Indiana Jones Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 with the signings of gokhan inler, xherdan shaqiri, andre ayew, salomon rondon, etc, it is obvious that the new TV cash is making it easier for mid-level premiership teams to sign stars. I sincerely hope this is reflected in FM16! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 If it isn't, I'm sure a rep boost would achieve the same effect unless mechanics are changed behind the scenes. Just going to make the Premier League more boring to be in anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 The new TV deal is included in FM15 & as irl if you throw enough money at the deal you can sign some very good players at mid level PL clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 it is obvious that the new TV cash is making it easier for mid-level premiership teams to sign stars. How is it obvious? Hardly breaking the bank with spending, what it really shows is that the top teams are packed to the rafters with talent and they can't sign every single good player that's out there. There's different classes of players World Class Top Top Players Really Good Players that would be a blessing to any team Really Good Players that any team would like to have Really Good Players that any team would like to have for cover Really Good Players Lower league players (the list goes on) It's the Really Good Players category that are moving clubs because A) The talent where they are is too good and they won't get a game where they are B) They can get similar money plus a signing on fee and loyalty bonus at a new club C) They are guaranteed more football with an International European Cup next year and another World Cup beckons in 3 years time D) They want to make a mark on football and hoepfully be picked up by a big club in the next few years. I think young footballers have a very good head on their shoulders, and they are looking to get the money that's already in football, how do you get a raise, how do you get more money? You move clubs. It's not like years ago where you stay at a club for 20 years, like Giggs, Scholes, Gerrard, Terry and others - I think that era is dying. Sterling moved to Man City because they were a "bigger club" - which isn't strictly true as they have not got the same history as LFC. But they are bigger club with the money that's there and the players they currently have - what have they won though in Europe? Nowt. Just as much as LFC has in the recent years. What happens when the money goes dry at City? When the shieks pull out? I just think young players in the real game are playing smart and moving clubs for a wage hike and loyalty bonus and a signing on fee, as they know they can retire early 30's. And what young man these days wouldn't set their sites on retiring that early? ----End Rant--- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 The TV money definitely makes the EPL easier, I'v ejust left Arsenal after 6 years of success where my transfer budget was ~£400m each year. I'm now at Real (Richest club in the world IRL according to Forbes (I think)) and my transfer budget is £50m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marabak Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 The TV money definitely makes the EPL easier Easier compared to what? I can see that it would be easier with regards to European competitions maybe (although there is still a limit on how many players you can put on a pitch). But within itself, surely it must get harder. All the teams strengthen and the gap between rich and less rich becomes less (although it becomes greater to the poor). When the likes of West Brom and Crystal Palace can buy players who were more likely to go to a top 6 team a few years ago, this evens the playing a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiiing Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Easier compared to what? I can see that it would be easier with regards to European competitions maybe (although there is still a limit on how many players you can put on a pitch). But within itself, surely it must get harder. All the teams strengthen and the gap between rich and less rich becomes less (although it becomes greater to the poor). When the likes of West Brom and Crystal Palace can buy players who were more likely to go to a top 6 team a few years ago, this evens the playing a lot. I don't see it makes much difference, except to promoted clubs. Even if club X has the money to "buy players who were more likely to go to a top 6 team a few years ago", so do all the other teams in the league (with the exception of the newcomers, unless they're backed by a Sugar Daddy, and teams re-entering the PL after having been relegated), so X isn't in any better position in relation to the other clubs in the PL. It probably makes the PL even more of a closed shop than it already was, but I don't think there's any more chance of someone like West Brom winning the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Easier compared to what? I can see that it would be easier with regards to European competitions maybe (although there is still a limit on how many players you can put on a pitch). But within itself, surely it must get harder. All the teams strengthen and the gap between rich and less rich becomes less (although it becomes greater to the poor). When the likes of West Brom and Crystal Palace can buy players who were more likely to go to a top 6 team a few years ago, this evens the playing a lot. Except they won't have the rep to sign the players that the top teams will be able to. This means they'll have to either spend way over the odds, or look elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 That's exactly as it should be, sure I read somewhere that Ayew's singing bonus was £6m & I expect his wage is in the £100k a week bracket, I'd imagine