Wengerball

[Kawee]

Foreword

I decided to start a new save with Arsenal, as I always do at some point. Many probably already know this, but FM16 has a new trick up it's sleeve. When you start a new save at a club, sometimes it moves the manager to the Director of Football role. You can of course ask the person to be removed, but I saw Arsene Wenger as DoF as an exciting role-play save opportunity. The idea has been discussed among Arsenal fans many times before. There are those who think Wenger's best attributes suit the role anyway (scouting, club development, player attraction, etc) and then there are those who think keeping him in any form would simply be too big a shadow for the next manager.

Obviously, I rolled with the former. Wenger is my DoF, and for role-play reason, I oblige by his advice on things such as who to buy, who to loan, squad management, etc. Just to simulate that Wenger-effect.

On the tactics side, I've decided to create a tactic that brings different aspect of Wenger's various teams throughout 20 years, together, into one Wengerball tactic. It'll be the only tactic I will use because I'm playing by the rhetoric of "Arsenal have no plan B." So, this save will be a one-size-fit-all-plug-and-play save. Of course, Wenger's teams throughout the years are quite different, and trying to mesh them together, can lead to a pretty incoherent tactic. This is where this thread comes in.

The Tactic









The Inspiration

- The Graham Back 5. Wenger inherited the Graham back-5, and that backline, while old, was very organized, and played a mean offside trap. They also didn't play by the now common stopper/cover combo. Just one flat backline.

- Control Possession Football - It is quite easy to see that I've gone for this type of football. The reason being that everyone, me included, have bemoaned Wenger for moving away from the fast, powerful, and direct style of football to this. I want to make this work for the old man. "Work Ball into the Box" only picked because "Walk Ball into the Net" isn't available.

- Freedom of Expression - It is well known now that Wenger's style of management is one of players' freedom. He gives his players the freedom to express themselves, that's why many like to play for him. It's why we've seen some beautiful chemistry. It's also why Arsenal can seem disorganized and unprepared, and why Arsenal relies on confidence more than most big teams. "More Expressive" and "Roam from Positions" are both picked, and the front 5 all have "RFP" as PI. Do I know what Coquelin and Giroud and Walcott will do with all this freedom? No I don't, but neither does Wenger, and it hasn't deterred him.

- High Defensive Line - How often have seen Arsenal undone by their high defensive line? Need to have this as it's been a key part of Wenger's teams.

- The B2B - Such a classic role during Wenger's successful years, and the engine for all his great teams. A must have.

- The Left Flank - Would be a crime to try and recreate Wengerball without recreating that left flank. The support IF, attack WB, and roaming striker is such a classic combo, and it worked wonderfully for him. I wanted to put the RPM on the central-left so that the buildup is focused on the left, but that wouldn't be the Invincibles left flank, because it was Vieira who was always on the left. So, had to keep the B2B there.

- The 1-2 Central Midfield - This is inspired by Arsenal's run to the UCL final. It was the only season I can recall where Wenger played a 1-2 central midfield throughout the entire season. I was tempted to recreate this with an anchorman, as inspired by Gilberto Silva, of course. However, when given the chance, Wenger encouraged Alex Song to play like Pirlo, so I opted for DM support instead, so Coquelin can do Song things.

- The Cesc Role - That is of course, the roaming playmaker. I still believe that the Cesc era was easily the single most 1-man-team of any Wenger's team. I've never seen us relied so much on one player for so many things. Cesc would start moves, everything would flow through him, and he'd have to be at the end of plays as well. Not only that, but he was also the captain! The RPM is the only role that can come close to recreating Cesc's role, even if I'm not happy with it having "dribble more" but at least Ozil is a great dribbler. He is the only playmaker in the team, so that he gets as much of the ball as possible, just like Cesc.

- The Right Winger - I thought about playing the Raumdeuter here to recreate the Ljungberg role. Walcott would have been perfect for this, but ironically, it is also Walcott that made me rethink. The most productive season by a Wenger right winger is not actually any of Ljungberg's, but Walcott's 2012/13 when he stayed injury free, played as a proper winger providing width, runs, and passes. He finished that season with 14 goals and 12 assists in the league.

- The Target Man - I wanted to make sure that I have an aspect of the modern team in here. I think one of the defining characteristic of the modern Wenger's team is that due to not being able to sign anyone better than Giroud, we've basically been playing with a targetman as our main striker for 3-4 years. So that's what I've recreated here with the DLF support role.

Result

Everything went quite well. I won both the EPL and the UCL in my first season.

