mikcheck Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Hi all. In which position do you think this kid fits better? Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibbers Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 fb for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 FB by a mile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom14 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Yes full back. He's very quick and not very good in the air. His technicals are better suited to full back too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikcheck Posted September 19, 2015 Author Share Posted September 19, 2015 Thank you all! One more thing, for an attacking fullback, is off the ball more important than positioning, or they both go hand in hand? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Positioning is a defensive attribute for taking up good positions when the opposition have the ball. Players with good positioning won't get caught out by runs as often and tend to get a high amount of interceptions. Off the ball is an attacking attribute and covers how well a player takes up attacking positions when his teammates have the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikcheck Posted September 19, 2015 Author Share Posted September 19, 2015 Thanks. Both are important for the role then, although i tend to value more positionig for that position, because the player doesn't need to move much when attacking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalumF Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Shame he cant dribble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikcheck Posted September 19, 2015 Author Share Posted September 19, 2015 Yeah...can't expect a big miracle there with just 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavessi Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Yes, as other have said, get him dribbling training. he really needs it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 is dribbling that important though? he seems more of a defensive full back, I'd be more looking at his positioning/marking first Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavessi Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 is dribbling that important though?he seems more of a defensive full back, I'd be more looking at his positioning/marking first He has great pace and acceleration but with 4 dribbling he is no good for a guy patrolling the flanks. He is never going to be good enough for a top team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikcheck Posted September 20, 2015 Author Share Posted September 20, 2015 I dont demand too much from my fullbacks though, only to provide with, good passing and to be composed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneronaldo Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 He has great pace and acceleration but with 4 dribbling he is no good for a guy patrolling the flanks. He is never going to be good enough for a top team. If he is to be played as a Limtied Full Back, simply there to stop the opponent winger from having any fun, then Dribbling is hardly necessary. Besides, you can set the player to dribble less, or train the PPM "Runs with Ball Rarely". Or if the player does need to dribble, he has great pace & acceleration, knock it past them and chase Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 If he is to be played as a Limtied Full Back, simply there to stop the opponent winger from having any fun, then Dribbling is hardly necessary. Besides, you can set the player to dribble less, or train the PPM "Runs with Ball Rarely". Or if the player does need to dribble, he has great pace & acceleration, knock it past them and chase and that's my point work on his marking/positioning, and then see him as a defensive option if the opponent has a world-beating left winger just park him on the bench (which is probably his ceiling anyway as a 3* player) and then he comes on to close a game out/ nullify a threat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
millwalllion Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I found a Brazilian newgen, who's natural position was RB. He is 6'4, great marking, heading and tackling, poor dribbling, crossing and pace. Is an obvious CB, yet natural position was RB. Trained him on CB until maxed out, but still shows as a RB. I've never played him there, surely he should lose that natural comfort with the position at some point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miravlix Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I found a Brazilian newgen, who's natural position was RB. He is 6'4, great marking, heading and tackling, poor dribbling, crossing and pace.Is an obvious CB, yet natural position was RB. Trained him on CB until maxed out, but still shows as a RB. I've never played him there, surely he should lose that natural comfort with the position at some point? No, because pre-training stuff is apparently coded to be part of the player forever. They can loss trained positions though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikcheck Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 Thanks guys. One more question. Do you have any number of first team games you try to give to young players that you think it's enough for them to keep developing well? Something around 20 full games? I have 7 new youngsters in my team and i want them all to have enough game time each season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneronaldo Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Thanks guys.One more question. Do you have any number of first team games you try to give to young players that you think it's enough for them to keep developing well? Something around 20 full games? I have 7 new youngsters in my team and i want them all to have enough game time each season. Sub appearances work as well too I think, just give them as much chances as you can afford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikcheck Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 Thanks! Whats more important for the development? The total minutes per season or per game? For example, is it better to play 2 games for 25 min each or 1 game for 50 min? Or doesn't matter, as long as he get play time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eple Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Out of curiosity.. why are you keen on using and developing this player? I would rather look for a player without glaring weaknesses. What's best for development? I'm not sure there is a answer to your specific question, but to say lots of game time. Meaning keep him in the youth-side and have him stay match fit for the entire season and give him as much 1st team football as you can afford to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikcheck Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 Hey eple. Well i believe this kid has potential even though some of the important atributes for the role are really low. But i will risk. Thanks for the reply! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneronaldo Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Hey eple. Well i believe this kid has potential even though some of the important atributes for the role are really low. But i will risk.Thanks for the reply! Work on his Positioning & Marking. The kid won't be a world beater, but if his hidden attributes like Consistency etc are good he would be a decent & cheap backup option to call upon. He will probably qualify as home-grown as well since he is still only 17, which is useful for registering CL squads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MECAP Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 too short to be a CB, needs training in positioning, jumping and heading to be able to play as CB(stopper), it's easier to teach him crossing plus PPM Knocks Ball Past Opponent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 FB Positioning, jumping and heading unacceptable for a top-DC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikcheck Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 Thank you all. If i dont focus on his positioning, but improve his off the ball and composure instead, can he still be a good FB? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MECAP Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 off the ball is receiving ball when your team attacks, the higher the less player is caught offside, composure is for scoring goals/hit ball on target, those are for attacking players, but his first touch is crap too, just use highlight attribs for a role, just train him for full back(s) role Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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