Players complaining lack of game time

[eupheus]

It's starting to annoy me that so many players, even on rotation and backup roles, complain about a lack of game time. Even after the season has ended.

And midseason, even if I play them in games before the international break, during the break they come to me saying I didn't keep my promise.

I think it needs toning down, it seems particularly worse these few days. I'm in my 9th season with Portsmouth challenging for the title and balancing it with the Euro Cup.

Players need to understand that some games are far more important that others and that only the key players and first team players should be considered to start in those matches.

Just to clarify, I have 5 key players, 8 first team players, 7 on rotation and 4 as backup. Yet just recently, I had about 7 players complaining about a lack of game time.

Normally, I'm able to manage them better but this season has been very hectic. I can't risk playing them in the important matches yet I don't want players to be unhappy.

[Sunstrikuuu]

It does seem to me, eyeballing it, that your squad statuses are too tilted towards the top end. You have for example 13 players who expect to play every day, and 20 who expect to play a lot. Pull some of them back a bit and see what happens.

[stefancho]

I started with Ac Milan.Played 8 games.Montolivo started in 5 ,was subbed in in 2 games,didnt play in one and then complained he wasnt getting first team football lol

[Sunstrikuuu]

Generally I'd expect a player with a first-team squad status (and I'm not familiar with AC Milan's squad!) to start more than 5 of 8 games. In FM15 there were big differences between league fixtures and other games, so if some of his starts were in not-Serie A matches, that would affect things as well. First team and key players don't generally get too much joy out of substitute appearances.

[eupheus]

It does seem to me, eyeballing it, that your squad statuses are too tilted towards the top end. You have for example 13 players who expect to play every day, and 20 who expect to play a lot. Pull some of them back a bit and see what happens.

Every team needs good depth to challenge for silverware. I expect professionalism from players to know what's best for the team.

Yet I have backup players complaining saying they don't think they are up to the standard to play regularly, yet accept such a role.

Every season I give every player at least 15 games, excluding backup keeper. But even after the season ends, players complain when they're on vacation ? Hardly realistic imo.

Generally I'd expect a player with a first-team squad status (and I'm not familiar with AC Milan's squad!) to start more than 5 of 8 games. In FM15 there were big differences between league fixtures and other games, so if some of his starts were in not-Serie A matches, that would affect things as well. First team and key players don't generally get too much joy out of substitute appearances.

Yet even if I play a player with a first team role for say, 3 games in a row, then rest him for 2 games, my assistant would remind me that I'm expected to keep his promise.

[Relik]

same here is very annoying should be turn down a lot IMHO 2 month in the championship and they moan like hell and even if I play them for few game after I sub them ( because they are tired ) they moan the day after.

[Guest]

I started with Ac Milan.Played 8 games.Montolivo started in 5 ,was subbed in in 2 games,didnt play in one and then complained he wasnt getting first team football lol

That could be a borderline bug, only instance I can think otheraise is if he misses 3 consecutive starts & has hidden attributes more towards the troublemakers end of the spectrum.

If you have a save shortly before he requests a chat about a lack of starts it would be worth posting in the bugs forum.

[Guest]

Every team needs good depth to challenge for silverware. I expect professionalism from players to know what's best for the team.

Yet I have backup players complaining saying they don't think they are up to the standard to play regularly, yet accept such a role.

What these players are saying is that they want a more important role but realise they're not good enough to achieve this at your club & are looking to engineer a move to a club that will give them 1st team or key player status.

[Guest]

same here is very annoying should be turn down a lot IMHO 2 month in the championship and they moan like hell and even if I play them for few game after I sub them ( because they are tired ) they moan the day after.

You have two choices.

Choice one, plan ahead in a little more detail & accept that you need squad players who your staff feel are a couple of stars behind the starting player, ideally these will be players who can play to a reasonable standard in a number of positions as & when required.

Choice two, continue as you are but accept that you will have to deal with player concerns & complaints, downside with this option is if you make a poor decision it increases the chances of losing the dressing room.

[eupheus]

What these players are saying is that they want a more important role but realise they're not good enough to achieve this at your club & are looking to engineer a move to a club that will give them 1st team or key player status.

That's my issue with it. I'm not going to overhaul my entire rotation and backup player options just to please everyone.

Players irl are professional enough to understand squad rotation.

I give a fair amount of games to all my players. Needs tweaking imo.