My concerns so far

1. The team doesn't score many goals. I didn't even reach the 80 goal mark I was hoping for in the league. Both the striker and the left IF didn't score enough. Will need to figure out how to get those two scoring a bit more. I might change the DLF to attack, but that would be more like the RvP years, and there'd be nothing from the modern era.

2. I concede quite a bit from crosses. Need to sort that out. I feel like the crossers are being adequately pressured, but the CBs are not dealing with it very well. I'm not sure how to approach this, so for the 2nd season, I'll just buy better defenders.

Any thoughts and constructive criticisms are very welcomed. If you do, please keep in mind that I'm not trying to create an all conquering tactic. I'm trying to improve the tactic, while still staying true to Wengerball. Please make reference to any Wenger Arsenal team if you're going to suggest a change. For example, I'm quite tempted to try Cazorla in the right-winger role to recreate the Hleb role.

Cheers.

[Ö-zil to the Arsenal!]

Nice idea I assume you're saving money by sticking with Flamini as your holding midfielder!

That looks like a nicely balanced approach and should work well. The only tweak I would suggest is to add a primary goalscorer. Your front 3 is a winger, a deep forward and a supporting inside forward. Should work well enough but lacks penetration to be truely devastating (perhaps that's what you're going for with some of our teams in recent memory?!).

Your winger role is important but perhaps you could play a more attacking role either centrally or on the left. Alternatively, let Bellerin provide the width as a right wingback and use your AMR to attack?

In my experience managing Arsenal, you've got a bit of work to do in the transfer market to build a top, top team. I typically build upon Sanchez, Ozil, Bellerin, Cech and, initially, Cazorla and try to improve elsewhere.

[gunnerfan]

I'll be interested to see the progress you make. Please keep us updated.

[James9]

Foreword

I decided to start a new save with Arsenal, as I always do at some point. Many probably already know this, but FM16 has a new trick up it's sleeve. When you start a new save at a club, sometimes it moves the manager to the Director of Football role. You can of course ask the person to be removed, but I saw Arsene Wenger as DoF as an exciting role-play save opportunity. The idea has been discussed among Arsenal fans many times before. There are those who think Wenger's best attributes suit the role anyway (scouting, club development, player attraction, etc) and then there are those who think keeping him in any form would simply be too big a shadow for the next manager.

Obviously, I rolled with the former. Wenger is my DoF, and for role-play reason, I oblige by his advice on things such as who to buy, who to loan, squad management, etc. Just to simulate that Wenger-effect.

On the tactics side, I've decided to create a tactic that brings different aspect of Wenger's various teams throughout 20 years, together, into one Wengerball tactic. It'll be the only tactic I will use because I'm playing by the rhetoric of "Arsenal have no plan B." So, this save will be a one-size-fit-all-plug-and-play save. Of course, Wenger's teams throughout the years are quite different, and trying to mesh them together, can lead to a pretty incoherent tactic. This is where this thread comes in.

The Tactic









The Inspiration

- The Graham Back 5. Wenger inherited the Graham back-5, and that backline, while old, was very organized, and played a mean offside trap. They also didn't play by the now common stopper/cover combo. Just one flat backline.

- Control Possession Football - It is quite easy to see that I've gone for this type of football. The reason being that everyone, me included, have bemoaned Wenger for moving away from the fast, powerful, and direct style of football to this. I want to make this work for the old man. "Work Ball into the Box" only picked because "Walk Ball into the Net" isn't available.

- Freedom of Expression - It is well known now that Wenger's style of management is one of players' freedom. He gives his players the freedom to express themselves, that's why many like to play for him. It's why we've seen some beautiful chemistry. It's also why Arsenal can seem disorganized and unprepared, and why Arsenal relies on confidence more than most big teams. "More Expressive" and "Roam from Positions" are both picked, and the front 5 all have "RFP" as PI. Do I know what Coquelin and Giroud and Walcott will do with all this freedom? No I don't, but neither does Wenger, and it hasn't deterred him.

- High Defensive Line - How often have seen Arsenal undone by their high defensive line? Need to have this as it's been a key part of Wenger's teams.

- The B2B - Such a classic role during Wenger's successful years, and the engine for all his great teams. A must have.

- The Left Flank - Would be a crime to try and recreate Wengerball without recreating that left flank. The support IF, attack WB, and roaming striker is such a classic combo, and it worked wonderfully for him. I wanted to put the RPM on the central-left so that the buildup is focused on the left, but that wouldn't be the Invincibles left flank, because it was Vieira who was always on the left. So, had to keep the B2B there.

