Pangaea Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Oh my, I missed that. Brilliant! At what point in match? A steward chased after a fan that got on the pitch (from what I read), didn't handle the wet surface too well.... At the end there was an announcement that the United fans had to leave to catch the last train. "We're Man United, we do what we want" Just brilliant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Wouldn't be the easiest draw from pot 1, but I'd like to get Juventus. Evra to get a hero's return (and possibly jeers for Pogba?) In term of just getting through easy, something like PSV, Olympiakos, Malmö would be nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 So it would seem Valdes is a tad bitter about his exit, wishing City the best of luck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 link iceman, link! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 There's no link, the Iceman has been had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I'm surprised Blind's transformation into an Amish man hasn't been talked about yet... That beard..! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Apparently Tom"thespoilsport"tuck is claiming it's not real Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 There's no link, the Iceman has been had. It's my damn fault for trusting darren Should know better but somehow I let my guard down for a second because it was so damn amusing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 It's my damn fault for trusting darren Should know better but somehow I let my guard down for a second because it was so damn amusing Should stick to amusingly enlightening chats with me rather than listening to Darren.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Should stick to amusingly enlightening chats with me rather than listening to Darren.... True enough, I've learned a lot about teen culture in the UK recently thanks to you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I'm surprised Blind's transformation into an Amish man hasn't been talked about yet...That beard..! I've noticed, kind of hard not to, though I've looked more at the weird hair. Has he lost a bet with evil friends? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Shaw is going to be the best left back in the world I am sure. He is a tremendous defender, doesn't get beat every often at all and then on top of that has an absolutely great engine with technical ability. If he watches his fitness he will only get better. He may even become an attacking player like Bale did. Herrera has to play as a 10. He's just a very good, intelligent player with the right attributes for the role. He will get 10+goals there and as many assists given a starting place. Im not as convinced by him in a 2 man deep midfield. makes so much difference having a pair of full-backs as good as shaw (20) and darmian (25) who both have great room for improvement at those ages. as for herrera, surely only a matter of time before van gaal realises playing him in front of schweinsteiger and schneiderlin is our most effective midfield. he's so good at running from slightly deeper INTO that 10 role/area and then taking risks, as opposed to januzaj who stands too far forward with his back to goal too much, and then takes too long to decide what to do/gets knocked over anyway. he needs to be playing out wide and running at people from that space outside to be most effective. unfortunately for him memphis has that role secured now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 True enough, I've learned a lot about teen culture in the UK recently thanks to you Glad to be of service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Have the Gizzy's taken over the thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
managerdude_66 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 PSV, CSKA Moskva and Wolfsburg in our group (B). Should get out of the group. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I wouldn't say that is the easiest group but it could be worse. Those Wolfsburg matches will be very interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
managerdude_66 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I wouldn't say that is the easiest group but it could be worse. Those Wolfsburg matches will be very interesting. Exactly what I was thinking. Although the loss of de Bruyne should be a big blow to them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Could definitely be harder - but also easier. Pleased with PSV from pot 1 - many potential banana skins there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 That's about as easy as it comes. Brilliant, just read some tweets insinuating we have the hardest group Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 We should be winning that group, not too bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxToBox Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Grand draw, that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Just a friendly reminder that SAF probably wasn't human. Is this from when we played 3-4-3 against Wolfsburg and Owen got a hat trick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 It is indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 Moscow away before City at home. Is this from when we played 3-4-3 against Wolfsburg and Owen got a hat trick? It is, I was there that game. Mad that the game this year will be on exactly the same date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Great draw there, also great to see arsenal and city get tough draws. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Arsenal's draw is easy, so I expect them to make hard work of it. I think both City and United will struggle; I don't think your group is anywhere near as easy as some of you seem to believe. Chelsea will be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Draw could have been both a lot worse and a lot easier. All are teams that are capable of getting something if they bring their best, but on the other hand we should expect to beat them all and win the group. Pot 1. We got PSV where as we could have got Barcelona or Bayern which would have been utterly horrible, PSG wouldn't have been ideal. Couldn't have been much better than PSV, Benfica and Zenit probably not much better so can't argue with our Pot 1 opponent. Pot 3. Moscow not the best for the trip but looking at the 8 options in that group there isn't much to choose between them at first glance. Happy to avoid Lyon, Roma and Sevilla. Pot 4. One of the tougher teams we could have had, would probably have wanted them least though their far worse options in terms of travel in that pot. That all said, we should really win the group, and to not qualify at all would be unforgivable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Pot 1 was very kind, pot 3 was fairly kind and we got the hardest team from pot 4. But I'd rather get the hardest team from pot 4 than the hardest from pot 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Arsenal's draw is easy, so I expect them to make hard