FM16 Defending crosses

[Ricky Riccardo]

Is there something going on with the M.E that my defenders can't defend crosses? This is the only way I'm conceding.

[RTHerringbone]

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/327822-Asking-For-Help-PLEASE-READ-THIS

[Luizinho]

Is there something going on with the M.E that my defenders can't defend crosses? This is the only way I'm conceding.

Yes.....

[Guest]

Yes.....

No!!!!!!

To elaborate, it isn't for everyone but there are some people still convinced that we are either lying or I guess using a different version of the game, how about posting the tactics and we can see what the issue is.

[Wladimir]

I hved the same problem when trying to make tactic with no wide midfielders.

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/451631-Help-me-understand-match-engine-and-improve-tactic

[Dr. Hook]

Okay, so let's disspell a couple of myths here. 1) First, yes, there is an issue in the match engine with fullbacks tending to tuck in too narrowly on defense. 2)However, if you know this, there are things you can do about it. While it can be annoying, it is in no way a gsamebreaking problem. The number one reason for problems with crosses is not having an effective midfield. If you FB/WB misses his tackle, or is stuck in narrow, you have to have a midfielder to cover out wide. Things you can do: tell your FB/WB to ease off tackles. Have a good tackling, high workrate etc. midfielder to cover your flanks. This is crucial for narrow formations. Closing down marauding fullbacks is also something you should look to do, especially in wingerless setups. All this said, you will concede some crosses, because it is part of football and it unrealistic to expect to shut down every crossing opportunity completely.

[RTHerringbone]

Plus there's the fact that roughly 40% of goals in real life stem from delivery from wide areas. In FM, the representation of the defending of these deliveries is ropey at times, but it's still a perfectly viable goal. If SI fix this in future, all they'll do is tweak the representation to make the positioning and reaction of the defence better - the goals will likely still exist, it'll just look more acceptable.

[noikeee]

Plus there's the fact that roughly 40% of goals in real life stem from delivery from wide areas. In FM, the representation of the defending of these deliveries is ropey at times, but it's still a perfectly viable goal. If SI fix this in future, all they'll do is tweak the representation to make the positioning and reaction of the defence better - the goals will likely still exist, it'll just look more acceptable.

This is kind of true but I think there's also fundamental problems not in defending within the area, but defending the wide areas themselves. That the numbers are correct overall despite that, just point that *more* things are unbalanced. For example whilst it's far too easy to find space for rampaging fullbacks in possession (which leads to goals from wide areas), but it's far too hard to play a direct ball up to a winger sitting high and exploit the space behind a carelessly attacking fullback on the break (which should lead to goals from wide areas but doesn't). Add it all up and it seems like the numbers of crossed goals are right because they cancel each other.

This all has deep tactical implications that are quirky and not true to real life. To be fair the current ME is still miles better than some MEs in the past, where things weren't balanced overall and there were some logical game plans that were far, far superior than others.

[RTHerringbone]

but it's far too hard to play a direct ball up to a winger sitting high and exploit the space behind a carelessly attacking fullback on the break (which should lead to goals from wide areas but doesn't).

Have you tried modifying Roles like Wide Playmaker at ML/R or Wide Target Man / Advanced Playmaker at AML/R? You can force the ball directly to those roles, and whilst they might have hardcoded PIs that aren't ideal if you want to create a winger's movement, it is a viable way to get the ball urgently into wide areas (plus there are TIs to further enhance that effect).

[Ricky Riccardo]

Thanks guys.

I'm playing with wingers, I will drop them back to wide mids. I tried 'show onto weaker foot' and 'close down' but I still conceed.

My defence was #1 with Accrington Stanley, but now a mid season slump hit. I will try to see out the rest of the season with wide mids and report back.

[mesartim]

Hi, to be honest I have never had any problems with defending crosses. That could be because I always played with 2 banks of 4 in FM16 (tried 5 men flat midfield but wit no real success). I had some problems with attacking crossing but this is different story.

Anyway, I am in preseason now and a bit bored with all these 44-sth tactics. I am trying to find out how to play in the next season. I tried 4132 yesterday. I think it was for the first time ever cos I cannot recall anything from old days (i have quite a long break with FM...). I decided to play very simple and defensive (no TI's, no PI's, just fluid by mistake) having 2xWB(S), 2xCD(D), DM(D) and 3xCM D/A/S from left to right, DLF(S), AF. My opponent played pretty standard/counter 442.

