eupheus Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Just lost to Middlesborough who were 12th and hadn't won in their last 5 games. My team were 5th in the EPL but were quite poor away from home. I was leading 3-1 and they pulled a goal back just before half time to make it 3-2 and in the second half they won 4-3. My half time team talk was that I wasn't happy with their performance, because of the defending. The typical chances Boro had were a winger crossing to the other wing and the other winger had loads of space because my full back was a little inside. The width I set was fairly wide. I'm so frustrated at my team's inability to see out games and beat such opposition. Instead, against the big teams, they win some, draw some and always seem to put in a shift. That's not the first unexpected loss I had, I'd lost to teams that were bottom placed as well. One example was West Ham, 19th in the table. Lost 1-0 both home and away despite going on about how they must concentrate in the prematch press conference. Just cannot seem to perform away from home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Unexpected losses happen. If you want to learn how/where to improve, ask in the tactics forum, but provide actual info. This includes the complete tactic, match context, decisions/changes made in the match and maybe even a PKM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkbacca Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Last game I played was as Honduras vs Haiti finished the game with 63% possession 27 shots 14 on target they had one shot in the 87th minute and win the game 1-0, I still haven't calmed down and can feel chest twinges as I type. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eupheus Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 Unexpected losses happen.If you want to learn how/where to improve, ask in the tactics forum, but provide actual info. This includes the complete tactic, match context, decisions/changes made in the match and maybe even a PKM. It's not so much the tactics, but rather complacency against lower placed teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 It's not so much the tactics, but rather complacency against lower placed teams. According to your OP, it's more than just the odd unexpected loss. That's not complacency then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eupheus Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 My team just lost 1-0 to the 18th placed team at home. I had 8 clear cut chances, they had 1 shot on target. Absolutely ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk Enchants Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 My team just lost 1-0 to the 18th placed team at home. I had 8 clear cut chances, they had 1 shot on target. Absolutely ridiculous. That's my side every time I play Chelsea or City. They smash me with chances and I manage to poach a goal and park the bus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dap1987 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Its just complacency surely? But i dont get why people complain about these things, its the Premier League, it happens! If you won every week and only lost to big teams, the complaints would be that the game is too easy, you have to just bounce back from shock results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyboy89 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 That's football. The game (as you should know) is highly unpredictable. Try and devise a more conservative tactic for away games. Hit teams on the counter. Sit back and wait for an opening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eupheus Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 That's football. The game (as you should know) is highly unpredictable. Try and devise a more conservative tactic for away games. Hit teams on the counter. Sit back and wait for an opening. My team was the HOME side. Sure complacency exists but when you play a team that's totally out of form you're expected to win. Rather than having lost it, I'm more frustrated in the manner in which my team lost. Having 8 clear cut chances and not being able to score is highly frustrating. If I lost by being dominated I would put it down to the other team being better. And this only happens when I play team in the bottom 5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidPengilley Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 How 'clear cut' where the clear cut chances? That statistic and it's name is quite misleading as it makes you think it was easier to score than miss, and it's not always the case. Example being a cross to a striker 8 - 10 yards out, header but keeper saved. Marked as a clear cut chance. What it doesn't tell you is how good the guy was at heading (8 attribute) and the keeper's reflexes (16) - not a clear cut chance. Issue you seem to have it not being able to breakdown teams who set up defensively and hit you on the break. Tactics forum would be a great place to go to get some advice on what others do to resolve this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
herne79 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 It's not complacency. It's how other teams set up against you, and how you and your team don't adjust accordingly. For example, if the opposition sets up defensively with a parked bus, they'll be looking for that one chance to hit you on the break and score. If you play with say attacking fullbacks, a high mentality (such as Control or Attack), a high defensive line, and/or advanced players simply not tracking back much in defense, you could be playing into the opposition's hands and they'll get that one chance. And you'll be left feeling frustrated. It won't always happen - sometimes your team will simply batter the opposition's bus into submission and you'll win. But not always, and unless you see what is happening on the pitch and make a small adjustment accordingly, you'll get these type of games. Anyway, as has been mentioned a few times already, detail your system and what you have been seeing (for example, how you actually concede goals) in the Tactics forum and you'll get more help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattzy Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 My team just lost 1-0 to the 18th placed team at home. I had 8 clear cut chances, they had 1 shot on target. Absolutely ridiculous. How is it ridiculous? These things happen. Look at Chelsea a few years back, smashed everyone including Arsenal and hadn't lost at Stamford Bridge in god knows how long only to lose at home to relegation threatened Sunderland. That's just one example but it happens all the time. I bet you wouldn't complaint if it was the other way round? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 It's not complacency. It's how other teams set up against you, and how you and your team don't adjust accordingly.For example, if the opposition sets up defensively with a parked bus, they'll be looking for that one chance to hit you on the break and score. If you play with say attacking fullbacks, a high mentality (such as Control or Attack), a high defensive line, and/or advanced players simply not tracking back much in defense, you could be playing into the opposition's hands and they'll get that one chance. And you'll be left feeling frustrated. It won't always happen - sometimes your team will simply batter the opposition's bus into submission and you'll win. But not always, and unless you see what is happening on the pitch and make a small adjustment accordingly, you'll get these type of games. Anyway, as has been mentioned a few times already, detail your system and what you have been seeing (for example, how you actually concede goals) in the Tactics forum and you'll get more help. This, tbh. It's going in circles now so thread closed. Posy in the tactics forum and it'll be useful to upload a pkm of these problem matches along with your tactic and the changes you made in the match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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