JayKinobi Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Hi everyone, Just a quick question on squad sizes and training. I have quite alot of players sitting in my U18 and U21 squads, most who will not amount to alot in the long run. Does the amount of players affect training in any way? More players, less training time for instance. I was planning on trimming the squads down to a manageable number so that i can get a better handle on things, is this something people do? If so how do i do it, just release the player or try to sell? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomit Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 A huge number of players can mean that your coaches can't keep up. A clue is if your coaches workload is anything else but "light" - then you should offload some players. "Average" workload is not all bad, but not optimal. A huge number of players can also mean that very few of them are getting enough playing time (matches), which will also hurt their development. Yes, sell. If no-one will buy, release. Start with shortest contracts/lowest wages so that it won't hurt you too much financially. Those that you think has a potential and could do a job for you in the future; loan them out. At a professional club: 18-25 players in the first team, 15-16 players in the reserves or U21 team - 15-16 players in the youth team. 55-60 players total. Provided that you can hire enough coaches to keep every coach at a light or at least average workload. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKinobi Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 Cheers thomit, Let the streamlining begin Also is the U21 team also the reserves?? I notice i am asked quite often whether to make players available for the reserve team (U21) for match fitness and the like. Although when i look at my U21 screen 90% are out on loans in various parts of the footballing world. Is this correct or should i only send the genuinely good ones out on loan and keep the rest back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eple Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Are you playing Parma? Keep the really good talents in your first team, but make them available for youth sides if they are not involved in the first team games. Let the talents you are unsure about go out on loan when they are 18/19++ years old, but only if it's at a decent level and only allow it if they are to be first team/key member Then keep around 22 players (one for each position) in your youth side. With a good setup players can develop very quickly in the U-18 side. I usually use the U-21 as a dumping squad. Meaning players that will never make it at the top, but doesn't hurt to keep around in case of an injury crisis, and then supplemented by players needing match fitness. Players going out on loan is usually ineffective. They will develop, but at a very small rate and any injury will set them back quite a bit. They will develop much better under your control in almost all cases provided you have decent facilities, good coaches and give them sufficient game time. The rare successful loans in regards to development is when you have a high quality player that you have no room for to give playing time, but he is good enough to get a loan with a top league club as a first team player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnUrF Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Something I'm not sure of, but don't U18s have coaches of their own? So even if you'd get rid of all your U18s players it wouldn't make the task of your first team/reserve (or U21) coaches any lighter. -SnUrF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eple Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 That's true of course, but I don't think anyone was suggesting you get rid of excess youth players to lighten the 1st team workload. Rather reducing the amount of players in the youth sides to reduce their respective coaches training workload. A few teams, especially in Italy, have huge squads. Parma in example have something like 130 players and the coaches workload is very high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKinobi Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 Oh no i wasnt going to get rid off excess youth to lighten the first team load. I was just wondering why i even have an U21 team when 90% of them are out on loan. Playing a game with a striker and a goalie wouldnt be fun at all haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKinobi Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 Also im having trouble selling some of the poorer players in the U21 and U18 scorer. I feel mean just releasing them haha, is it an okay thing to do to just hit the release button? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooner4ever Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Also im having trouble selling some of the poorer players in the U21 and U18 scorer. I feel mean just releasing them haha, is it an okay thing to do to just hit the release button? Why not release if the player has no future at the club? You are the manager! If you cannot sell or loan out the player, asking for mutual termination of contract first can be useful too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
podunkboy Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Also im having trouble selling some of the poorer players in the U21 and U18 scorer. I feel mean just releasing them haha, is it an okay thing to do to just hit the release button? At least at lower levels, if you can't sell them outright at transfer, sometimes you can offer to clubs at "$0" fee and add a "25% of next sale" clause. Even if their next club releases them on a free, you're at least not out any contract settlement fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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