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How to effectively use Martial in a 1 STC tactic?


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Still on my Man U save where I ideally wanted to play Martial on my left wing, due to multiple injuries i need to play him on STC. It's just weird though, because his PPMs are clearly those of a number 9 role, and he also has poor to average team-related mentals/passing so no F9/treq role for him. So i had to resort to asking for your wisdom!

The issue though is that playing a 9 in a "lone" STC position is very awkward and he often finds himself isolated. I tried the following:

AF: On paper it's by far the best choice but he often ends up drifting to the flanks and i don't really need that because i already have 2 players there.

CF(A): Similar to Advanced Forward. Doesn't feel as effective as CF(S) and his PPMs doesn't really suit the support duty

DLF(A): On paper this would be my 2nd pref choice, but well this just won't do I guess. Thought it would be a very viable choice but he ends up playing with back to goal more often than i wanted, dribbling much less even with the PI and not making use of his insane quickness.

I'm a Poacher hater and i didn't even bother trying it out because even if it turns to be the only role that works i'm probably better off splashing the cash on Harry Kane to be a luxurious bench warmer for my strikers. I just don't like the idea of having a player 100% focused on scoring even if he's a number 9. I hope you guys help me figure this out :)

Also is it worth to leave the IF on attack duty with a 9 on the STC?

Tactics:

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Getting effectiveness from a player is not about him in isolation, it is all about the team as a cohesive whole. You can try Martial in every Role available, but if he isn't getting the correct sort of interplay and support from his team mates, it's like ******* in the wind. Think first about how you want the team to play, and then it should become clearer. At least try to articulate how you want the pieces of the puzzle to hang together, and we can help out accordingly.

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Getting effectiveness from a player is not about him in isolation, it is all about the team as a cohesive whole. You can try Martial in every Role available, but if he isn't getting the correct sort of interplay and support from his team mates, it's like ******* in the wind. Think first about how you want the team to play, and then it should become clearer. At least try to articulate how you want the pieces of the puzzle to hang together, and we can help out accordingly.

But... i thought you figured with my print scr? It's my base tactic. The STC is the link-up guy in that tactic which is why everything i tried was **** in the wind. I need to give that role to someone else in order to bring a number 9 in the STC. Which should be the topic's more adequate title.

If I follow that logic you'll suggest me using an AMC (not really interested in that) or a more attack-minded role in the CM in order to make AF role to work slightly better I guess? Having 2 advanced playmakers sounds really odd tho so we'd switch the AMR to IF(S) as well, else they'd ignore my short passing TI too often and end up doing exactly what i'm trying to avoid which is to pump the ball to the striker for him to run at 2 midfielders and 4 defenders when we win back possession. Will try it and post results...

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Going off the screenshot you've provided I'd suggest putting Fellani as the DLFs or possibly switching it to a F9 and playing Mata there. (You'd probably want to change the right winger role too if using a F9)

As it seems this is a result of injuries then it might be a case of what LVG has done this season and play whoever is fit....and having some tactical flexibility in how you set your team up.

As to the question of how to use Martial in the above system then I'd probably got with the Trequartista/Advanced Forward role. That'd be influenced by how the opposition are defending. If they're deep then I'd use the Trq to try and pull them out of possition. If they're high up then the AF to get in behind.

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I use same formation as you do and my striker is CF(s) and for me it's the best role in this 4-1-2-3 formation. However, it's not ManU and not Martial. What CF(s) demands is a good passing, decisions and decent vision. And Martial is more of AF to me.

Other formation I use is 4-2-3-1 and in this formation I go with CF(a), although I believe that in this setup, AF(a) could be OK solution as well - he has more support around him and he doesn't get so isolated.

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