CurnRaisin Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 First of all I'm not sure this is a bug so posting it in general. But I'm having some weird wages issues that I never seen before in FM15 (929hours) I started a new game a while back as Go Ahead Eagles only in my second season but some times when I offer players contracts I get a very small window of wages to offer (see the attached image). Now I'm not talking about having bad finances or being near my wage cap but I actually cant lower the wage past a certain point and the lowest wage I can offer is much too high for me on most players For example my highest paid player is on 6.5k/w 2nd is 6k/w then 3rd is down to 3k/w the player in the contract offer screen is a free transfer looking for backup squad roll yet the minimum I can offer him is 6k/w with a £500 swing in wages, not much room for negotiations at all and the minimum doesn't change regardless of squad roll offered other times only the same wage choices are there regardless of squad roll, in fact in the example I gave you from back up to first team its the same wage choices yet at key player its only 6k not a penny above or below it which means I could offer him more for backup than I could for key-player . Is this something to do with signing unattached players, is it certain agents lock in a minimum wage but nowhere tells you this or is it something form the Dutch league that I may have never encountered before, it doesn't happen with all players though the 2nd attached image is another free agent player who has a normal wage choices not only that but the highest I can offer him for a first team place is lower than what I could offer the other player for backup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeltmurrayuk Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Check the league rules as I think some leagues/countries have min. wage rules for players, see what happens if you adjust the signing on fee of each player as it may be the £90K signing on fee you are offering the second player takes him above the min. wage so you can offer him what wage the board wants, whilst the first players £18K bonus isn't enough to push him past the min. wage requirements hence the £6K p/w fixed wage offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurnRaisin Posted October 24, 2015 Author Share Posted October 24, 2015 Check the league rules as I think some leagues/countries have min. wage rules for players, see what happens if you adjust the signing on fee of each player as it may be the £90K signing on fee you are offering the second player takes him above the min. wage so you can offer him what wage the board wants, whilst the first players £18K bonus isn't enough to push him past the min. wage requirements hence the £6K p/w fixed wage offer. Thanks for the reply. I can see nothing in the league rules that suggests anything. Also I tried to change the loyalty bonus and the agent bonus and its the same. I did notice more strangeness, having approached some players to sign/future transfers arranged my wage budget is now near maxed, and as such the board are limiting my offered wages as expected, my max wage for a first team player being just £230 (see the first image) yet when I offer other player contracts and the weird thing happens its still the same, as in £6k-6.5k even for backup or rotation, now I also seen that one player is dubious over joining me and he is the one where the weird thing is happening but i checked and there are other players who are very interested who it happens to too, he is just the one I happened to take the screen shot of. I can still play my game fine, its just really irritating me not knowing why this is happening if I knew how or why it happens on some players but not others i could work around it or even use it to my advantage but I cant see any pattern to who it happens to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 This is a Dutch League rule that requires non-EU players to be paid a minimum of £6,000 per week, it encourages clubs to not sign cheap foreign players ahead of those who are trained locally. The fact that you can offer Rajkovic a contract when you're over budget is potential a bug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurnRaisin Posted October 25, 2015 Author Share Posted October 25, 2015 This is a Dutch League rule that requires non-EU players to be paid a minimum of £6,000 per week, it encourages clubs to not sign cheap foreign players ahead of those who are trained locally.The fact that you can offer Rajkovic a contract when you're over budget is potential a bug. Non EU is the one thing I never thought of nor noticed. If someone wasn't in the middle of a match on a network game id load it right now and check. Cheers for knowing, this was annoying the hell out of me. I never seen anything about this in the league rules is it wrote anywhere in game, also is it new I had a game as Ajax in a recent FM 14 or 13 and I'm sure and it wasn't in it? so how does this work as i offered a 17yr old Brazilian a 3k contract, but it was the same thing of the minimum contract i could offer was 2.8k-3.3k and this was for a 17yr old that never had a club, So is it done by age or reputation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 The fact that you can offer Rajkovic a contract when you're over budget is potential a bug. except he isn't over budget signing Rajkovic would actually put him into the red, but otherwise he's (very marginally) in the black Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurnRaisin Posted October 25, 2015 Author Share Posted October 25, 2015 except he isn't over budgetsigning Rajkovic would actually put him into the red, but otherwise he's (very marginally) in the black This is true but the board are limiting me on other transfers and I think it is'nt in the red as i have players set to sign for me, so they wont join the the summer window, but the board are still taking their wages into consideration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 note the key difference of contract duration, try out a key player role with a 1 year deal, see if you can offer a 'normal' wage my idea is that with Rajkovic, it's a 1 year deal, so the board can take 1 year before going back into the black with Richards, it's a 2 year deal, so he'll be around a lot longer (and you'll have FFP issues) alternatively, the board may not have that much spare cash available (running basically on prize money and anyone you end up selling) - they might not be able to cover 2 years in the red without folding, hence the restriction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 except he isn't over budgetsigning Rajkovic would actually put him into the red, but otherwise he's (very marginally) in the black He mentioned that there are already future signings confirmed as coming in & the screenshot shows that £7,500 is being added to the wage costs when they arrive which will take him £4,000 over budget if the current budget is carried over to next season, their wages are taken into account to limit what can be offered to another other future signings. As someone who worked on the T&C side FM I'd be confident that a look under the hood would reveal an issue with the minimum wage rule overriding the wage budget restrictions. I'm also kicking myself for missing this potential bug. note the key difference of contract duration,try out a key player role with a 1 year deal, see if you can offer a 'normal' wage my idea is that with Rajkovic, it's a 1 year deal, so the board can take 1 year before going back into the black with Richards, it's a 2 year deal, so he'll be around a lot longer (and you'll have FFP issues) alternatively, the board may not have that much spare cash available (running basically on prize money and anyone you end up selling) - they might not be able to cover 2 years in the red without folding, hence the restriction That's a idea & one that could be a good feature but currently contract length does not affect the amount that can be offered in negotiations., the only restrictions a board can currently put in place is the maximum length of contract that is available to offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurnRaisin Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share Posted October 26, 2015 Haven't had much of a chance to play more and cant test any more since I got my new wage and transfer budget and its a lot higher since I managed to get 2nd , but It does seem to be non-EU players like you said, and the wage limit on the non-eu seem to override the board limitations on wage, as far as I can tell so even though normally the board where only letting me offer £230 for first team if I tried to sign a non-eu it would lock it to between £6k-£6.5k. Whether or not it would still do it if i was actually over my budget I cant tell, due to my wage budget going up for the new season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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