Being a team that's challenging for the title is difficult when you have to manage player morale in this manner. It would be so much easier if players understood their roles. Backups are backups, rotation players are players that will come every now and then, and first team players will be mostly in the squad or sometimes benched to let other players have a game.

I'm might resort to using the editor for now. Really gotten worse in this 9th season.

[Guest]

Much like my post in reply to Relik the other option is to change your approach to squad building/management. FM has moved on with this new aspect to manage & that means setting aside what used to work in favour of a more balance approached.

If you want some help in assessing your squad balance & maybe some advice on how you might change your approach I'm more than happy to take a look at your save if you make it available on a file-sharing site.

[Sunstrikuuu]

That's my issue with it. I'm not going to overhaul my entire rotation and backup player options just to please everyone.

Players irl are professional enough to understand squad rotation.

I mean, they aren't, though. For three examples, Paul Pogba forced his way out of Manchester United at the peak of their success because he didn't feel he was playing enough. Rabiot has been agitating for more playing time at PSG and is and has been close to leaving the club. At Valencia, playing time conflicts between Negredo and Nuno were one of the primary reasons for the latter's sacking.

I think generally your problem is that your understanding doesn't match the game's. I mean, you have 13 players with the First Team or higher status. You can only play 11 in your first team. You're promising regular football to 20 players. That's a lot. I don't know what league you're in, but you can only play 14 in any given game, and if you're in, say, Scotland, you can only have 16 in your matchday squad. I don't see how you can possibly live up to the playing time promises you've made.

Edit: And you can always look-ish at the player's professionalism. It might that you just need some players with slightly higher professionalism and suchlike.

[eupheus]

Much like my post in reply to Relik the other option is to change your approach to squad building/management. FM has moved on with this new aspect to manage & that means setting aside what used to work in favour of a more balance approached.

If you want some help in assessing your squad balance & maybe some advice on how you might change your approach I'm more than happy to take a look at your save if you make it available on a file-sharing site.

That would be great and I would appreciate it. I don't know how and what site though. Never done it before.

I mean, they aren't, though. For three examples, Paul Pogba forced his way out of Manchester United at the peak of their success because he didn't feel he was playing enough. Rabiot has been agitating for more playing time at PSG and is and has been close to leaving the club. At Valencia, playing time conflicts between Negredo and Nuno were one of the primary reasons for the latter's sacking.

I think generally your problem is that your understanding doesn't match the game's. I mean, you have 13 players with the First Team or higher status. You can only play 11 in your first team. You're promising regular football to 20 players. That's a lot. I don't know what league you're in, but you can only play 14 in any given game, and if you're in, say, Scotland, you can only have 16 in your matchday squad. I don't see how you can possibly live up to the playing time promises you've made.

Edit: And you can always look-ish at the player's professionalism. It might that you just need some players with slightly higher professionalism and suchlike.

But still, players on rotation or backup roles shouldn't expect regular football as much as first team players or higher.

In the BPL so matchday squad of 18 players.

Pogba had an attitude, and no patience. Negredo was injured a lot. I will agree on Rabiot though.

All in all, you make a fair point, but I just feel like something isn't right. Only gotten worse this latest season. Previous seasons, these issues never really escalated this bad.

If it does continue on, I will possibly move on a few players.

[kaul]

I do believe it is a problem where too many players moan, and extremely hard to please.

Fellaini asked for more football on Oct 23, I had 2 months to give him more games.

My team had 11 games in between, he started in 7 of the games... and he comes to me and said promise not kept.

I could not possibly start him in every single games, 1, due to conditioning, 2, my other players would then cry for lack of football.

[Dagenham_Dave]

I do believe it is a problem where too many players moan, and extremely hard to please.

Fellaini asked for more football on Oct 23, I had 2 months to give him more games.

My team had 11 games in between, he started in 7 of the games... and he comes to me and said promise not kept.

I could not possibly start him in every single games, 1, due to conditioning, 2, my other players would then cry for lack of football.

If he's the type of player who feels he should be starting every game for you, and you don't think he's good enough for that, then you'll need to move him on and bring someone else in who would be happy with that level of playing time. Normally players would be more than happy with that amount of games after a promise, so he either thinks he should never be left out, is a key player, has had a promise of playing more than you have, or you've made most of it up.

Either way, managing the squad is every bit as important as managing your tactics.

