wazza Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Just joined the Russian First Division with a team in the middle of a relegation battle. Trying to sign some players which the other Russian club have accepted a bid for - two players wont talk to me as the say 'he feels maximum wage allowed due to the competition rules is too low' In the competition rules it does not state that I am only allowed to offer so much of my wage budget and on the transfer negotiation screen my available transfer budget is £6.1 mill and wage budget £3.77 mill of which I am only spending £2.22 mill. The two players existing contracts are £90k wage + bonuses etc per annum and £55k + bonuses etc and considering I can move my transfer budget across to my wage budget I cannot understand what the players are talking about with there comments as nothing else in the game indicates that there is a maximum wage for the competition I am in. The players I have brought in cost £1.1mil and £50k so I definately have enough money to pay for them Has anyone played in the Russian First Divsion who could shed any light on this and explain what they mean and also if there is a cap on the comp rules wages in Russia and if so what screen I can find it on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazza Posted March 27, 2016 Author Share Posted March 27, 2016 Following investigating the issue it looks like there is a salary cap in the Russian League. However in the competition rules it doesn't state this nor say what the capping rules are - when I offer other players a salary I am only allowed to offer £36k per annum no matter of the squad status - so it is capped. However when I look at my contracts of the exisitng players around 5-6 of them are on a salary of between £300k - 100k and others on a wage above the cap. Does anyone know anything about Russian Football to explain the league rules in particular the salary capping rules - Ive tried to google it but got nowhere and it isn't stated on the competition rules within the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrlee.1986 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 (Admittedly) This is a longshot guess, but would the board be capping the wage you can offer because of the relegation battle and possibly covering themselves from having a highly paid player in a lower division if you/they get relegated? You didn't say as much but I'm assuming your mid-season so it might be the board putting restrictions on you? Have you tried selling someone you don't need and then seeing if the available wage increases? (I know you said it's not the budget but it's worth an attempt) Either that or maybe this found on Google has been implimented in game already... "On August 10, the Russian Football Union (RFU) introduced draft financial regulations, which are supposed to set up a salary cap in the Russian league. In particular, it is proposed to limit the maximum monthly salary of players to 2 million rubles ($31,000)." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazza Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 (Admittedly) This is a longshot guess, but would the board be capping the wage you can offer because of the relegation battle and possibly covering themselves from having a highly paid player in a lower division if you/they get relegated? You didn't say as much but I'm assuming your mid-season so it might be the board putting restrictions on you?Have you tried selling someone you don't need and then seeing if the available wage increases? (I know you said it's not the budget but it's worth an attempt) Either that or maybe this found on Google has been implimented in game already... "On August 10, the Russian Football Union (RFU) introduced draft financial regulations, which are supposed to set up a salary cap in the Russian league. In particular, it is proposed to limit the maximum monthly salary of players to 2 million rubles ($31,000)." I've tried selling all my top earners who were on £300k - £100k and it was still only £36k I could offer. I do believe it has something to do with the RFU thing that you have found on google as that is the only information I found on it, however it doesn't say anything in the competition rules about it. I have asked now in the research data forum in the bugs section for clarity as that article also said 'For young players, the proposed limit is even more stringent; those under 21 will not be able to receive more than 150,000 rubles ($2,320) per month and 10 million per year ($155,000), bonuses included. For players aged between 21 to 23, the monthly limit will be 300,000 rubles ($4,640), and 5 million ($232,000) per year, bonuses included" I have tried to sign a player aged 21-23 and I still can only offer £36k per year for them - unlike what it says in the article. (Looking at the rules in the article it also seems weird how players 21-23 can earn $232 where as more experienced players can earn less!! Furthermore I have just tried re-newing some of the contracts for my top earners and it allow me to offer upto £385k. This is way over the £36k I am allowed for transfers making me now believe there isn't a salary cap and more confused to what is going on as if its your first idea of the board capping the wages - surely I wouldnt be allowed to offer large contracts to existing players and if its the salary cap it also doesn't work out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I imagine existing contracts can be extended without abiding by the new rules, as for the allowed wage did you remove all bonuses as they are included in the rules you've posted? Do you have a link to where that text game from? It contains clear errors as neither annual figures match the monthly figures so it does bring the validity on that extract into question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazza Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 I imagine existing contracts can be extended without abiding by the new rules, as for the allowed wage did you remove all bonuses as they are included in the rules you've posted?Do you have a link to where that text game from? It contains clear errors as neither annual figures match the monthly figures so it does bring the validity on that extract into question. The link is here http://rbth.com/sport/2015/11/03/take-a-gues-how-justified-are-salaries-of-rusian-players_536669 Im just trying to work out the rules and if there is a cap as when Ive tested it in the Russian Premier League they have more wages available in the top team and these can be reduced or increased depending upon squad status and also if you put across some of your transfer budget into your wage budget. However when I do this and have a 7mill wage budget with my team in the First Division I can only still offer £36k and this is for all squad statuses - so the club has the money but the game or some ruling is stopping me using it. Some players who I try to sign won't talk to me as they say " they feel the maximum wage allowed due to competition rules is too low' Its getting quite frustrating working out the rules are especially as SI have not stated in the league competition rules what these rules are and on the net when I google them there is nothing set in stone only talk of a 'proposed' salary cap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Based on the rules you've linked you can pay whatever you like to players over 23's so unless the board allowed wages are being heavily restricted for over 23's it makes sense as you could have a squad made up highly paid older players & the board are budgeting for that possibility. Having though more about those wage limits the numbers might make sense, the basic weekly wage is restricted as described & the annual limit is to account for performance, competition & appearance bonuses. If that's the case it would be interesting to see what happens of you offer players high value bonus clauses & they reach the annual limit before the end of the season. I'm also working on the basis that the person who wrote that article put the 5m & 10m values in the wrong place & they should be the other way round, won't be the first or last time that an error has sneaked passed proof readers. If the rules are in FM & contract offer screen does not highlight the max wage rules then it's worth raising as a bug in the transfers & contract section. Edit: Actually as these are proposed rules might not even exist irl so you/we could be barking up the wrong tree which means it's back to the usual list of causes, what are your wage projections for next season? Do you have a lot of future contracts that will push the limits of your budget? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazza Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 Based on the rules you've linked you can pay whatever you like to players over 23's so unless the board allowed wages are being heavily restricted for over 23's it makes sense as you could have a squad made up highly paid older players & the board are budgeting for that possibility.Having though more about those wage limits the numbers might make sense, the basic weekly wage is restricted as described & the annual limit is to account for performance, competition & appearance bonuses. If that's the case it would be interesting to see what happens of you offer players high value bonus clauses & they reach the annual limit before the end of the season. I'm also working on the basis that the person who wrote that article put the 5m & 10m values in the wrong place & they should be the other way round, won't be the first or last time that an error has sneaked passed proof readers. If the contract offer screen does not highlight the max wage rules then it's worth raising as a bug in the transfers & contract section. The board or rules are restricting all wages to £36k no matter there age squad status or even if I increase the wage budget to £7million. Ive asked in the league specific forum to try and find out the rules as the research i've done doesnt seem to match the game. So would like to know what rules SI have put in, I've also reported that the rules are not stated in the competions rules screen Ive also found other information that states that the wage is salary capped to a % of the income of the club. So really need to know the rules SI have implemented for these leagues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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