skyline72 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Hi guys, Recently, I had been searching for a tactic that I wanted my team to play. After downloading various tactics here and share-download-fm-16-tactics/, I found out that I like a bit of "A", "B", "C', etc. After inspiration from Fenech in his own thread(his tactic is one of those I liked), I decided to tweak and try to lump everything I liked into this tactic. With some trial and error, I came out with this tactic. It's about the same as http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/448994-Pep-Guardiola-s-Barcelona-TikiTaka433-and-an-alternate-4231%EF%BC%8Cfor-any-patches with some slight variations. Without further ado, I shall share with you guys the possession and gegenpressing tactic. This is actually a Barcelona tactic from Pep's era. One important part of the tiki-taka, is the collaboration of the defense and attacking, as the team is always in possession – in balance – as players will take up the roles of the other, provide cover and support in the ball circulation and the process of regaining possession as fast as possible. Here the transition phase is minimized as much as possible as it is seen as lost time by the help of utilizing an extremely high defensive line which gives you the assumption that the team plays the majority of the match in the opposite half. Former successful FC Barcelona manager Josep Guardiola, who re-invented the false nine, once said; “We want to emulate the amount of running players must do. When you win back the ball, there are 30 metres to goal rather than 80. I want Messi as far forward as possible.” I wanna share this tactic for people like me: High amount of possession Comfortable when the ball is in opponent half Gegenpressing 1 touch passing TEAM SHAPE Barcelona has MSN, Real Madrid has BBC, Man Utd has MMM. TEAM INSTRUCTION The short passing play looks to retain possession not taking any necessary risk in your own half. The lower tempo is necessary to ensure that the wingbacks gets time to move higher up the pitch. Play out of defense ensures that the players will pass their way out of defensive third with short passes. Working the ball into the box - I wants my team to wait for an opening or work hard to create gaps which they can exploit. Low crosses - lack of height in the team. Push higher up making sure the team press collectively high up the pitch. Close down much more coupled with specific player instructions to close down more often and opposition instructions will ensure that the opponents will have less time to get control of the ball. Tighter marking ensures that the players will stay in a close range of his opposite marker, making it more likely to intercept passes. I prefer to keep a narrower shape than them without sacrificing the required width needed in the final third to create gaps. Prevent Short GK Distribution - haven't seen much difference with or without. Very Fluid - it allows the whole team to press as a compact unit. Attacking - If you want to counter-press, you need to get men high up the pitch. PLAYER INSTRUCTION VALDES ROLE KEY ATTRIBUTES OF SWEEPER KEEPER First Touch Composure One on ones - can prevent conceding due to high line of defence Reflexes Agility Positioning Rushing Out - to swoop up a long clearance Acceleration Decision - to intervene or not Bravery Handling Communication Aerial ability Command of Area Low Eccentricity PUYOL AND PIQUE ROLE KEY ATTRIBUTES OF CENTER BACK Composure Passing Technique Vision First Touch Acceleration - close down Pace - close down Anticipation Positioning Concentration Decision - when to close down, when to hold or when to cover Heading - set piece Jumping Reach - set piece Marking Tackling Strength Bravery ALVES AND ABIDAL ROLE KEY ATTRIBUTES OF WINGBACKS Stamina Off the ball Teamwork Dribbling Flair Vision Decision - when to get forward or when to hold position to offer support for the ball circulation. Passing Technique First touch Crossing Anticipation - intercept passes made from the wide channel Acceleration Tackling Marking Balance Concentration Positioning Aggression SERGIO BUSQUET ROLE KEY ATTRIBUTES OF HALF-BACK Anticipation - being able to predict and react to what will happen next Positioning - always being at the right place on the right time Decision Teamwork Composure - stay calm Decision - where do I need to be positioned in order to increase the amount of passing options for my teammates and where shall I pass the ball in order to pass it out of pressure? Strength - shield Concentration Tackling Aggression Bravery Marking Balance XAVI ROLE KEY ATTRIBUTES OF DEEP LYING PLAYMAKER Teamwork - follow tactical instruction, works for teammates Off the ball - makes himself available at all times Position Vision - know where teammates are, where passes should go Anticipation - predict what might happen Decision - what is the best to do Work Rate Stamina Concentration First touch - receive ball under pressure Composure - make intelligent decision under pressure Passing Technique PLAYER PREFERRED MOVE OF DEEP LYING PLAYMAKER Dictate Tempo Plays shorter pass Comes deep to get the ball Looks for pass rather than attempt to score INIESTA ROLE KEY ATTRIBUTES OF ADVANCED PLAYMAKER Vision - see potential opening Decision - make correct choice Off the ball - seek vulnerable zone and exploit gaps Stamina Teamwork Work rate Dribbling - get past marker Flair - do the unexpected Agility Balance Decision Passing - retain possession purposefully Technique First touch PLAYER PREFERRED MOVE OF ADVANCED PLAYMAKER Moves into Channels Gets forward whenever possible Likes to switch ball to other flank Looks for pass rather than attempt to score Tries killer ball Plays one-twos VILLA ROLE KEY ATTRIBUTES OF INSIDE FORWARD(A) Off