- The 1-2 Central Midfield - This is inspired by Arsenal's run to the UCL final. It was the only season I can recall where Wenger played a 1-2 central midfield throughout the entire season. I was tempted to recreate this with an anchorman, as inspired by Gilberto Silva, of course. However, when given the chance, Wenger encouraged Alex Song to play like Pirlo, so I opted for DM support instead, so Coquelin can do Song things.

- The Cesc Role - That is of course, the roaming playmaker. I still believe that the Cesc era was easily the single most 1-man-team of any Wenger's team. I've never seen us relied so much on one player for so many things. Cesc would start moves, everything would flow through him, and he'd have to be at the end of plays as well. Not only that, but he was also the captain! The RPM is the only role that can come close to recreating Cesc's role, even if I'm not happy with it having "dribble more" but at least Ozil is a great dribbler. He is the only playmaker in the team, so that he gets as much of the ball as possible, just like Cesc.

- The Right Winger - I thought about playing the Raumdeuter here to recreate the Ljungberg role. Walcott would have been perfect for this, but ironically, it is also Walcott that made me rethink. The most productive season by a Wenger right winger is not actually any of Ljungberg's, but Walcott's 2012/13 when he stayed injury free, played as a proper winger providing width, runs, and passes. He finished that season with 14 goals and 12 assists in the league.

- The Target Man - I wanted to make sure that I have an aspect of the modern team in here. I think one of the defining characteristic of the modern Wenger's team is that due to not being able to sign anyone better than Giroud, we've basically been playing with a targetman as our main striker for 3-4 years. So that's what I've recreated here with the DLF support role.

Result

Everything went quite well. I won both the EPL and the UCL in my first season.

My concerns so far

1. The team doesn't score many goals. I didn't even reach the 80 goal mark I was hoping for in the league. Both the striker and the left IF didn't score enough. Will need to figure out how to get those two scoring a bit more. I might change the DLF to attack, but that would be more like the RvP years, and there'd be nothing from the modern era.

2. I concede quite a bit from crosses. Need to sort that out. I feel like the crossers are being adequately pressured, but the CBs are not dealing with it very well. I'm not sure how to approach this, so for the 2nd season, I'll just buy better defenders.

Any thoughts and constructive criticisms are very welcomed. If you do, please keep in mind that I'm not trying to create an all conquering tactic. I'm trying to improve the tactic, while still staying true to Wengerball. Please make reference to any Wenger Arsenal team if you're going to suggest a change. For example, I'm quite tempted to try Cazorla in the right-winger role to recreate the Hleb role.

Cheers.

Cazorla could play the Hlen role but I am sure about him as a Winger. From what I can remember he is not very quick at all. I am intrested in this thread especially Ozil playing as a Roaming Playmaker. How do you find its performance in this role.

[onetopic]

Scoring 80 goals in 38 league matches gives you around 2goals average pr league game. Which is a must in my eyes as a minimum.

You managed to win the league with just above 70 goals amazes me, specially since you let in as much as 23 goals. You manage to take allot of narrow wins such as 1-0/2-1 wins?

I love the idea of having Wenger as Dof, sound really fun. I might go play around with this idea. Thanks!

[Kawee]

Cazorla could play the Hlen role but I am sure about him as a Winger. From what I can remember he is not very quick at all. I am intrested in this thread especially Ozil playing as a Roaming Playmaker. How do you find its performance in this role.

Hleb wasn't very quick either. Cazorla in the Hleb role is considered for when I want to mix things up, and playing an attacking role down the left instead.

Ozil as RPM has turned out very well. He was top 5 in the league in terms of average ratings last year. This is his stats, so far, this season:

Hasn't had many goals or assists, but not bad either. His high ratings obviously stems of three things:

1. 4.5 key passes per game

2. 3.6 dribbles per game

3. 3 interceptions per game

So, he's doing exactly what I want him to do. He is being the glue that sticks the backline and frontline together. Most things flow through him, which is intentional, as I made him the sole playmaker in the team. He does good things with the ball, and actually contributes defensively.

[Kawee]

Scoring 80 goals in 38 league matches gives you around 2goals average pr league game. Which is a must in my eyes as a minimum.

You managed to win the league with just above 70 goals amazes me, specially since you let in as much as 23 goals. You manage to take allot of narrow wins such as 1-0/2-1 wins?

I love the idea of having Wenger as Dof, sound really fun. I might go play around with this idea. Thanks!

