faith in Lindegaard or Lindegaard wasn't fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Not giving him a club suit is an embarrassment. LVG a right ****. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pago Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 It's not like Pedro turned us down. We didn't want to buy him which is clearly LVG's choice. Just because he's played well for Chelsea today it doesn't necessarily mean we have made a mistake. We don't know if there is someone else lined up so Its probably best to wait until window shuts before judging how well we have done and if we've got what we needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 What are we waiting for? Points are being dropped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roseboy64 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Points will always be dropped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Pedro is exactly what Man United needs , especially since Di Maria's fecked them over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Points will always be dropped. It's different when the window is open and we could have brought in a player that could have changed that on Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 We should have won with the players we had on Saturday. Period. Starting with Chicha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Well clearly we're missing something and have been for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 LvG getting a pass on Pedro error I see. Ed to blame this time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Well clearly we're missing something and have been for a while. From what I see it is that final ball. It just doesn't make it to an open player. But that also says our movement isn't right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 We're missing directness, too much slow, possession play which let's the opposition ease back into position. It's the tactics as much as lack of quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Don't worry lads, we're getting Bale AND Neymar... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxToBox Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Don't worry lads, we're getting Bale AND Neymar... I can't wait to see which one is benched for Young. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham_aka_stam Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 All the faffing about is doing my head in. We smashed Newcastle in the first 20mins, including a goal that should have been allowed. Then it just dried up until Mata's cack volley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshotbg Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Mane injured now, hopefully it stops the "news" a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 LvG getting a pass on Pedro error I see. Ed to blame this time weird since van gaal himself said he didn't want him in the end and that the money wasn't an issue because they knew the clause all along. the fans are already booing his style of play so he better sign someone with a bit of pace and directness otherwise it'll only get worse. not replacing rooney will probably cost him his job anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I guess the good thing about our past 2 managers is expectations will be fairly re-adjusted by our next appointment and we won't get too much baying for blood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I'm not sure if Pedro turned us down or not. I'm pretty sure that if we really wanted him we could have paid the release clause and got him in july. When Chelsea came knocking then it is a no brainer for the player since the choice to play for either LVG or Mourinho. There really is no comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 How can that be true? He's not had more than one shot on target in a game in 17 years?? He's scored more than 1 goal in games so that would be 2 shots on target. I am missing a zinger here? (possible) This has actually made my day in a massive way, thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I can't wait to see which one is benched for Young. The other will be benched for Valencia and the circle is complete.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Why are players like Pedro/Otamendi not good enough for us/not what we need, yet are perfectly fine for the 2 teams going for the title? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Why are players like Pedro/Otamendi not good enough for us/not what we need, yet are perfectly fine for the 2 teams going for the title? LVG is the reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Why are players like Pedro/Otamendi not good enough for us/not what we need, yet are perfectly fine for the 2 teams going for the title? Can't wait to see the quality youngsters we've got coming thro...oh! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 We will likely loan Januzaj, Jesse and Pereira too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 This has actually made my day in a massive way, thanks You're welcome I got lost in all your Rooney negativity in here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roseboy64 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Why are players like Pedro/Otamendi not good enough for us/not what we need, yet are perfectly fine for the 2 teams going for the title? Who said they weren't good enough? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 LvG innit They move about too much, he likes those standy still type players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 There's a bright side, 3 clean sheets in a row. David De Whoea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I just want a good striker is that too much to ask? I'm gonna go with "yes" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 the defence is fine and that is a good thing, solid foundations and all that. the problem is we don't need two midfielders who do the same thing in every single game (carrick & schneiderlin) at the expense of someone like herrera who takes chances and makes things happen. i guess schneiderlin & schweinsteiger is an improvement on that, if that's what we're moving towards as it seems, but we still need to be taking more risks from midfield. mata coming inside is fine and i don't have a problem with him, since darmian gets up and down on the outside, but the guy playing in the 10 role needs to be quicker than januzaj in general and, again, take more risks when playing the ball. if we're not going to play herrera i think we should put memphis back there and play young/januzaj/pereira/new winger on the left. or even play schneiderlin-herrera-schweinsteiger, though van gaal seems reluctant to play 4-3-3 or herrera for some reason. on top of all this we need everything i've already mentioned from our main striker as well, otherwise we'll just carry on looking too flat and rigid in attack, unable to score anywhere near enough goals to win anything. but the only likely thing i can think of van gaal doing, if anything at all, at an absolute push, is play rooney off hernandez/new striker with memphis on the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 or play fellaini as a 10 and become more direct by default, my favourite theory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoldeFK15 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Can foresee us wasting 30m upward on Kane in a reactionary purchase similar to Wenger's spend spend after the 8-2. Unfortuantely, Benzema aside, there seems to be a dearth of top strikers compared to 10-15 years ago. Would rather punt on Wilson all season as opposed to bidding on a one season wonder who would likely cost £40m+. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 We will likely loan Januzaj, Jesse and Pereira too I'd imagine Lingard will be sold. the defence is fine and that is a good thing, solid foundations and all that. the problem is we don't need two midfielders who do the same thing in every single game (carrick & schneiderlin) at the expense of someone like herrera who takes chances and makes things happen. i guess schneiderlin & schweinsteiger is an improvement on that, if that's what we're moving towards as it seems, but we still need to be taking more risks from midfield. mata coming inside is fine and i don't have a problem with him, since darmian gets up and down on the outside, but the guy playing in the 10 role needs to be quicker than januzaj in general and, again, take more risks when playing the ball. if we're not going to play herrera i think we should put memphis back there and play young/januzaj/pereira/new winger on the left. or even play schneiderlin-herrera-schweinsteiger, though van gaal seems reluctant to play 4-3-3 or herrera for some reason. Therein lies the problem I'm fine with Mata coming inside in terms of Mata in isolation; the problem is that when there's not enough going on around him everything is too predictable. He's always going to cut in and he's always going to operate in front of the defence. Good as Darmian has been thus far he's not enough of a danger to cause sufficient concern for the defence. As such a lot of our better work has come down the left and it's a bit predictable. If we had Mata in the middle he'd have more passing angles available, and with Januzaj or whoever on the right we'd have two wingers who can go either way and have sufficient pace to ask questions of the defence. Playing Memphis in the middle seems to starve him of the space he needs to operate effectively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Kane would be a fantastic buy This thread acts like SAF bought every player he or the fans wanted and never let one get away. Could fill a worlds 11 with his missed targets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I'd be delighted if United waste crazy money on Harry Kane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Kane with no service is the same as Rooney with no service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Was it even a whole season? Got found out towards the end... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Kane would at least get involved in play, but like I said. He's had one great season, there's a lot of risk involved.I never thought I'd say this, but we need Ibrahimovic... There's never a time when you don't need Zlatan in your life and in your team. Never. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I just want a half decent manager. Sacking LVG would mean much more than getting any player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I don't even Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom14 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Deary me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Anyone who thinks LVG is the right man is seriously diluded. We have the worst manager in the top 6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.