Icelander83 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Liverpool not top 6 \o/ I like that line of thinking, for what it's worth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I'd rather have Giggs in charge than LVG LVG managed to get Bayern to finish 3rd in the Bundesliga before he got sacked there. He was probably happy with that as he was with the diabolical performance on Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Have you actually already reached the stage where you've become a parody of yourself? Shame, was hoping you'd save that for the second half of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 It's like Superman's arch nemesis. Where is he these days? Haven't seen these two in the same place..t the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 United turning down Mourinho for Moyes/LVG in football terms is like a single man turning down a Victoria Secret supermodel for a fat 20 stone whale in real life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 You've got 7 from 9 ffs, jesus you really are the anti-superman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I see we have jumped into the deep end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 You've got 7 from 9 ffs, jesus you really are the anti-superman I long laughed at the Arsenal thread for having Sy and to a lesser extent, ajw. Can't help but feel Sid1984 is karmic retribution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Blind at the back is helping smalling apparantly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 You've got 7 from 9 ffs, jesus you really are the anti-superman 1 from the last 3. You don't win titles if you only get 33% of the points on offer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 It's not like Pedro turned us down. Do you honestly believe that? Anything I've read or heard has been the total opposite of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 we have been offered Pato for £11m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Oh god... It's come to this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I'm fine with Mata coming inside in terms of Mata in isolation; the problem is that when there's not enough going on around him everything is too predictable. He's always going to cut in and he's always going to operate in front of the defence. Good as Darmian has been thus far he's not enough of a danger to cause sufficient concern for the defence. As such a lot of our better work has come down the left and it's a bit predictable. If we had Mata in the middle he'd have more passing angles available, and with Januzaj or whoever on the right we'd have two wingers who can go either way and have sufficient pace to ask questions of the defence. Playing Memphis in the middle seems to starve him of the space he needs to operate effectively. oh yeah mata in the middle would be even better, there's no real benefit to playing him wider instead. it seems the obvious answer in fact. he'd probably start playing out of his skin as i'm sure david silva will keep doing now he's been moved inside. but as you say it's ultimately a lack of movement and speed around him, he can't do everything on his own because he lacks the pace to drive through people like memphis for example can from, well, anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 United turning down Mourinho for Moyes/LVG in football terms is like a single man turning down a Victoria Secret supermodel for a fat 20 stone whale in real life. You've got 7 from 9 ffs, jesus you really are the anti-superman They have been totally unconvincing though and I think you will see a lot of United's flaws when they play better teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Yet we played our best football last season against the other top teams in the league.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I'd rather have Giggs in charge than LVG Haha, Giggs Get Ole Solkjaer back, he's bound to be a great manager cause you like him I'll say with a degree of confidence that I don't think Giggs will ever get the United job, as in be appointed United manager not filling in for a few games like before (he was great then, wasn't he) United are now on this cycle that all the mega clubs are on of bringing a manager in to get results and being shipped out in 2-4 years depending on the level of that success. Giggs is not gonna fit into that Can kiss 'youth coming through' goodbye as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 So much hate for United, Razzle. Is it Neymar contract renewal time already? Feels like he just signed for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Seriously? That's not hate at all! Hope you do well in Europe but the Giggs for Manager love is stupid (I realise it's Sid). He has done nothing to really demonstrate he'd be any kind of good manager and these days United will not be the place for him to get his training wheels With the money being chucked around and inevitable revolving door of managers on the horizon no manager will care about youth. It'll be like Chelsea, no path to the first team, the odd one may appear and disappear but that can't be the empthasis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Why do we need to spend 40 mill odd on Kane when there is a ex striker of ours who has no club in Berbatov Surely gotta be better than Rooney currently, wou;ld actually stay as the lone striker, albeit more from lazyness to move but still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 LvG's tactics are weird. We went for it in the first 20 minutes, then had a load of boring football until the last 20 minutes when we went for it again. If we don't get an early goal he just tries to shut up shop and nick a 1-0, it's quite baffling. Has he always been like that? We were unlucky not to win on Saturday though, Rooney's goal should have stood, Hernandez should have scored and Smalling was unlucky. Would have been 2 or 3-0 on another day. I like playing Januzaj and think he can be a good player for us but we would have won that game easily if we had Pedro on the wing instead of him. It makes it even weirder to think that we didn't go all out to get him, especially when we were so close to making a deal. On the Giggs comments, he must be embarrassed to be associated with this football at the moment, wouldn't surprise me if he left at the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 We were unlucky not to win on Saturday though, Rooney's goal should have stood No it shouldn't have. Howard Webb in his little truck proved it was the correct decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Since the City game last season we've only scored 5 League goals. 