Yeah, that's why I need to improve my attack. I'm looking for more from my striker, my B2B, and my left IF. I've made some changes to the tactic, and will give it another season before reporting back the results.

Having Wenger as DoF is actually quite fun, if you stay committed. He signed Aleix Vidal from Barcelona for me, so I had to sell Per Mertersacker, to make room lol. I adds a sense of randomness and unpredictability to the game, in contrast to the total control most people demand and are used to. Can't wait to see what else he dreams up.

[James9]

Hleb wasn't very quick either. Cazorla in the Hleb role is considered for when I want to mix things up, and playing an attacking role down the left instead.

Ozil as RPM has turned out very well. He was top 5 in the league in terms of average ratings last year. This is his stats, so far, this season:

Hasn't had many goals or assists, but not bad either. His high ratings obviously stems of three things:

1. 4.5 key passes per game

2. 3.6 dribbles per game

3. 3 interceptions per game

So, he's doing exactly what I want him to do. He is being the glue that sticks the backline and frontline together. Most things flow through him, which is intentional, as I made him the sole playmaker in the team. He does good things with the ball, and actually contributes defensively.

What training program did you use for Ozil. I am very intrested in this thread. Have you thought about using a Half Back in the DMC position. Because you are using Wing Backs who will bomb forward this might help out with cover when they go forward. Is to early to ask what changes you plan on making to the tactics, role and duties.

[Kawee]

What training program did you use for Ozil. I am very intrested in this thread. Have you thought about using a Half Back in the DMC position. Because you are using Wing Backs who will bomb forward this might help out with cover when they go forward. Is to early to ask what changes you plan on making to the tactics, role and duties.

I simply only train Ozil to play as a central midfielder. Nothing special.

No, halfback has not and will not be considered. There is no Wenger use of halfback to draw from. The tactic must be built only with aspects that Wenger has used extensively, before.

[johnnyyakuza78]

This looks good.

Think you need to find a striker with very low levels of finishing and a defence who's concentration attributes are below 10.. then you might have a real Wenger team going on!

[gunner86]

Interesting choice with the DLF, I'd have thought something more akin to the Target Man support would be more like how we play, especially with Giroud

[Earnie is God!]

"Work Ball into the Box" only picked because "Walk Ball into the Net" isn't available.

I like your idea and opening post although I've yet to read any more of the thread just yet.

I did not know about the new thing in FM16 with the manager/DoF option. You say that sometimes it happens but is there any way to know if it will occur?

I presume the previous manager will have to have DoF as one of his staff roles but does time spent at the club and/or overall manager experience also come into it?

As for your tactics, I would see Giroud as more of a TM than a DLF and that change might also help solve your goals issue.

Nice thread though and I'll keep an eye on your progress.

[James9]

I simply only train Ozil to play as a central midfielder. Nothing special.

No, halfback has not and will not be considered. There is no Wenger use of halfback to draw from. The tactic must be built only with aspects that Wenger has used extensively, before.

I was just suggesting maybe using a Half Back instead of DMC to give some more stability in defence. Also you would maybe add some positional and strength training to Ozil. The Roaming Playmaker is quite a demanding role physically and I do not thing Ozil has very good physical stats.

[Kawee]

This looks good.

Think you need to find a striker with very low levels of finishing and a defence who's concentration attributes are below 10.. then you might have a real Wenger team going on!

Well, since I don't allow myself a Plan B, I played a very highline and very wide against Dortmund, and was ripped apart by throughballs to Aubameyand. Fortunately, his finishing was even worse than Welbeck.

[Kawee]

Interesting choice with the DLF, I'd have thought something more akin to the Target Man support would be more like how we play, especially with Giroud

I don't think Giroud actually plays as a targetman for us though. He's nothing like Andry Carrol for example. I think most Arsenal fans would agree, he plays more like a DLF support than anything. He's used mainly as someone to ping the ball off. He usually only resembles a targetman when we don't get to build up slowly like we prefer, and needs to launch the ball forward towards him to relieve some pressure.

The DLF support will still get into the box to attack crosses, which is where his aerial presence is most felt anyway.

[Kawee]

I like your idea and opening post although I've yet to read any more of the thread just yet.

I did not know about the new thing in FM16 with the manager/DoF option. You say that sometimes it happens but is there any way to know if it will occur?

I presume the previous manager will have to have DoF as one of his staff roles but does time spent at the club and/or overall manager experience also come into it?

