sgevolker Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Hi, I can't achieve that my full back hold's his position. My adjustments are: Duty = Support Team shape: Structured Team Instructions = Closing down = Sometimes Here are three examples were my full back doesn't hold his position and leaves huge space behind him were the opposition easily turn in. I have tried hold position and stay wider as player instruction but this doesn't solve the problem. What else ca I do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgevolker Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 From another Match, after 25 minutes. I think, I have a huge problem down the flanks. Please help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZZABCFC933 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Having the exact same problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
herne79 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 You can't look at your fullbacks in isolation. They are part of an overall system, all of which will have an impact on them. Post your entire setup in detail and someone may be able to help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOG Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 ^^^^ And just to clarify, Hold Position and Stay Wider/Narrower are in-possession instructions. Without seeing your setup, the three potential means of preventing your fullback from being pulled out of position: 1) Have an MLR covering space ahead of him or, less effectively still worth considering, use a flat three midfield. 2) Tell him to close down less. 3) Push up your d-line against more defensive opponents so your midfield isn't getting stretched out in the centre third. That said, you can also resort to man-marking if you do want him to stay wider. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgevolker Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 Here is my overall system. I will try close down less. I just want him to stay on the flanks and not to attak in center midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 That makes the root cause clear. Watch the defensive contribution of the wingers. Now you'll see why the full backs are engaging higher up field. The images you show of them narrow lack context, but they will narrow when the ball is on the opposite flank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordFunk Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Had this issue with the same formation too. I've changed my AMLR (2 IF or 1 IF/Winger, depending on the opponents defense line) from a attack to a support and my wingbacks both got the PI "Mark tighter". I also tried to teach (and buy) all of the wingsbacks to hug the line. Now while we're defending they are covering the zones, i want them to cover. Differences between your setup and mine are, my DLR are wingsbacks, which are on support duty with the PIs "cross from deep" and "cross more often" and my team shape is flexible with mentality control and width balance. Maybe it helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuanDewar Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Logically shouldn't the fullback hold position (if you ask him to) regardless of what the rest of the team is doing? If your wingers aren't contributing defensively and the opposition winger is running at your fullback why does he *need* to engage him? If you're telling him to hold position he should hold position. This seems like a flaw to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgevolker Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 After I switched my wingers back, it works much better for me. I had a 5 games winning run and only get 2 goals and nothing from the wings. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Logically shouldn't the fullback hold position (if you ask him to) regardless of what the rest of the team is doing? If your wingers aren't contributing defensively and the opposition winger is running at your fullback why does he *need* to engage him? If you're telling him to hold position he should hold position. This seems like a flaw to me As said higher up, Hold Position is an in-possession instruction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domus Clamantium Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 If you want your FB to stay in line, use the Defend duty. You can argue this makes him less of an outlet for crossing, but it certainly makes your team more solid, and believe it or not he will be available for passes if the winger gets in trouble and needs relief, albeit he will be in a much deeper position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto23 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 sgevolker, Which are like your instructions tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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