Away games influence

[Wells]

I just want to say that I feel away games are much harder than it seems.. I have had a very big side until 21/22.. Counting all my career stats lost games, 98% losses is away games.. I am not into debate or questioning but I just feel like away games are influenced too much anyway.. even a small side example Walsall will become like Barcelona type team and you will just have to wonder.

Comparing that into IRL I watch almost every premier league game given they are scheduled different times and so nothing sort of that happen like it happens in FM for away games which is a bit unrealistic... I know that I wouldn't expect FM to be 100% like IRL but I just feel it's too much.

I will say big thanks to SI for this fantastic game which I enjoy and spent thousands of hours of my time into since FM 10.

[santy001]

AI teams approach home and away games very differently, this does mean as a player you also have to do the same. I'm actually much better at winning away games than I am at home games, my cautious counter attacking formations work far better away from home and I've never quite nailed down taking the initiative at home on this years FM. It all depends on your mentality, but a lot of people tend to want to be the dominating swashbuckling side, which naturally lends itself more to playing at home than away.

[OrientTillIDie]

Snap. My away form is sensational because teams try to attack me and so long as nobody drops a clanger then I can usually weather the storm and score a goal with one of my few chances. On my Orient save in my first season in League 2, I only lost two away games all year and both of those were down to individual error.

[YOUNGSTEVE]

My problem is home games rather than away one, which I find a lot easier. Probably like the post above says, is away the AI tries to attack more leading to more chances to counter them.

[le_crab]

To the original poster, it's your tactics and probably your in match decisions. I had problems playing away but through constantly tweeking during the game and identifying problems my away form isn't to different from my home.

[HUNT3R]

Overly aggressive systems can have this effect. Decent at home, but becomes a complete gamble when the opponent is a bit more adventurous themselves in front of their home fans. The tactic I currently have isn't overly attacking and so I can employ it in almost any match, be it a big team or a small team, home or away.

[Svenc]

You never need to necessarily hugely change specifically for home/away though AI teams tend to play more aggressively at home so if you aim to hit teams of the counter this will be more feasibly away typically. Simple matter of fact though is that human players tend to play as aggressively as any AI does when going fully desperate overload late in the match at best. Taking a look around, 9 out of 10 tactical downloads influencing people are more aggressive than this, and they're applied from minute 1 to 90. This is mainly all about the roles and duty setup governing attacking movement, attack duties all over the shop, wing backs everywhere, limited number of defend duties holding their positions covering movement, clearly visibly when in possession. Out of this is born the "cheating AI" myth, bad teams turning "Barcelona", etc.. This can be a problem at home too if the AI tries to lure you out and then hit you on the counter depending on which. Watch that match play but for 30 seconds. If they're on multiple forwards, they hit it towards them upon intercepting and counter, as those forwards don't track back. Any crap team will score additionally goals if gifted space such ways. It's often surprisingly basic issues.

Aside of that above tactics there's a slight home bias coded in for sure, as tactics alone doesn't explain how in pretty much each league it's always but a selected few teams who have even or positive W-D-L records away, this goes for goal margins too. Last Bundesliga season that applied to but three teams, for instance. Whilst a negative or even record at home is often times a telltale sign of a relegation combatant. Similarily, outside of pish teams who don't collect many points full stop and tend to collect their wins by increased amounts of random chance/luck simply, in the long term you'll never witness a side winning the majority of its points away, whilst when Dortmund were almost relegated in 99, the collected like 30+ points at home, but a miserably 10 or less away. There is such a thing as home bias, ask Matthew Benham who's making a living out of predicting this kind of stuff. The home and away tables you can view mostly compare surprisingly well to real life tables, even taking into account that AI underdogs in match ups arguably far too readily just "try to shut up shop" by barely advancing anyone and dropping off often in a way that imo doesn't happen in real football at such frequency.