I was pretty happy with my defense. Midfield, however, surprised me a lot. I understand it is narrow and lack of flanks cover etc. but I do not understand why all my 4 midfielders (3CM's ad DM) always tried to close down the same player when defending in my half of the pitch. Basically they behaved like pack of dogs chasing the stick, running from one opposition player to the other and leaving vast areas open for opposition wingers.

I lost that friendly game 2:1. I conceded both goals after crosses from deep. It was in the same way: my pack of dogs chase the ball and close down man on ball who passes to the other flank to the winger who has a lot of space and just cross from deep. I could say I was lucky because some crosses were defended, some went out of the pitch, 2 hit crossbar and 1 hit post.

Could you explain it to me why my midfielders behaved the way described above? Do I miss something?

I know, I played only once that way and it can be just sparse case, poor familiarity etc. but I feel there must be something else i simply can't see. I have never seen that kind of stupidity in my players! In fact I was so "amazed" how they played that I didn't even change anything during the game.

I do not believe that it is lack in some, mainly mental, attributes. I think I have quite decent players comparing to the rest of teams. I do not want to use OI's either. To me this is something I could use in special circumstances not on regular basis.

[Blue 4 Life]

I've ended up giving up with my 4-4-2 diamond system which allowed me to dominate FM15 and switch to a 5-4-1 diamond system. I've got so fed up conceding from crosses that I've sacrificed a striker to put an extra centre back in. I still lost the first leg of my playoff semi final 1-0, conceding from a cross! But the system works for me overall because I have good set piece takers and big, tall, commanding centre backs. It's a shame the match engine has made me resort to playing ridiculously defensive and try pinching a goal from a set piece mind!

[RTHerringbone]

It's a shame the match engine has made me resort to playing ridiculously defensive and try pinching a goal from a set piece mind!

The Match Engine hasn't forced you to resort to anything. If you look through the forum, we have plenty of people using a variety of formations, and an increasing number using more aggressive Mentalities since Cleon and Rashidi posted about Attacking systems. Any perceived crossing issue does not necessitate using a particular formation or Mentality to negate it.

It would be interesting to see a summary of the assist types of the goals you concede over a prolonged period of time.

[zZzZzZzZzZzZzZz]

I've been experimenting with a wingless 5-3-1-1 formation recently, I was getting slaughtered from crosses initially, but I found that by asking my defenders to play a very high defensive line we greatly reduced our opponents opportunities to cross.

We did concede a little more from the middle, but we conceded less overall.

[Blue 4 Life]

The Match Engine hasn't forced you to resort to anything. If you look through the forum, we have plenty of people using a variety of formations, and an increasing number using more aggressive Mentalities since Cleon and Rashidi posted about Attacking systems. Any perceived crossing issue does not necessitate using a particular formation or Mentality to negate it.

It would be interesting to see a summary of the assist types of the goals you concede over a prolonged period of time.

I can't post any screen shots now as I'm in work, but Dr Hook has confirmed the match engine on FM16 has the full backs tucking in more failing to stop crosses, so that's obviously why I'm struggling more with my 4-4-2 narrow diamond system on FM16.

I play a back 4 on defending duty, an anchor man with high stamina and work rate to cover the opposing wide men when necessary, 2 centre midfielders on support duty with high stamina and work rate, again to cover the opposing wide men and full backs when necessary, an attacking midfielder on support duty (with get forward often instruction) and my 2 strikers, usually one of them a false 9/trequartista and the other an advanced forward/poacher.

I play out from back with a normal tempo (I set a lower tempo when playing 5-4-1), short passing, retain possession, exploit the middle, force every opposing player on their weaker foot with hard tackling, closing down is set to normal, defensive line is set to normal and I play overload with my players roaming from positions.

So when attacking, my 2 centre midfielders, attacking midfielder and strikers roam and express theirselves how they want, my full backs push on when necessary to provide width and my 2 centre backs and anchor man always stay back. When defending, my full backs and 2 centre midfielders are back so I always have 7 players behind the ball, my attacking midfielder and false 9/trequartista also get back to help out when necessary.