[Dagenham_Dave]

I'm in January in my current season, and I have a 23-man squad. My team is top of the league and 18 of the team have either 'key player' or 'first team' as their squad status. I don't normally have this, but it's spiralled a bit, and is something I'll look into at the end of the season.

Despite this, I only have the following players even remotely unhappy

Allen is now happy again and has just signed a new contract after a wee run in the side. Didn't play every game since the meeting with me, but he's happy at his playing time (he's a 'first team player)

Hooper will be moved on soon when I've found a replacement. A right back I bought as a back up in the summer had overtook him in the team now, and Hooper's probably too good to be hanging around not playing, so I'll be moving him on

Cvetko played a bit for me last season, but has hardly played this year due to the great form of others in his position. He's a backup and it took him until just a week or so ago to approach me, and he's happy that I'm looking to loan him out as he's still fairly young.

Buithenhuis hasn't had as much game time as he should have given his status (key player) and has righfully complained. He's getting a run in the team now, and is playing well.

So, in a 23-man squad with 18 players expecting to play most weeks, I have only four unhappy players. And one of them has just become 'happy' again. It's more than possible to keep most of your squad happy if you're sensible with how you rotate.

[jc1]

In my 1st season I had 4 players complain, 2 rotation and 2 back up, I gave them more game time each and all worked ok because they were good decent players I gave them what they wanted as I do rotate the squad a fair bit to keep players fresh and stop them becoming complacent. The squad I took over had a good few strong quality players all vying for positions and it was hard to keep them all happy. I look for 3-4 key players in the team, these guys will play every game whenever possible, I have back up players for cover, the rest will be a mix of 1st team and rotation with a couple of youngsters who I'll play in lower cup games for experience. So I'll have an 20 man 1st team squad with 2-4 youngsters I can use for back up when necessary.

[kaul]

If he's the type of player who feels he should be starting every game for you, and you don't think he's good enough for that, then you'll need to move him on and bring someone else in who would be happy with that level of playing time. Normally players would be more than happy with that amount of games after a promise, so he either thinks he should never be left out, is a key player, has had a promise of playing more than you have, or you've made most of it up.

Either way, managing the squad is every bit as important as managing your tactics.

The thing is, you can't afford to start him every single game because of in game fitness issue when you have games to play every 3 days (Euro, league, cups). Of course managing expectations is part of the game, but sometimes it seems to get to a point where it is ridiculous. Nobody, even in real life I'd imagine, would expects to play every single games which includes lower level cup games.

[kaul]

I'm in January in my current season, and I have a 23-man squad. My team is top of the league and 18 of the team have either 'key player' or 'first team' as their squad status. I don't normally have this, but it's spiralled a bit, and is something I'll look into at the end of the season.

Despite this, I only have the following players even remotely unhappy

Allen is now happy again and has just signed a new contract after a wee run in the side. Didn't play every game since the meeting with me, but he's happy at his playing time (he's a 'first team player)

Hooper will be moved on soon when I've found a replacement. A right back I bought as a back up in the summer had overtook him in the team now, and Hooper's probably too good to be hanging around not playing, so I'll be moving him on

Cvetko played a bit for me last season, but has hardly played this year due to the great form of others in his position. He's a backup and it took him until just a week or so ago to approach me, and he's happy that I'm looking to loan him out as he's still fairly young.

Buithenhuis hasn't had as much game time as he should have given his status (key player) and has righfully complained. He's getting a run in the team now, and is playing well.

So, in a 23-man squad with 18 players expecting to play most weeks, I have only four unhappy players. And one of them has just become 'happy' again. It's more than possible to keep most of your squad happy if you're sensible with how you rotate.

I have a 27 men squad, 3 people are complaining, so I do okay managing expectations but that isn't the point.

[Cougar2010]

I have a 27 men squad, 3 people are complaining, so I do okay managing expectations but that isn't the point.

Well tbh a 27 man squad is too big to manage effectively so I'm not surprised you have a few complaining.

Both the EPL & European squads are limited to 25 for a reason.

[Sussex Hammer]

I have four players all complaining and they are all back up or rotation. The most annoying is my backup goalkeeper having a moan and when I tell him that he is only back up he just spouts "well I don't think that solves anything". I can understand players having a moan if the are down as first team or key players and to an extent as rotation but as back up they are just that, back up. In my back up keepers case he would have signerd a contract and joined the Club knowing full well he was a back up player so technically he is moaning about something that he expected in the first place!

