Pj1966 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 I currently have a career with burton Albion. I play a 4-2-3-1 formation, I have both the wide players playing as inside forwards and the striker as an advanced forward, 1 midfield player as a ball winner and the other as a normal centre midfielder on automatic, the back 4 are 2 full backs as automatics and the CB as defending. I currently have it on a counter attacking tactic as I have read something on the magic that is Google to play like this as a good formation and the attic to play, I keep loosing at most I will get a draw! Even tho I have a majority in possession and shots, I am very confused, I play all players in their favourite position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 You'll need to give a bit more info here, for example team instructions, player instructions etc. Although it's not a good start that you're only playing counter attack because 'Google' told you. The first step to making a good tactic is deciding for yourself how you want your team to play. From there, you can build a team and a tactic in that image. You should ideally post a screenshot of your tactic and instructions, and we can take it from there. As for you losing games, have you checked the Prozone analysis to try and work out why you keep losing? Do you watch the matches, and if so, can you tell why the opposition are exploiting your weaknesses? You do have all the tools there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pj1966 Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 Thank you for your reply. I turned to the power that was Google as I was frustrated. I tell my team to play possession football. And play the ball out to the flanks/wingers, I shall get a screenshot when I have calmed down from the consistent defeats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 I tell my team to play possession football. And play the ball out to the flanks/wingers, A couple of alarm bells already ringing from this one sentence alone. You're playing as Burton Albion. Are you sure you have good enough players to carry off possession football effectively? It's all very well having a high possession percentage, but if the players aren't good enough to do anything with it, then it's useless. Secondly, you said above you're playing a 4-2-3-1 with both your wide players set as inside forwards. Why then are you telling your team to play the ball to the 'wingers' when you don't have any wingers? We'd also need to know how structured or fluid you play and whether you're setting up the right roles for the players you have. Are your wide players suited to being inside forwards for example? Or are they naturally wingers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pj1966 Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 I do apologise I am writing this on an iPad and I do not know how to transfer the photo to here. I do not always play the possesion football my current team instructions are to exploit the middle playing 4-2-3-1, high tempo, hit early crosses whipped crosses, occasional time wasting, tackling stay on feet, retain possesion and roam from position. My so called "wingers" are more than capable to play inside forward. They are 2 bars off the full circle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 You really need to list out all the Roles and Duties you are using. At the moment we just know the formation and that your Team Instructions seem to vary. It's impossible to advise without knowing more detail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Why don't you take off all team instructions for your next game, then watch the full game and when you see something that's not working that you feel a team instruction would fix, then add it in. Over time you should then be able to build up the way you want your team to play. Sounds a bit like you're just randomly choosing team instructions without really understanding how your players will respond to them. Why are you asking them to roam from position for example? In the lower leagues in England in particular, it's usually a good idea to keep it as simple as possible. Also, you said one of your instructions is 'exploit the middle' but in the previous post you say you play the ball out to the flanks. I get the feeling there's a fair bit of 'pinning the tail on the donkey' strategy going on here. If you have time, look through your strongest starting XI and look at what their most suitable role is, and then think about if that fits in with the way you're trying to play. This version of FM is more important than ever to have the right players playing in their correct roles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pj1966 Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 I understand what you 2 have said I look through te scout report read what the weakness is in the other team and what is possibly the strongest way my team way my team can over come that and play to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pj1966 Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 Do team talks matter that much? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Do team talks matter that much? No. They have an influence, but a perfect team talk won't mask a dodgy tactic, whereas a good tactic can mask a dodgy team talk. Again, we need to see the Roles and Duties to help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pj1966 Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 I tried the above, cleared everything on team tactics and player instruction, had 11 shots to 19, 1 on target to 9, 60% possesion, 5 corners to 4, 73% completed passes to 58%, lost 5-0 at home, had 2 goals disallowed and I dispdnt change anything or do any sort of team talk during the game. Feel like I'm cursed the goals came at completely different ways and at different times. I'm out of ideas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 You aren't helping yourself, to be fair. You still haven't given any indication of the Roles and Duties you use, and without that information no meaningful help can be given. Your pass completion is awful though; have you got lots of Attack Duties? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 lost 5-0 at home, had 2 goals disallowed and I dispdnt change anything . Why not? If you're losing that heavily, especially at home, it must be pretty obvious to see why, either by watching the match or looking at the analysis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
herne79 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 You're on a last chance warning from a mod about trolling. You've already been asked to post your full tactical details - do so or a mod will just shut this down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean0987654321 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 If you need any help on how to post your tactic here, OP, press Alt+F9 on your keyboard and upload the image on imgur or tinypic or whatnot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pj1966 Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198090691715/screenshots/ hope this works for you guys to be able to see my tatics and team, please let me know where im going wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean0987654321 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Now I can see what's wrong. Standard 4-2-3-1 with TWO supporting midfield roles. And not only you have two supporting midfield roles, you have a BWM (s) that will charge forward and press like a mad man leaving your DLP on an island I think you are better off using a CM (d) w/ Close Down Less PI. Also defensive FBs?? Why?? That gap out wide will be exploited by the opposition. You need your FBs to be somewhat attacking to close that gap. It also doesn't help that you use a LFB which will hoof it away at will and just like that, you lose possession of the ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pj1966 Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 Thank you for that, I shall try that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean0987654321 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Thank you for that, I shall try that Cool, hope you give us an update of your progress, too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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