It's a tactic which has brought me great success in previous FM's. I'm still having a bit of success on FM16 as I came 4th and am now in the playoffs. But my away form is woeful which is why I've switched to a back 5, which makes me a lot more difficult to beat, I took a few 3-0 hammerings away before switching to a back 5. The goals I concede the majority of the time are either from crosses, set pieces or long range screamers. The percentage of teams managing to put together a passing move to split me open to get through on goal to score is very low, probably because I flood the middle, which forces them wide.

[Blue 4 Life]

I've been experimenting with a wingless 5-3-1-1 formation recently, I was getting slaughtered from crosses initially, but I found that by asking my defenders to play a very high defensive line we greatly reduced our opponents opportunities to cross.

We did concede a little more from the middle, but we conceded less overall.

Cheers, that's good to know, I might try that later!

[HUNT3R]

I can't post any screen shots now as I'm in work, but Dr Hook has confirmed the match engine on FM16 has the full backs tucking in more failing to stop crosses, so that's obviously why I'm struggling more with my 4-4-2 narrow diamond system on FM16.

I play a back 4 on defending duty, an anchor man with high stamina and work rate to cover the opposing wide men when necessary, 2 centre midfielders on support duty with high stamina and work rate, again to cover the opposing wide men and full backs when necessary, an attacking midfielder on support duty (with get forward often instruction) and my 2 strikers, usually one of them a false 9/trequartista and the other an advanced forward/poacher.

I play out from back with a normal tempo (I set a lower tempo when playing 5-4-1), short passing, retain possession, exploit the middle, force every opposing player on their weaker foot with hard tackling, closing down is set to normal, defensive line is set to normal and I play overload with my players roaming from positions.

So when attacking, my 2 centre midfielders, attacking midfielder and strikers roam and express theirselves how they want, my full backs push on when necessary to provide width and my 2 centre backs and anchor man always stay back. When defending, my full backs and 2 centre midfielders are back so I always have 7 players behind the ball, my attacking midfielder and false 9/trequartista also get back to help out when necessary.

It's a tactic which has brought me great success in previous FM's. I'm still having a bit of success on FM16 as I came 4th and am now in the playoffs. But my away form is woeful which is why I've switched to a back 5, which makes me a lot more difficult to beat, I took a few 3-0 hammerings away before switching to a back 5. The goals I concede the majority of the time are either from crosses, set pieces or long range screamers. The percentage of teams managing to put together a passing move to split me open to get through on goal to score is very low, probably because I flood the middle, which forces them wide.

I also use a narrow diamond and even with a WB/A on one side and a FB/S on the other, I'm still only conceding a third of my goals through crosses.

I used OIs when I was still a relegation favourite and ended 6th out of 24. Less so now (laziness) but still predicted midtable and with my only my assistant doing OIs, I'm leading the league.

I'm not overly attacking so I have a 'normal' D-Line (neither deep, nor high) but I try not to give the wingers time on the ball.

[mesartim]

Does that mean that in narrow system the only option to survive is to use OI's? If so that I am really disappointed...

[HUNT3R]

Does that mean that in narrow system the only option to survive is to use OI's? If so that I am really disappointed...

Eh? My assistant is now handling them. Whether he does the right thing, I don't know. In fact, I'm quite sure he gets it wrong at times. Sometimes he doesn't even set OIs for the wide men. So you don't have to do anything.

I find that I can't leave wide players massively open. If this happens now, I'll change a duty to something more reserved or I'll use OIs to tight mark and close down heavily. It depends on what I see and who gets open.

[mc40]

@HUNT3R I have been avoiding OI's as I have read in other threads here that its a bad idea to use them but to rather concentrate on my own tactics. Are you using the close down always on the wingers/FBs or also the show on weak foot type OI's. I have an ass man with 17 tactical knowledge should I just let him do his thing every 25 minutes or so? I concede about 80% from crosses/corners directly or from a second ball after one. What about tight marking? I am guessing avoid that as my players will likely be skinned as I am rated worst in league and tipped to finish last.

[HUNT3R]

@HUNT3R I have been avoiding OI's as I have read in other threads here that its a bad idea to use them but to rather concentrate on my own tactics. Are you using the close down always on the wingers/FBs or also the show on weak foot type OI's. I have an ass man with 17 tactical knowledge should I just let him do his thing every 25 minutes or so? I concede about 80% from crosses/corners directly or from a second ball after one.

