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I always restart after 2-3 years into a save because I struggle with european squad registration, due to selling all my homegrown players.

Someone would claim: "don't sell them then". But they are backups who complain for not getting first team football. Also most of the times you can find a lot better players for less money/wages. Also AI pays a lot for some of them.

How do you personally keep yourself "disciplined" to meet the homegrown requirements for European squads? And I am not talking about 10 year old saves. I am talking about second or third season into the game.

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Easily, if you aren't planning your HG quota for the future then you aren't managing your team properly.

The bottom line is its part of your job as manager, it might not be important to you at the start but as you've found out bad decisions now cause you a problem further down the line.

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I never sell the best young ones, and I make sure they get games for the first team. Let them play against weaker teams. If you are lucky, one or two may improve enough to be a starter.

I also buy the best under 18 year olds I can get my hands on. In three years they will be home grown, and if exposed to first team action they should be good enough to keep.

I never sell a home grown player unless I can replace him with another from the reserves or buy one from another team.

If I can't meet the home grown quota, I will scout the league I am in, to see if I can find a home grown player from the nation that are good enough to play in my team.

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I know I am not managing my team properly that's why I asked. What do you do, how do you handle the problem?

As dieu says you either give your HG players more of a chance so they improve and don't become unhappy or you go out and sign more HG players.

I tend to try to give the current HG players as much chance as I can before looking at transfer options. Any general transfer decisions I make (either buying or selling) I consider the impact on the HG quota.

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Chances are you've got too many imported players (whether foreign or from your club's nation) that you're trying to keep happy. Having 3-4 youngsters around the squad should really make no difference to your overall team performance. Even if you sell them once they get to 23 or so, there should be a new guy coming up through the u18/u21/whatever squads to replace them. Even if they're not great, they need only be your 3rd choice striker or whatever, and then you have your full squad.

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I always have GK, DF, MD and FW as Club HG (usually my hottest prospects from the youth intake). They will only have very limited bench time (let alone pitch time), usually in the cups and European games when I have already qualified, but this approach ensures that I always satisfy the criteria.

For Nation HG, all I need is another 4 to again cover one each of GK, DF, MD and FW. They don't need to be world class, but they are either players with some potential to grow and aged 20-25 or older players 31-35 who can come on and do a job for 20 mins.

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But what do you do if you are managing in a crappy league with no considerable young talent? I don't want to spend money on garbage players and my team almost never produces any decent newgens.

Then look for decent players for your league and level' date=' and a few special players in those 'focus' positions. If I recall, you don't need [i']loads[/i] of home-grown players that it's unbearable, and that you'll be uncompetitive in competitions.

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Now that we are talking about homegrown players.

How does it work when they go on loan btw? Lets say I have a 18y old striker who goes on loan for 1 season in a foreign country and plays for 2 years for me, before he gets 21. Does he become homegrown? Or does the year he spent abroad **** it up?

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don't worry so much about hg players. you can pick 21 players and do very well. 21 players will take you to the final if those are well picked..

if you're lucky enough, you can have 1 from your youth team who will make it to at least the subs bench..

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Now that we are talking about homegrown players.

How does it work when they go on loan btw? Lets say I have a 18y old striker who goes on loan for 1 season in a foreign country and plays for 2 years for me, before he gets 21. Does he become homegrown? Or does the year he spent abroad **** it up?

Only time spent in the same nation counts, so if you loan them out between 18-21, it has to be to a club in the same nation.

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Isn't there some sort of glitch/fix where you can just register 18 out of the 24 slots and it lets you continue? I'm sure I do something like this - means a smaller squad for europe but works fine.

Ya, it is not a glitch. If you can't meet that HG requirement, you have to leave that spot blank. For example, if you are off by 5, those 5 spots have remain unfilled and cannot be filled by non HG players. So, if the registration requirement is 25 players and 8 must be homegrown, but you only have 3 HG players, then you can only register a total of 20 players. The other 5 spots must remain unfilled since they were supposed to be HG players.

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Leaving spaces is basically the way I do it.

You have 25 slots and you don't need 25 players, only 4 of those slots are tricky to fill. It can take a bit of a luck or very long term planning which you can't always afford or have the reputation for if you're improving a club quickly. The other 4 you have done something wrong if you can't find at least 4 players from the country you're in who can at least fill a roll in the team.

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and worst-case scenario, you can always fill in with U-23s that have two years at the club, since they don't need to be registered. They won't be world-beaters, but they'll do as a late-match injury replacement, and will get some game time. I always keep a few of those 5-white-star/1 yellow star players on hand.

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Now that we are talking about homegrown players.

How does it work when they go on loan btw? Lets say I have a 18y old striker who goes on loan for 1 season in a foreign country and plays for 2 years for me, before he gets 21. Does he become homegrown? Or does the year he spent abroad **** it up?

Only time spent in the same nation counts, so if you loan them out between 18-21, it has to be to a club in the same nation.

I've just done this to Real Madrid, loaned in a young goalkeeper for three seasons straight and managed to get him as trained at club (West Ham).

Might look into buying him now as he's potentially world-class.

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I along with a few friends I spoke with had this problem in some of the earlier games (13/14 etc) where as our academy became a ghost town and a continuous bring in, never play, let go situation

In 15 however I really focused on this aspect and got 'disciplined' and it's worth doing.

For the sack of a year laying roots you will really see the results flourish which is not only pleasing but allows you to focus on putting the money into one or two key players when you are successful.

I run a YouTube channel ( found in my profile) where I am going through what it takes to bring youth players up at a club that's just been promoted.. Might be some pointers in there for you as we go.

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