I absolutely suck and need help

[Philkgl]

Hi,

I absolutely suck and need help lol,

usual strategy is to start on standard mentality and switch to control/counter depending on how it goes, most other settings are left default like balanced mentality etc, I also have a fluid 433 trained to use in easy cup games so I don't use the same tactic all season,

have posted a pic of the tactic to see if anybody can see any obvious problems, let me know if you want any further images or info, am only a couple of games in as took time away due to being sick of getting beat and started a new game, but I already got pumped 4-0 by a team I would expect to win against in real life so likely it will go pear shaped soon enough:

[Cougar2010]

There are a few things I want to comment on:

First off when you say you start on standard and then switch to counter/control depending on what is happening, do you mean switching tactics or just simply changing the mentality (I see you have a 442 standard & 442 counter saved). Its fine to just change the mentality of a tactic, think of it like making a sub. A lot of users seem to think they can't change anything thats been saved but its fine to make small changes.

The second point on changing mentalities is to understand why you are changing it and what to change it too. Your thought process should be - Its not working > How do I improve it > Which mentality implements those changes rather than randomly changing it hoping for the best.

Next is you have to understand your formation, the strengths, the weaknesses and how the different roles & duties alter it. I generally see 442 as a fairly balanced formation but its not a good one for struggling teams, it performs much better when you are a stronger team in a division and controlling the matches. Saying that you are Rangers so you should be able to make it work.

Overall your choice of roles/duties is pretty good it just has one major flaw - Two attacking strikers, typically you want one on a support duty to make himself available when the ball comes forward and link the midfield to the attack. If I was to be more picky users have found 442 with attacking wingers to be quite open down the sides on FM15. You could consider using attacking wide midfielders instead who will defend better while I would also consider changing your fullbacks from automatic duty to straight support.

After that its just a case of making the right decisions during a match. As Rangers you'll probably find that other teams play quite defensive against you therefore you need patience, especially if you don't score an early goal to open the game up.

[Carles Alena]

2 sets of changes.Wide players changed to wide midfielders in support duty and the deep lying playmaker set to defensive role with ball winning midfielder changed to an advanced playmaker or cm role.Right now ur central midfield duo is really defensive oriented and will not move up the field.So that makes ur attackers isolated(since both on attack duty) and will not even meet up with wingers either as the wingers will focus on staying wide.

Im pretty sure ur formation looks like this in game

----------------------P------------------------

------------------------------AF---------------

W--------------------------------------------W

----------------BWM---------------------------

-----------------------------DLP---------------

FB-------------CD----------CD--------------FB

----------------------G-------------------------

But if u change it to my suggestions it will look exactly like this

---------------------P--------------------------

---------------------------AF-------------------

--------------CMa or AP-----------------------

wm-----------------------------------------wm

---------------------------DLP------------------

FB----------CD------------CD---------------FB

-----------------------G------------------------

[jackane24]

I'd really change one of your strikers to a support role. Your partnership is way too attacking.

[It'sYourTactics]

The midfield is a big problem in this tactic I think.The wingers getting and staying up too high on the pitch, your DLP is also a bit higher up.When you lose possession there's only 1 man in the midfield to stop the counter attack.But as he is a BWM he's going to leave his position and go to press the man in possession and that'll leave your centre halves with zero protection. The second problem is the role of the strikers.None of them are offering anything in build up play and are always looking to make runs. Also they only have support from the wings via crosses so if you come up against two tall CDs most of the balls in will get snuffed out and they'll not be getting much support from other players(because of the roles in the m/f) and will be ineffective.

So,the changes I'd make is

1.Use a DLF/CF(s) with the AF(a)

2.Change W(a) on both wings to W(a)-W(s)

3.In the midfield DLP(d)/CM(d) with CM(a)/AP(a)

[Overmars]

I love the CM(a) role, but I would hesitate to use that if I had only two central midfielders. I think if you use two central midfielders that you need one on support and one on defend duty.

I do agree that one forward should be more of a support player.

[johnnyyakuza78]

The midfield is a big problem in this tactic I think.The wingers getting and staying up too high on the pitch' date=' your DLP is also a bit higher up.When you lose possession there's only 1 man in the midfield to stop the counter attack.But as he is a BWM he's going to leave his position and go to press the man in possession and that'll leave your centre halves with zero protection. The second problem is the role of the strikers.None of them are offering anything in build up play and are always looking to make runs. Also they only have support from the wings via crosses so if you come up against two tall CDs most of the balls in will get snuffed out and they'll not be getting much support from other players(because of the roles in the m/f) and will be ineffective.

So,the changes I'd make is

1.Use a DLF/CF(s) with the AF(a)

2.Change W(a) on both wings to W(a)-W(s)

3.In the midfield DLP(d)/CM(d) with CM(a)/AP(a)[/quote']

was gonna post but actually I simply would be repeating this.

[macca72]

Have a think about this.

What do your starting 11 players attributes look like?

If you have one who is an out and out attacking winger, play him in that role, but think about what he will need to impact games.

- He won't require an overlapping fullback, so make sure the FB role & duty on that side is more supportive.

- You'll want to make sure the striker on his side doesn't get in his way, but offers him an easier pass, so play your supporting striker (DLF / F9) on his side.

- He's going to want to cross, so make sure your attacking striker is going to be in the box and ready to finish what he creates.

I've guessed the above based on the fact that you started with 2 wingers, so probably have at least 1 good one, the above probably covers 4 of your 10 outfield players.

Another way to look at it is to choose your best player, work out what role is going to get the absolute best out of him, then start to build around that.

Good luck