the ball Work rate Decision Team work Flair - do the unexpected Dribbling Agility - to be able to twist and turn Balance Finishing First touch - control under pressure in tight area Technique - pass and shoot Long shot - finish off attacks outside box Composure - keep calm Vision Passing Acceleration Pace Stamina PLAYER PREFERRED MOVE FOR INSIDE FORWARD(A) Cuts inside Places shots Curls Ball Tries to beat offside trap PEDRO ROLE KEY ATTRIBUTES FOR INSIDE FORWARD(S) Off the ball Work rate Flair Decision Determination Team work Finishing Composure - keep calm Passing Vision First touch - control ball under pressure in tight area Technique Acceleration Pace Agility Balance Stamina Dribbling PLAYER PREFERRED MOVE FOR INSIDE FORWARD(S) Cuts inside Places shots Plays short simple passes Comes deep to get ball Gets into opposition area Plays one-twos MESSI ROLE KEY ATTRIBUTES OF FALSE 9 Off the ball Team work Flair - do the unexpected Vision Passing First touch Technique Decision Dribbling Agility - able to twist and turn Balance Finishing Long shots - finish off attacks outside box Composure - keep calm Acceleration Pace Stamina Aggression Determination Anticipation Positioning PLAYER PREFERRED MOVE FOR FALSE 9 Comes deep to get ball Tries killer pass often Places shot Dictates tempo Plays one-twos "The true essence of the false 9 is to leave a normally occupied zone empty […] It was about clearing space in the central part of the most attacking zone on the pitch (the best area of the pitch) for the best player on the pitch. He needed to get into the zone for the final shot, but he shouldn’t stay there." KEY ATTRIBUTES FOR POSSESSION FOOTBALL Anticipation Vision Decision Composure Team work Positioning Off the ball KEY ATTRIBUTES FOR GEGENPRESSING Determination Work rate Team work Decision Aggression Stamina DOWNLOAD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline72 Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 I forgotten. Here are the Opposition Instructions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz13 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 You seen this one from FM15? http://www.passion4fm.com/football-manager-2015-possession-tactic-barcelona-tiki-taka-tactics/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdjinn21 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 i think u should create a filter list for players so we can download and insta search for the players we need. gonna give it a try and let u feedback , nice work there anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pindax Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 any result pls ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline72 Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 You seen this one from FM15?http://www.passion4fm.com/football-manager-2015-possession-tactic-barcelona-tiki-taka-tactics/ Nope. I didn't even buy FM15. I skipped 15. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz13 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Nope.I didn't even buy FM15. I skipped 15. great article though .. regardless of which version of FM it was based on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline72 Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 great article though .. regardless of which version of FM it was based on Well, I been looking at threads after threads searching for the tactic that I want my team to play. Basically, possession football is about the same. I just need to know how to integrate pressing into it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz13 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 The other issue is that of course a great tactic on paper doesnt work as it should in the game ... always very frustrating!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marckn Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 you can show your result that you have had with man utd? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline72 Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 I am just halfway into the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline72 Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 The other issue is that of course a great tactic on paper doesnt work as it should in the game ... always very frustrating!! Agreed! This tactic requires players of a lot of teamwork, work rate and stamina. Coz they are instructed to press, press and press. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline72 Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 Here are my goal analysis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oppiiz Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 This is really interesting! Could be something I want to try out when I am going to make a new save. Going with a low league team tho. And build around this tactic. How is your pos stats? And do you only use this tactic? Or do switch home/away? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline72 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 This is really interesting!Could be something I want to try out when I am going to make a new save. Going with a low league team tho. And build around this tactic. How is your pos stats? And do you only use this tactic? Or do switch home/away? Possession is high 50s. I only use this. Home/Away will dominate possessions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oppiiz Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Possession is high 50s.I only use this. Home/Away will dominate possessions. Cheers! Gonna try this out over the weekend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline72 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 Cheers! Gonna try this out over the weekend My save was corrupted. Just started another save. Tweaking some stuffs. Testing now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oppiiz Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 My save was corrupted. Just started another save. Tweaking some stuffs. Testing now. Ah... Hate when that happens :| But please do tell me how it goes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline72 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 Ah... Hate when that happens :|But please do tell me how it goes Yea. Will update here if it works better than the one I posted. Anyway, remember to let the tactic to be fluid. You will be mesmerized by the 1 touch football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olley669 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 have you done it with any lower teams yet and not man u or that ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline72 Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 have you done it with any lower teams yet and not man u or that ? Haven't got the time to try with lower league teams. Am still fine tuning it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelo Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Here are my goal analysis. Nice tactic. I see that your team has twice as many assists from the left side in relation to the right. Is there a way to balance it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigd84 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 nice work Skyline will try this out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigd84 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 download link isn't working can you upload a new one please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joandrle Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Skyline72, could this tactic works with Barcelona first season 16.2 without transfers?? plug and play and opposition instructions only?? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline72 Posted January 15, 2016 Author Share Posted January 15, 2016 Nice tactic. I see that your team has twice as many assists from the left side in relation to the right. Is there a way to balance it? Probably my Shaw is better than Darmian ? Hahah. Not very sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline72 Posted January 15, 2016 Author Share Posted January 15, 2016 download link isn't working can you upload a new one please? It's working for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline72 Posted January 15, 2016 Author Share Posted January 15, 2016 Skyline72, could this tactic works with Barcelona first season 16.2 without transfers?? plug and play and opposition instructions only??Thanks Should be able to. I tried this with Man Utd with no transfers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooniebagoonie Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 link isn't working for me either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigd84 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I click download but it just hangs there. So could you upload a new link please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline72 Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 Hi guys, I am developing another setup. Testing it currently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigd84 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 could you upload this setup tho please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline72 Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 Heres the link. Download Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aravind3544@gmail.com Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Hiii Skyline, Nice tactic.. good job.. awaiting your new or updated tactic version.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigd84 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Thank you!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline72 Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Hiii Skyline,Nice tactic.. good job.. awaiting your new or updated tactic version.. Does this works for you ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline72 Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Thank you!! How izzit working for you ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigd84 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I will be giving it a run tonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline72 Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 I will be giving it a run tonight Hope it works for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaxo Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Hey nice post and really well explained, very similar from the one of passion4fm web but i like your new ideas of Attacking instead of control or standard and you got slighly better OI's as they are more as i would have done, the preffered foot to show i mean, gonna try had really good success first with Arsenal and then with Las Palmas with passions tactic gonna see how it goes with your approach, will let you know, only got one little request could you manage to do a similar base tactic but with the IF's as midfielders and the wingback more at the back, i made sort of one but dont get constant results. i wanted to make it for keeping the ME thinkink coz through the season the performence in some matches drops. Nice thread! keep the good work! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeewbie Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 What about training? Defensive or attacking? I see that in the OI's for DC show onto foot is left. Shouldn't it be weaker foot instead of left foot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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