It's not a bad idea necessarily. OIs (like every other instruction) can help or harm your tactic.

[mc40]

It's not a bad idea necessarily. OIs (like every other instruction) can help or harm your tactic.

In your case they are helping so I am curious with all caveats understood which ones you use to neutralise the Fullbacks in particular and the wingers more generally.

[mesartim]

I am not trying to avoid OI's. I simply consider them as tool what could add something to the way I play and protect me from particular thread. I do not want to use them because system I try to play almost demands it from me.

[HUNT3R]

In your case they are helping so I am curious with all caveats understood which ones you use to neutralise the Fullbacks in particular and the wingers more generally.

I'm still conceding 1 goal in every 3 to a cross, so I'm not exactly neutralising them. I just try not to leave wide players (or any players, really) in masses of space for too long.

[HUNT3R]

I do not want to use them because system I try to play almost demands it from me.

The formation you play is weak on the flanks. This is something you need to live with or try and negate as much as you can.

[mesartim]

The formation you play is weak on the flanks. This is something you need to live with or try and negate as much as you can.

Yes I understand that. I just would be happier if system itself could help a bit with it and not work against it (as in my example above). I could understand that at times I need to cover flanks using OI's. But again I don't want to do it because system is that weak.

[johnnyyakuza78]

Yes I understand that. I just would be happier if system itself could help a bit with it and not work against it (as in my example above). I could understand that at times I need to cover flanks using OI's. But again I don't want to do it because system is that weak.

But why. If you are prepared to create a system that completely neglects defending the flanks properly, you have to be prepared for opposition wide players having all the time in the world to send off in perfect crosses.

[mesartim]

But why. If you are prepared to create a system that completely neglects defending the flanks properly, you have to be prepared for opposition wide players having all the time in the world to send off in perfect crosses.

I am not sure if I understand you correct... Do you mean that 4132 is that system or my test 4132 system above? As I mentioned I have no experience with the system/formation and again, I agree, formation is weak on flanks, but if it is typical that midfielders behave in such a stupid way I saw I just see no point why I should use it. ME should know that we play narrow formation, defensively (even more narrow) so should be able to spread CM's better horizontally (? sorry I never know if it is correct) and try at least to cover some ground. In my example they all tried to cover the same square foot of the pitch.

And not to confuse anybody I generally accept possibly problems on flanks. I am just surprise the problem is that big!

[johnnyyakuza78]

The problem is, that your tactics screen shows your defensive position. Thats the area your midfielders will look to go to when they don't have the ball. In a narrow 4132, all your midfielders will sit narrowly inside the pitch, leaving space on the flanks. That is a risk you have to accept. You can of course give the midfielders roles and instructions that will cause them to leave that position, such as closing down more etc. But they are really just doing what you tell them to.

[mesartim]

The problem is, that your tactics screen shows your defensive position. Thats the area your midfielders will look to go to when they don't have the ball. In a narrow 4132, all your midfielders will sit narrowly inside the pitch, leaving space on the flanks. That is a risk you have to accept. You can of course give the midfielders roles and instructions that will cause them to leave that position, such as closing down more etc. But they are really just doing what you tell them to.

Ok, I understand that. In my test formation I used DM(D) and 3xCM D/A/S from left to right with no PI's and no TI's. Could you please tell me what I told them to do (heh, strange question...)? What I think is I did not tell them to gather together and have a party in our half. I would rather expect that at least 2 of them try to cover other parts of the ground (of course pretty narrow, not to hag the line). Am I wrong in my assumption?

[Guest]

I am actually curious, the last 50 games I have conceded 25 goals of which 7 were from crosses, what are everybody elses stats?

[mesartim]

I cannot tell you the correct number at the moment but it was not that many to be concerned about and I played 4141

I have just encountered strange behavior of my midfielders that I do not understand and it was in one and only match I tried to play using the plain and simple 4132 system. The problem can potentially lead to many goals from crosses.

I would like to know if it was just something odd or such strange behavior is build in the system that uses these roles/duties in the midfield.

[Guest]

I cannot tell you the correct number at the moment but it was not that many to be concerned about and I played 4141

I have just encountered strange behavior of my midfielders that I do not understand and it was in one and only match I tried to play using the plain and simple 4132 system. The problem can potentially lead to many goals from crosses.