[Dagenham_Dave]

The thing is, you can't afford to start him every single game because of in game fitness issue when you have games to play every 3 days (Euro, league, cups). Of course managing expectations is part of the game, but sometimes it seems to get to a point where it is ridiculous. Nobody, even in real life I'd imagine, would expects to play every single games which includes lower level cup games.

What's Fellaini's squad status? I find it difficult to believe that a player who has complained would consider a promise not kept if he started 7 of the next 11 games after your meeting UNLESS he's a key player and he feels he deserves to start every match. During this run, did you check his status under 'promises' to see how it was progressing?

[DavidPengilley]

I have four players all complaining and they are all back up or rotation. The most annoying is my backup goalkeeper having a moan and when I tell him that he is only back up he just spouts "well I don't think that solves anything". I can understand players having a moan if the are down as first team or key players and to an extent as rotation but as back up they are just that, back up. In my back up keepers case he would have signerd a contract and joined the Club knowing full well he was a back up player so technically he is moaning about something that he expected in the first place!

Did the back-up keeper's agent, or player himself, ask for back up status or did you negotiate him to that? Also what about the other players who are moaning?

[Cougar2010]

I have four players all complaining and they are all back up or rotation. The most annoying is my backup goalkeeper having a moan and when I tell him that he is only back up he just spouts "well I don't think that solves anything". I can understand players having a moan if the are down as first team or key players and to an extent as rotation but as back up they are just that, back up. In my back up keepers case he would have signerd a contract and joined the Club knowing full well he was a back up player so technically he is moaning about something that he expected in the first place!

Not entirely aimed at yourself Sussex but we've had squad status in FM for years now.

How can you not understand that every member of the first team squad expects to play, being a backup does not mean turning up for training every day and never playing. It means they understand their chances will be limited but they still expect to start 10-15 games a season and you should be managing that expectation through squad rotation.

EDIT

The problem is not with what the player expects its with what you & others understand from the term "Backup".

[Sussex Hammer]

Did the back-up keeper's agent, or player himself, ask for back up status or did you negotiate him to that? Also what about the other players who are moaning?

It was like that at the start of the season. Keeper is mid contract coded by the game so he has been back up since save started. The others the same. One I changed his status all others were back up or rotation at start of save.

Not entirely aimed at yourself Sussex but we've had squad status in FM for years now.

How can you not understand that every member of the first team squad expects to play, being a backup does not mean turning up for training every day and never playing. It means they understand their chances will be limited but they still expect to start 10-15 games a season and you should be managing that expectation through squad rotation.

EDIT

The problem is not with what the player expects its with what you & others understand from the term "Backup".

I agree to an extent bar goalkeepers. Rarely do you see a back up goalkeeper playing unless the first choice is injured, bar maybe Cup Competitions. Almost always as well as soon as the first choice is fit he will be back between the sticks.

Personally back up (to me) is just that, back up in case of injury, tiredness, loss of form, or maybe when a manager wants to change things after a bad run. In my case I am unbeaten in 8 so why would I change a winning team? That's the difficulty and when a player is moaning how many games is he expecting? What if he is not happy starting 10-15 games? For example if I start Antonio over Payet 10-15 times a season Payet might get the hump because he is a key player whereas Antonio is a back up player.

[HUNT3R]

Personally back up (to me) is just that, back up in case of injury, tiredness, loss of form, or maybe when a manager wants to change things after a bad run. In my case I am unbeaten in 8 so why would I change a winning team? That's the difficulty and when a player is moaning how many games is he expecting? What if he is not happy starting 10-15 games? For example if I start Antonio over Payet 10-15 times a season Payet might get the hump because he is a key player whereas Antonio is a back up player.

This part is quite important. Players will ask for more game time. The fact that they sometimes do, isn't an issue. They have ambitions etc. In your case, it would have been unbelievably simple to talk him round. You'll say "we're on a winning run so I don't want to change the team" or "xxxx is in great form right now" etc. It'll be especially easy if he doesn't have much of a case (low ability compared to the other GK) and if he has a decent personality.

[kaul]

What's Fellaini's squad status? I find it difficult to believe that a player who has complained would consider a promise not kept if he started 7 of the next 11 games after your meeting UNLESS he's a key player and he feels he deserves to start every match. During this run, did you check his status under 'promises' to see how it was progressing?

Yes I find it difficult to believe as well... hence the reason i'm sharing this experience.

He is a key player at the time and I guess he did feel he deserved to start every match - too bad so sad because he'd be dead tired if he did.

