Legendary Manager Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Morning, Thinking of getting a PC from work to play FM2016 - not very good on computer tech stuff. Is this any good? Key features: •Intel Core i5-6400T Quad-Core Processor with Intel HD Graphics •2.2GHz, 6MB L3 Smart Cache (Turbo Boost up to 2.8GHz) •Windows Home 10 64-bit •8GB DDR3L RAM •Slim-tray SuperMulti DVD burner drive •1TB 7200 rpm SATA hard disk drive + Dropbox + HP Connected Drive •23-inch Full HD IPS 10-point touch-enabled LED-backlit display (1920 x 1080 pixels) •Wi-Fi 802.11a/b/g/n/ac (2x2) and Bluetooth 4.0 combo •3-in-1 memory card reader •Bang & Olufsen PLAY with 2 speakers •720p HD low-light Webcam with dual array •microphones •Wireless keyboard •Wireless optical mouse Many Thanks LM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendary Manager Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 Or this laptop.....•Intel Core i7-6700HQ Quad-Core Processor with Intel HD Graphics 4600 •2.6GHz, 6MB Smart Cache (Turbo Boost up to 3.5GHz) •Windows 10 Home 64-bit •8GB DDR3L SDRAM •1TB 5400 rpm SATA; 128 GB M.2 Solid State Drive •SuperMulti DVD Burner •15.6-inch Full HD IPS anti-glare WLED-backlit (1920 x 1080 pixels resolution) •NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950M dedicated 4GB DDR3L graphics card •Wi-Fi 802.11a/b/g/n/ac (2x2) and Bluetooth 4.0 combo (Miracast compatible) •Bang and Olufsen sound with 2 speakers •Multi-format SD media card reader •HP TrueVision HD Webcam (front-facing) with integrated dual array digital microphone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feriboy2 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I would choose the laptop out of these two because that has a faster processor. the faster the processor the better. basically that is only thing that matters for fm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Äktsjon Männ Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 It also has a dedicated graphics card. And an SSD. An all around better package spec wise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly Claret Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 It also has a dedicated graphics card. And an SSD. An all around better package spec wise. They're both very suitable, it's mostly about the RAM size because both of those graphics cards are more then capable. I've this week bought a HP Envy 15" with 8GB of RAM and i can fault it at all, seamless. Its got 5 star computer performance and 4 and a half speed (it was 5 star to begin with but i play with 10 leagues running so its bound to happen) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Äktsjon Männ Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 They're both very suitable, it's mostly about the RAM size because both of those graphics cards are more then capable.I've this week bought a HP Envy 15" with 8GB of RAM and i can fault it at all, seamless. Its got 5 star computer performance and 4 and a half speed (it was 5 star to begin with but i play with 10 leagues running so its bound to happen) The PC doesn't have a graphics card at all. The Intel onboard chip will run 3D but not on high settings whereas the GTX 950M will probably be able to max it. RAM size is pretty much irrelevant as long as it's at least 4GB and you're not doing very heavy multitasking whilst playing FM. An SSD will also affect the general responsiveness of a computer a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PineappleBlender Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 The laptop is far better, possessing a CPU that according to benchmarks is around 20% faster. It also has a dedicated graphics card which is about 25% faster, and also has its own memory which will amount to a de facto increase in system RAM since the intel 'card' won't reserve any. The laptop has a slower main hard drive, but a small SSD which will mean the OS and general apps installed load much faster. They're both very suitable, it's mostly about the RAM size because both of those graphics cards are more then capable.I've this week bought a HP Envy 15" with 8GB of RAM and i can fault it at all, seamless. Its got 5 star computer performance and 4 and a half speed (it was 5 star to begin with but i play with 10 leagues running so its bound to happen) Since you aren't aware that system RAM is mostly irrelevant for the average user once you get to around 8 or so (and the RAM is identical in each), as well as the fact that one PC doesn't have a card at all, I submit your advice is bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly Claret Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 The laptop is far better, possessing a CPU that according to benchmarks is around 20% faster. It also has a dedicated graphics card which is about 25% faster, and also has its own memory which will amount to a de facto increase in system RAM since the intel 'card' won't reserve any. The laptop has a slower main hard drive, but a small SSD which will mean the OS and general apps installed load much faster.Since you aren't aware that system RAM is mostly irrelevant for the average user once you get to around 8 or so (and the RAM is identical in each), as well as the fact that one PC doesn't have a card at all, I submit your advice is bad. Apologies, I was under the impression that intel HD Graphics was good. Did I at least get the fact that my laptop was a good standard advice correct?? OVERVIEW Type Laptop Operating system - Windows 8.1 (64-bit) - Free Windows 10 download SPECIFICATION Processor - AMD A10-8700P - Quad-core - 1.8 GHz - 2 MB cache Memory (RAM) 8 GB Graphics card AMD