I would like to know if it was just something odd or such strange behavior is build in the system that uses these roles/duties in the midfield.

Well the obvious answer lies in your system, I play a control tactic and push up higher and play an offsides trap. Now I realised that the majority of my conceded goals would come from balls through the middle that would eventually catch my defenders out and there are some games where I lose or draw to another team where they have scored a goal from only one shot on target. But that is the crux, you are going to concede from the weakness of your tactic, how you negate that is how you make your tactic work defensively.

[Dr. Hook]

I am actually curious, the last 50 games I have conceded 25 goals of which 7 were from crosses, what are everybody elses stats?

16/45 (35%) for me, which is pretty much in line with what you'd expect to see. Conversely, since I use wingerless formations, I have scored 20/70 (28%). Nothing untoward there. It is as RT said- the way they look can be jarring and they stick in the memory, but the actual incidences goals from crosses are not really out of whack.

[mesartim]

I am actually curious, the last 50 games I have conceded 25 goals of which 7 were from crosses, what are everybody elses stats?

Just to update: 12/33 (37%) and scored 33/79 (42%). Not that bad I think (still mostly 4141 formation)

I've just noticed strange thing... Do you know where is correct number of crosses in match statistics? Match Stats shows 11/52 but Team Analysis only 11/37 (sum of completed, intercepted, out of play and hit woodwork).

[Ricky Riccardo]

Well I got sacked near the end of the season, tried everything but kept conceeding from crosses. Far post, the attacker gets in behind my defender regardless of who or what instruction is set.

I will try football league one now and use a 5-4-1 & 4-5-1 just to figure out how to stop crosses.

At this point, I'd rather lose 50-0 and conceed them all in the middle than win 2-1 conceeding a cross.

[herne79]

Well I got sacked near the end of the season, tried everything but kept conceeding from crosses. Far post, the attacker gets in behind my defender regardless of who or what instruction is set.

I will try football league one now and use a 5-4-1 & 4-5-1 just to figure out how to stop crosses.

At this point, I'd rather lose 50-0 and conceed them all in the middle than win 2-1 conceeding a cross.

If you (or anyone else) believes crossing is somehow overpowered, and you think it is nothing to do with your own tactical system, then you should post constructively (with example match pkms) in the Bugs Forum.

[noikeee]

And here's a quick link to the extensive thread on it.

[Ricky Riccardo]

If you (or anyone else) believes crossing is somehow overpowered, and you think it is nothing to do with your own tactical system, then you should post constructively (with example match pkms) in the Bugs Forum.

The game just hates me. The ai never missed a pen against me, yet I only scored 20% of mine.

I'm undecided if crosses are OP yet, I won't post my stuff becauseI like to figure it out on my own. I was just looking to see if this was a bug.

[RTHerringbone]

And here's a quick link to the extensive thread on it.

The most pertinent comment from SI therein is:

As in real life, the number of goals scored and conceded by crosses is influenced by tactics and players used. For instance, a narrow formation will likely result in more space out wide for the opposition to exploit. Crosses in the current ME are very slightly higher than real life, however their accuracy is lower, which means we are seeing a pretty accurate reflection of goals scored from wide areas. If you're seeing instances of teams consistently scoring from crosses then please do upload Save Games, PKMs and times that they occur. It may come down to a defensive bug rather than too many crosses in general. Cheers.

[RTHerringbone]

The game just hates me. The ai never missed a pen against me, yet I only scored 20% of mine.

I'm undecided if crosses are OP yet, I won't post my stuff becauseI like to figure it out on my own. I was just looking to see if this was a bug.

In game penalty conversion rates are something SI are happy with, they mirror real life.

[skam]

What is the regular number of crosses per game IRL? And what number of crosses should happen during a game in FM? Because I've noticed that each game I play both teams make about 30 or even more crosses. I don't know exactly what IS and what IS NOT considered as a cross by the game, but I think that even if the ME misrecognized some passess as a crossess, still 60 crossess per game is a huge number, to say the least.

I play 4-3-2 with two FB on attack duty, so I get it that my number of crossess is understandable (though I give instructions to FBs to cut inside plus I sometimes use shout Work the ball into the box). Let's even presume that my opponents mostly play 4-4-2 or similar, which makes the crossing easier. But even so I thnik the number of crossess seems too high.