I didn't keep tab on the progress until I got the notice that the promise wasn't "kept".

I also had a squad status "back up" 19 yo Lewis Cook who started in quite a few games while subbing in others... came to me and asked for more first team football. Head scratches, I guess he was very ambitious and I loaned him out to save the trouble.

[Sussex Hammer]

This part is quite important. Players will ask for more game time. The fact that they sometimes do, isn't an issue. They have ambitions etc. In your case, it would have been unbelievably simple to talk him round. You'll say "we're on a winning run so I don't want to change the team" or "xxxx is in great form right now" etc. It'll be especially easy if he doesn't have much of a case (low ability compared to the other GK) and if he has a decent personality.

Oh totally agree, but unfortunately I don't think those replies were available to me. I'll double check next time it happens but I can honestly say I don't think I have ever actually seen a reply along the lines of "we're on a winning run so I don't want to change the team", which is a perfect argument you can have as a manager. As I say I'll double check next time it happens but a lot of the time the answers are very black and white, usually no room for pacifying the player. Silly answers like "you aren't first team this year but you will be next year", which I imagine can only be used to assure a youngster, "you are only back up" or the I'll let you go "this season", "transfer window", "next season", or "I'll give you a chance"/"last time I gave you a chance". They seem to be the usual which to be honest I wouldn't be to happy to hear.

To be fair it's better than last year as at least you don't have injured players having a moan two weeks after returning from injury but on the downside I am finding it difficult this year to loan players out. He hasn't moaned yet but Doneil Henry is a perfect example. 23 years old, reasonable potential but not first team standard but I can't loan him out for love nor money. He just sits on the development tab with no offers at all. There again if it's like 2015 he would come back from loan with less potential than he had to start with!!!!

[Dagenham_Dave]

The 'loan' option is definitely an issue this year. If you've had a player on the loan or development list but no offers come in, the player in theory should drop his concerns as it was him who accepted that a loan move would help, and it's clearly not the manager's fault if there's no offers. What is then happening is that if the player is in the final year of his contract, you have no chance of re-signing him, which is a pain if he's a promising young player. I have this problem with a young midfielder in my current save. I really don't want to lose him, but he simply won't discuss another contract, even though on the promises tab, he's 'happy' that I've attempted to loan him out. So annoying.

[HUNT3R]

The 'loan' option is definitely an issue this year. If you've had a player on the loan or development list but no offers come in, the player in theory should drop his concerns as it was him who accepted that a loan move would help, and it's clearly not the manager's fault if there's no offers. What is then happening is that if the player is in the final year of his contract, you have no chance of re-signing him, which is a pain if he's a promising young player. I have this problem with a young midfielder in my current save. I really don't want to lose him, but he simply won't discuss another contract, even though on the promises tab, he's 'happy' that I've attempted to loan him out. So annoying.

Has this been reported? If not, please do. Sounds like an annoying issue.

[jc1]

The 'loan' option is definitely an issue this year. If you've had a player on the loan or development list but no offers come in, the player in theory should drop his concerns as it was him who accepted that a loan move would help, and it's clearly not the manager's fault if there's no offers. What is then happening is that if the player is in the final year of his contract, you have no chance of re-signing him, which is a pain if he's a promising young player. I have this problem with a young midfielder in my current save. I really don't want to lose him, but he simply won't discuss another contract, even though on the promises tab, he's 'happy' that I've attempted to loan him out. So annoying.

I agree regarding the loan situation, if no one comes in for the player there is no option to tell him that and then tell to suck it up and get on with things.

[Dagenham_Dave]

Has this been reported? If not, please do. Sounds like an annoying issue.

Aye, it's already been raised by another user.

[Cougar2010]

I agree regarding the loan situation, if no one comes in for the player there is no option to tell him that and then tell to suck it up and get on with things.

I haven't tried it on 16 but on 15 if you offered them out for loan the player was happy even if no offers came in because he recognised you had made an effort.

Same with transfers as long as you tried to sell him the player is usually happy and it completes the promise.

[Dagenham_Dave]

I haven't tried it on 16 but on 15 if you offered them out for loan the player was happy even if no offers came in because he recognised you had made an effort.

The player is happy that I've tried to loan him out, but when you go to offer a new contract, he won't enter into negotiations because he's still 'unhappy' at the club, despite that being his only concern. The problem is also the length of the promise. I've still got 128 days left for my player, which takes him well over his contract end date, so I'm screwed.