work of it. I think both City and United will struggle; I don't think your group is anywhere near as easy as some of you seem to believe. Chelsea will be fine. Arsenal draw is not easy. Bayern for a start are a class above but what you have to remember is Arsenal play Bayern 3rd and 4th game. They lose those 2 and suddenly they may be behind Olympiakos who they then have to travel to in gameweek 5. Going to Greece is not easy. Just look at Olympiakos last season. Beat Atletico and Juve at home IIRC and have beaten Arsenal not too long ago as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 So October might be a little tough... Arsenal (A) - Oct 4 Everton (A) - Oct 17 CSKA Moscow (A) - Oct 21 City (H) - Oct 25 C.Palace (A) - Oct 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 12 league points and 3 champions league points there all 1-0 wins of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham_aka_stam Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 LVG on Herrera "I had a theoretical scheme in my head that he could play at no.10 and he did it well against Brugge." No **** Sherlock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdevil Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Well it was a **** team we were playing, I expect any footballer in the squad to be able to play at no.10 against them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham_aka_stam Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 As Herrera said himself, it's a lot easier playing at 10 vs a team who are attacking you than it is against one sitting back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pago Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Evans off to west brom for 6m plus 2m in add ons. Seems a fair price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Sounds like a poor price to me, but that's common when we sell anybody not named Ronaldo. A bit sorry to see him go, if this proves correct, but the writing has been on the wall for some time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Be a shame to see Evans go, one of our best players for 2/3 seasons in a row before the past couple but seems to be one of those anomalies where a player can thrive under one manager/strategy and completely fall apart under another. I'd say £6m with potential to rise to £8m for a defender who has played 17/14 league games in the past 2 seasons - and has in fact over the past 7 full seasons played 17, 18, 13, 29, 23, 17, 14; so only once really hit what you'd like to see as a minimum for a starting CB - is pretty good. Will always be a player I remember fondly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Probably worth to keep in mind we had Rio and Vidic at their peak for most of those years, so it was always unlikely for Evans to rack up 30+ games routinely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 plus his overall appearance record isn't that bad, before van gaal he'd averaged 30 games a season in all comps since 2008. he was also our best defender from like 2011-2013. will be a good signing for west brom once he gets playing again and regains confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerokus Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 We (Celtic) are apparently signing Tyler Blackett from you on loan. I assume he's crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 We (Celtic) are apparently signing Tyler Blackett from you on loan. I assume he's crap. He's not crap, but I don't think he has enough in his game for a career in United either. A bit odd if he is shipped out too, when Evans appears to be leaving. Blackett can play both CB and LB, and it's always nice to have versatile backup players. Getting into that hectic period now, and I expect more incoming and outgoing in United. Some are bound to go on loan, and I do wonder what happens to McNair, Pereira and Wilson. All are near the first team, but not quite there yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerokus Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Yeah left back is a position where we need more competition for our starting player, and we're about to sell our only good centre back so he would fit in well there if we have injuries or something. Seems like an odd one from our perspective too, though, as we don't need him domestically and I suspect he would only be extra depth, certainly not likely to help us much in the Europa league. Our Chief Exec's son works in the scouting department for your city rivals which is probably why we seem to love signing youth players from or former targets of Manchester clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Aw man, I like Blackett, too. Don't necessarily think he is going to be great or anything but saw enough in him to think that he could potentially become very good. Bloody hell, LVG, we need more defenders, not less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 He's not crap, but I don't think he has enough in his game for a career in United either. A bit odd if he is shipped out too, when Evans appears to be leaving. Blackett can play both CB and LB, and it's always nice to have versatile backup players.Getting into that hectic period now, and I expect more incoming and outgoing in United. Some are bound to go on loan, and I do wonder what happens to McNair, Pereira and Wilson. All are near the first team, but not quite there yet. Wilson has to be a better option than Chicha after the other night. LVG seemed to rate McNair quite highly so would expect him to stay as cover at CB. Pereira will go on loan I'm sure. What about Lingard, can't see any place for him at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Wilson is not a better option than Chicha. Chicha will win us a whole lot of points this season... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 losing evans and blackett makes no difference to the squad anyway, and doesn't leave us short. smalling, rojo, blind, jones and mcnair for cover is enough. i expect we're still in the market for a top CB, but i don't expect one this window. i guess that situation comes down to the right top quality person being available more than a pressing need to bring someone in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 A lot of chatter that we're in discussions with PSG for Lucas Moura... take that for what you will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 A lot of chatter that we're in discussions with PSG for Lucas Moura... take that for what you will. So we intend to hand them back the Di Maria fee plus 10% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 We've got enough cover at the back to allow Blackett to go out on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Sounds like a poor price to me, but that's common when we sell anybody not named Ronaldo.A bit sorry to see him go, if this proves correct, but the writing has been on the wall for some time. Who in their right mind would pay more for him though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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