Other than than - I found out that deep crosses from FBs to the far post are way too overpowered. Don't get me wrong, I have results and I both score some and concede some from such crossess - but it gets ridiculous after some time.

[South-Side]

What i've found funny is that my tactic worked with 2 fullbacks attacking and wingers on support for more than half a season (end of february exactly). I'm playing a 4-4-2 and i bought 2 good full backs (Byram from Leeds and Kavanagh from Fulham). No odd amount of goals conceded from crosses , guys defended well in the middle and on the wings, even though on the counter they were caught out of position. As a newly promoted team in the EPL i was sitting comfortably in an unpredictable position on the 5th place.

And then, in mid february a mysterious virus struck. Full backs don't defend anything, they are overpowered by most teams i play with. rating dropped to abysmal time and time again. And my center backs can't seem to decide what to do and how to defend the area. No changes in tactic, same people in the defense, no tweaks no nothing. Everybody forgot all of the sudden how to play. Made the fb more defensive , tweaked the defensive line, tried to fix it but in vain. Somebody built two highways on my wings, and i can't seem to shut them down.

Same season,same guys,same tactic...

[HUNT3R]

Same season,same guys,same tactic...

... opponents handling you differently.

[Guest]

What is the regular number of crosses per game IRL? And what number of crosses should happen during a game in FM? Because I've noticed that each game I play both teams make about 30 or even more crosses. I don't know exactly what IS and what IS NOT considered as a cross by the game, but I think that even if the ME misrecognized some passess as a crossess, still 60 crossess per game is a huge number, to say the least.

I play 4-3-2 with two FB on attack duty, so I get it that my number of crossess is understandable (though I give instructions to FBs to cut inside plus I sometimes use shout Work the ball into the box). Let's even presume that my opponents mostly play 4-4-2 or similar, which makes the crossing easier. But even so I thnik the number of crossess seems too high.

Other than than - I found out that deep crosses from FBs to the far post are way too overpowered. Don't get me wrong, I have results and I both score some and concede some from such crossess - but it gets ridiculous after some time.

Playing with 9 outfielders is a definite problem defensively.

[mc40]

I'm still conceding 1 goal in every 3 to a cross, so I'm not exactly neutralising them. I just try not to leave wide players (or any players, really) in masses of space for too long.

Fair enough, I think I'll experiment with OI closing down instruction and see how that impacts the play.

[South-Side]

... opponents handling you differently.

All of them at once ? Are they holding secret clan meetings where they show how to beat my team ?

Seriously now:

I mean i do not have high expectations with : Man Utd, Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Tottenham and Arsenal. For my first season in the EPL and the quality of the players at their disposal it's clear that a good result can't be expected most of the times.

But others which my team dominated for half a season , all of the sudden got ridiculously good playing the same tactics as before and the defense got ridiculously bad playing the same tactics.

Oh well, back to the drawing board then...

[Bitner]

Wheni was conceding from crosses with a 4-1-4-1with 2 defensive wingers and closing down and pressing opposing wingers AND closing down the full backs, i just couldn't understand what i could do more.

Then i left the team.

Cheers,

Bitner

[HUNT3R]

All of them at once ? Are they holding secret clan meetings where they show how to beat my team ?

Seriously now:

I mean i do not have high expectations with : Man Utd, Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Tottenham and Arsenal. For my first season in the EPL and the quality of the players at their disposal it's clear that a good result can't be expected most of the times.

But others which my team dominated for half a season , all of the sudden got ridiculously good playing the same tactics as before and the defense got ridiculously bad playing the same tactics.

Oh well, back to the drawing board then...

"Hey, they dominated us the first time and doing amazingly well in the league. Maybe we should be a bit more cautious this time around."

Why would it be unrealistic for most teams to think this?

[loklokno123]

i discover that AI always have problems when defending throw in

the main source of dangerous crossing is from throw in

Throw in->->switch flank->cross->goal

when opposite team has throw in the left flank, the opposite flank(right flank) of the pitch is totally empty, even i tell my winger to mark opposite full back

but both full back, winger stay at the central area and leave lots of space for opposite full back to cross

this is the most annoying situation for me

sorry for my english

if u dont understand

i am happy to explain more