[Cougar2010]

The player is happy that I've tried to loan him out, but when you go to offer a new contract, he won't enter into negotiations because he's still 'unhappy' at the club, despite that being his only concern. The problem is also the length of the promise. I've still got 128 days left for my player, which takes him well over his contract end date, so I'm screwed.

Yeah he is unhappy because the promise has been extended and not ended. He won't be happy until the promise ends at which point he'll talk.

Its less user friendly and doesn't work well which is what someone raised in the feedback thread? and posted in the bugs forum. SI need to come up with a workaround so its more user friendly.

[jc1]

I haven't tried it on 16 but on 15 if you offered them out for loan the player was happy even if no offers came in because he recognised you had made an effort.

Same with transfers as long as you tried to sell him the player is usually happy and it completes the promise.

Not had it this year but in last years game I tried to sell a player that was unhappy but had no interest from clubs, the transfer window came and went with no one wanting him, low and behold he was unhappy a promise wasn't kept. Was it my fault no one wanted him, no! so I ended up releasing on a free to get shot of him and lose out on £50K transfer fee.

TBH one or two wee things like this doesn't really bother me, I'm enjoying the game this year.

[Cougar2010]

Not had it this year but in last years game I tried to sell a player that was unhappy but had no interest from clubs, the transfer window came and went with no one wanting him, low and behold he was unhappy a promise wasn't kept. Was it my fault no one wanted him, no! so I ended up releasing on a free to get shot of him and lose out on £50K transfer fee.

TBH one or two wee things like this doesn't really bother me, I'm enjoying the game this year.

But how much effort did you make?

Did you just leave him on the list waiting for an offer? or did you offer him out? talk to him and ask him to make a move happen?

[jc1]

But how much effort did you make?

Did you just leave him on the list waiting for an offer? or did you offer him out? talk to him and ask him to make a move happen?

Yep did all that, I just think now and then certain players just don't attract the offers you'd hoped to get, he was a youngish half decent player but maybe had personality problems or hidden attributes that put teams off and tbh the reason he was on the list was his attitude towards me, so I can understand why no one came in for him.

[Bababui]

Im still playing 15 and its Sept 15; weve played 5 league games. A backup wants a meeting because he isnt getting enough games. Hes started 1 and come in as a sub in two others. Its the first season on this save. Its silly really.

[Cougar2010]

Im still playing 15 and its Sept 15; weve played 5 league games. A backup wants a meeting because he isnt getting enough games. Hes started 1 and come in as a sub in two others. Its the first season on this save. Its silly really.

So he wants confirmation of his role, he might have a backup status but is that fair? how good is he compared to the rest of the squad?

Its also difficult at the start of the save because there is no history, all he sees from a coding perspective is that he has started one and been a sub in two. You will always get coding oddities in these situations until you've through enough to give the history.

But its also easy to deal with, if you are planning on using him you tell him either that he will get games or that there is plenty of football to be played in the season. If not you let him know you will look to move him on. As long as you are honest in the conversation and keep to it there shouldn't be an issue.

[Bababui]

So he wants confirmation of his role, he might have a backup status but is that fair? how good is he compared to the rest of the squad?

Its also difficult at the start of the save because there is no history, all he sees from a coding perspective is that he has started one and been a sub in two. You will always get coding oddities in these situations until you've through enough to give the history.

But its also easy to deal with, if you are planning on using him you tell him either that he will get games or that there is plenty of football to be played in the season. If not you let him know you will look to move him on. As long as you are honest in the conversation and keep to it there shouldn't be an issue.

He signed a FA contract agreeing to a backup status. He said that if he wasnt goung to get 1st team football he would want to move on. I understand why the feature is in the game but I dont think it has been implemented well.

[eupheus]

I don't understand why a player has to be played in his natural position in order to be counted as game time. I played 2 midfielders in their secondary positions but one of them thinks that chances are running out for me to give him first team football now.

I've even gave him a good run of consecutive games.

This needs to be fixed.

[HUNT3R]

I don't understand why a player has to be played in his natural position in order to be counted as game time. I played 2 midfielders in their secondary positions but one of them thinks that chances are running out for me to give him first team football now.

I've even gave him a good run of consecutive games.

This needs to be fixed.

Please report it in the bugs forum with a copy of the save so SI can look at the issue.

Both should have had the same concern if it was purely about secondary positions , so something else is probably the issue.