Radeon R6 Graphics Storage 1 TB, 5400 rpm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PineappleBlender Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Did I at least get the fact that my laptop was a good standard advice correct?? OVERVIEW Type Laptop Operating system - Windows 8.1 (64-bit) - Free Windows 10 download SPECIFICATION Processor - AMD A10-8700P - Quad-core - 1.8 GHz - 2 MB cache Memory (RAM) 8 GB Graphics card AMD Radeon R6 Graphics Storage 1 TB, 5400 rpm CPU is mid range to decent for laptops and competing against the likes of mobile i5s. GPU is competing against more modern integrated chips. RAM is a good size and all you should need these days for the average person. A good standard is relative. For gaming pretty much everything touted around these parts is some off the shelf overpriced crap from Currys or something, when you could get something far better buying direct from a PC manufacturer. People should only really be getting off the shelf stuff if they're desperate and need a machine now, and those who suggest such PCs pretty much don't know what they're doing. The ISP equivalent is going with AOL or Tesco broadband or something. Come to think of it, FM is quite weird in this regard; PC gamers usually have some decent understanding of where hardware ranks in the scheme of things. Yes every game will have "can I run X at Y settings" questions, but you don't tend to see "will this toaster play this at high settings" posts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Äktsjon Männ Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Come to think of it, FM is quite weird in this regard; PC gamers usually have some decent understanding of where hardware ranks in the scheme of things. Yes every game will have "can I run X at Y settings" questions, but you don't tend to see "will this toaster play this at high settings" posts. It's because a significant portion of FM players only play FM and then most of the rest play FM on PC or Mac and have a PS or Xbox for gaming. FM isn't really a game you associate with your average PC gamer. For example, this is what my steam library looks like and it will be similar for a lot of others Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I'd disagree Anyway the OP needs to confirm a budget. For FM only then the CPU is the most important factor, I dont believe it needs too much RAM. The OP said its a PC he is after. Once a budget is confirmed people can give suitable advice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendary Manager Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 Thanks all - Mr Pompey - I am happy to spend anywhere up to £1000 - £1250. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendary Manager Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 my limited knowledge makes me believe a desktop is more suitable as you can fit more crap in it that a laptop? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Äktsjon Männ Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 my limited knowledge makes me believe a desktop is more suitable as you can fit more crap in it that a laptop? Unless you're planning to use it as a desk drawer or something I'm not really sure what on earth you mean by that Desktop is more suitable if you don't need portability, so you sacrifice that for a bigger screen/better specs at a generally lower price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PineappleBlender Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 my limited knowledge makes me believe a desktop is more suitable as you can fit more crap in it that a laptop? If you don't need portability, desktops give better performance for the money. High end laptop components are typically far more expensive, and less powerful than their desktop equivalent. If you do care about pure power, desktops having more room to fit components in helps. For example, only very very expensive laptops can fit 2 graphics cards in, and it's usually using some nonstandard tech. For example, it needs a specially designed mirror image of the main card in a master/slave config. If the main card fails, you're screwed. On a desktop, both cards would be identical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pm37 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I'm looking at getting a new laptop and know nothing about computers. As my current one takes for ever to load and play the game. It takes me about 2 hours to play about 5 games without me over analyzing every detail of the game. So I want a laptop that will reduce the loading times to a minimum playing aleast 3 full leagues with a large data base. But I'm on a bugdet so will this one be any good. Processor is Intel pentium quad core 2.66 GHz 8gb installed ram 1tb memory With a Intel HD grachis card with shared memory Any help would be much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshace Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Budget please Pm37? Also.. check out : http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/316085-New-Laptop-Help-Needed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pm37 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Budget is around $700 Australian. Thanks for the link to the other post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 for $700AU, you could probably do better than that tbh edit: as a quick note (because it really should be in the other thread) I'd steer clear of places like HN/JB and look to places like MSY (if NSW or QLD) or Centrecom (for VIC) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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