5 league goals in 9 games really isn't very good, is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Since the City game last season we've only scored 5 League goals.5 league goals in 9 games really isn't very good, is it? Been tight at the back though..that's all that matters! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Don't worry folks, come the end of the window our lineup will be de Gea Darmian Smalling Blind Shaw Herrera Schneiderlin Neymar Mata Bale Muller League is ours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Nah, he won't start Herrera Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 No it shouldn't have.Howard Webb in his little truck proved it was the correct decision. Really? What did he say that proves it's the correct decision? All I've seen is a picture showing him in line with the defender. There are more than 2 teams in a football match. Newcastle adapted and then got tired at the end. We "went for it" because those were the periods when Newcastle played badly. More than 2 teams in a football match?! Our football completely changed, it must have come from the manager. I like LvG but the team needs to start performing as they should. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2015/Aug/Memphis-Depay-says-he-is-learning-from-Wayne-Rooney.aspx Explains why he was so **** at the weekend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 It did, Pardew. The problem was our football *didn't* change when Newcastle's did. I do get the impression that all LVG's subs are preplanned and not in relation to what's happening on the pitch.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Then you must have been very selective, because even his agent basically said we dicked around for too long and blew it. Damnit Ed. Put it in the hole and start pumping Since the City game last season we've only scored 5 League goals.5 league goals in 9 games really isn't very good, is it? 5 league goals in 5 months is dire tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I wouldn't care if it was 5 games over 5 years, the fact remains - we're not scoring or creating clear chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 We blatently changed formation when Carrick came on. That's why we played better. The worrying thing is we looked far from sharp when we were dominating in the last 20 minutes of the game with lots of missed passes and players losing the ball. I will withhold ultimate judgement on LvG until 10 games in and his style of football might suit European football but I'm starting to think the guy is senile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Can we rename this the Arsenal United 2015/16 thread? It's the spiritual successor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Reading the comments on here (mine included), this quote is quite apt: "Louis van Gaal has been a very good coach in many clubs but his style is very difficult. He is very tough, people don't like him, but he wins. And one day you don't win - and when you don't win, everybody that is angry with you will come back to you and try to kill you." Ferran Soriano, LVG's vice president at Barcelona Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 C Don't worry folks, come the end of the window our lineup will bede Gea Darmian Smalling Blind Shaw Herrera Schneiderlin Neymar Mata Bale Muller League is ours. No Valencia? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 We blatently changed formation when Carrick came on. That's why we played better. The worrying thing is we looked far from sharp when we were dominating in the last 20 minutes of the game with lots of missed passes and players losing the ball. I will withhold ultimate judgement on LvG until 10 games in and his style of football might suit European football but I'm starting to think the guy is senile. we didn't change formation at all, it was still the same 4-2-3-1. personnel is the main reason we played better: carrick actually passed forward instead of sideways, and hernandez actually got involved and made some runs, creating a bit more space for memphis and mata around him. 9 times out of 10 hernandez puts that chance he had into the back of the net. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 in fact here's the difference hernandez makes: https://youtu.be/vElN9W7eDP0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
managerdude_66 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Don't worry folks, come the end of the window our lineup will bede Gea Neymar Smalling Blind Bale Rooney Schneiderlin Valencia Mata Young Muller League is ours. CNo Valencia? Fixed that for ya Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Just remembered, Adnan dives all the ****ing time. Chicha should start. He scores goals and creates problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akura Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I have rooney in my fantasy team, too scared to take him out because I know as soon as I do he'll go on a scoring run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Button Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I have rooney in my fantasy team, too scared to take him out because I know as soon as I do he'll go on a scoring run. Then please take him out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 So apparently after faffing about splitting hairs over a €30m deal for Pedro, we've only gone and offered ONEHUNDREDFORTYMILLIONPOUNDSSTERLING for Neymar Suuuuuuuuuure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 yes take him out so I get more fantasy points as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 £140m? Globo either pulling numbers out of their arse, or they've got somebody from Neymar's team briefing them in an attempt to force a bid. Either way it's clearly nonsense on United's side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 why would you bid £140m on a player who has a Buyout clause of only £132.4m? unless you are David Moyes >.> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 why would you bid £140m on a player who has a Buyout clause of only £132.4m?unless you are David Moyes >.> Maybe because they understand how buyout clauses work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 really? because Pedro had one and we bid under it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 And where is Pedro? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 at Chelsea... because we didn't pay the asking price... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Well, asking prices and buyout clauses arnt the same thing. Without getting into the legitimacy of the Neymar story his buyout clause isn't a case of Man Utd offering whatever it happens to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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