that Shaqiri has been given a similar financial package to sign with Stoke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I read somewhere that Ayew's singing bonus was £6m. Didn't have him down as a crooner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Apparently he's very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrw072 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 The extra TV money could also have an adverse effect. If a team struggles and is lumbered with a number of players on large contracts it wants to get rid of, that could lead to even greater financial difficulties than has happened previously. I could see administration becoming a more regular occurrence in FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 The extra TV money could also have an adverse effect. If a team struggles and is lumbered with a number of players on large contracts it wants to get rid of, that could lead to even greater financial difficulties than has happened previously. I could see administration becoming a more regular occurrence in FM. create a team that regularly finishes top 4, and watch how the likes of the 'big 6' (Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham, Liverpool) fall when they don't make Europe my FM14 save saw Liverpool relegated by 2018 - they never made the CL that same save saw ManUtd finish 7th in season 2 (after they made 5th in season 1) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenzar Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Man Utd are currently 2nd in the league in my game. It's the 2024-25 season and they've not made Europe for years. Oh, did I not mention they're 2nd in the Championship? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrw072 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 create a team that regularly finishes top 4, and watch how the likes of the 'big 6' (Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham, Liverpool) fall when they don't make Europemy FM14 save saw Liverpool relegated by 2018 - they never made the CL that same save saw ManUtd finish 7th in season 2 (after they made 5th in season 1) Sounds interesting! Very much like what happened to Leeds when they missed out on the Champions League a few years ago, and needed that money to pay their players! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marabak Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I don't see it makes much difference, except to promoted clubs. Even if club X has the money to "buy players who were more likely to go to a top 6 team a few years ago", so do all the other teams in the league (with the exception of the newcomers, unless they're backed by a Sugar Daddy, and teams re-entering the PL after having been relegated), so X isn't in any better position in relation to the other clubs in the PL. It probably makes the PL even more of a closed shop than it already was, but I don't think there's any more chance of someone like West Brom winning the league. My point isn't that West Brom will win the league, and more like they won't get beaten every week by the top 6 like teams in La Liga do. The gulf in quality will disappear meaning that there aren't any whipping boys anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dllu Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 create a team that regularly finishes top 4, and watch how the likes of the 'big 6' (...) fall when they don't make Europe Completely agree. All this will accomplish is to turn the PL inflation screw even tighter so clubs will need to spend even more money to stay on top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Easier compared to what? I can see that it would be easier with regards to European competitions maybe (although there is still a limit on how many players you can put on a pitch). But within itself, surely it must get harder. All the teams strengthen and the gap between rich and less rich becomes less (although it becomes greater to the poor). When the likes of West Brom and Crystal Palace can buy players who were more likely to go to a top 6 team a few years ago, this evens the playing a lot. Easier to buy players and maintain a very strong squad. WIth the budgets I was getting at Arsenal, I could essentially go out and buy pretty much anyone (it got to the point were I had agreed a deal with, an admittedly 33yo but still very good, Leo Messi, before I pulled the plug and moved to Spain myself Once you've got that strong squad, it's easy to maintain a strong performance, at least one of each of the other big clubs will change manager every year and even progressing through the cups in England becomes easy. In my last 3 years at Arsenal, I won the league 3 times, reached all 3 FA Cup finals (winning 1), reached and won 2 Capital One Cup finals and reached 1 semi, and reached 3 Champions League finals (winning 1). Conversely, at Real where I have only done 1 season so far, I won the league, but were matched point for point by Barcelona all the way til 4 games from the end, when I beat them. But my new budget is for £50m - 15% of what I had at Arsenal; that means, without doing some kind of package deal which will destroy the club financially for years I can't go out and buy a top top player. I guess what I mean by easier is, that to maintain success at Real will be more of a challenge as I'm trying to keep the team competitive (domestically and continentally) on a much tighter budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I've seen - and managed - at both Real and Barcelona when they had around £300 million budgets. Got pretty boring though. Any club where you end up having that much money is boring to me, and the Premier League is just going to get worse over the next few versions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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