As for your tactics, I would see Giroud as more of a TM than a DLF and that change might also help solve your goals issue.

Nice thread though and I'll keep an eye on your progress.

Cheers man! Good to see there's actually one person who appreciated the joke lol.

I don't actually know what will trigger moving a manager to the DoF position. I just picked Arsenal, and Wenger was moved up, with the option to remove him if I wanted. So I just rolled with it, and roll-play.

[Kawee]

I was just suggesting maybe using a Half Back instead of DMC to give some more stability in defence. Also you would maybe add some positional and strength training to Ozil. The Roaming Playmaker is quite a demanding role physically and I do not thing Ozil has very good physical stats.

I understand. There are a number of tweaks that I'm come to my mind, which I think will improve the tactic, but I just can't do it. I'm committed to only using tactical aspects that Wenger used, so that rules out a number of roles and tactical styles.

I didn't train Ozil in anything in particular. As you can see, he's already averaging over 8km per game. Not bad at all. I also don't think it is all that physically demanding. He's not a box-to-box. He only runs from the edge of one box to another. In the buildup phase, the support DM helps him our a lot anyway, so it's not like he has to drop deep all the time, then pushes up. In defense, he also holds his position, since the B2B is the one chasing. As you can see, his defensive game is far more to do with interceptions than tackling.

[thomit]

I have started quite a few new saves with Arsenal, and Wenger has been moved to the DoF role every time. I let him seek out and buy young prospects, as well as some of the staff, but I choose and handle first team buys myself. That's one of the things that for me are the most rewarding (if you get it right) aspects of managing in FM, so I wouldn't want to "automate" that process by leaving it to the DoF, or anyone else.

He usually don't stay for many seasons though, he retires after 2, 3 or 4 seasons.

[James9]

I understand. There are a number of tweaks that I'm come to my mind, which I think will improve the tactic, but I just can't do it. I'm committed to only using tactical aspects that Wenger used, so that rules out a number of roles and tactical styles.

I didn't train Ozil in anything in particular. As you can see, he's already averaging over 8km per game. Not bad at all. I also don't think it is all that physically demanding. He's not a box-to-box. He only runs from the edge of one box to another. In the buildup phase, the support DM helps him our a lot anyway, so it's not like he has to drop deep all the time, then pushes up. In defense, he also holds his position, since the B2B is the one chasing. As you can see, his defensive game is far more to do with interceptions than tackling.

Thanks for the reply. I becoming to warm to idea of Ozil has a Roaming Playmaker. It would be good to see what changes you made to the tactic. I know you mentioned earlier in the thread that you will be making some changes to improve the tactic. So I am differently intrested to see what you have done to achieve this.

[Kawee]

I have started quite a few new saves with Arsenal, and Wenger has been moved to the DoF role every time. I let him seek out and buy young prospects, as well as some of the staff, but I choose and handle first team buys myself. That's one of the things that for me are the most rewarding (if you get it right) aspects of managing in FM, so I wouldn't want to "automate" that process by leaving it to the DoF, or anyone else.

He usually don't stay for many seasons though, he retires after 2, 3 or 4 seasons.

I understand. Signing first teamers is something I never thought I could give up either, but I thought it'd be a fun experiment to just roleplay it. The old man is all over the place though. He gave me Aleix Vidal and Neven Subotic. I didn't really need or want either. As IRL, he still can't find me a better striker than Giroud/Welbeck though

[ozilthegunner]

This is a great idea (especially where you made an intentional tactical choice based on a stupid idea of Wenger's ;P).

I left Wenger as my DOF in my Arsenal save as well and at first let him still look for first teamers, but exercised executive control (i.e., I would just withdraw an offer if I didn't want the player or thought the offer was too much). But before I decided to exercise that control he brought in Felipe Anderson and Luan for me. Luan never really made it into the team and I sold him (at a profit!) the next year. But Felipe Anderson ended up settling in as my first choice RW, even though I originally intended for him to sit behind the Ox (poor Ox couldn't catch a break in my game just as in real life... although in my game he played well when I did bring him on).

I'll be interested to see the changes you make. I would say that if you wanted to maintain something from the modern game but still change up the striker so as to perhaps increase goals, you could switch to something like a Complete Forward. That seems to be something like Welbeck, who Wenger was preferring at least for a bit (and may very well prefer next season, absent getting a new striker in). I also do not think it is totally inappropriate for Giroud and fits with your overall theme. I think we see Giroud try to be more like a CF in terms of running onto the ball and crafting chances for himself; he just usually fails miserably at it (especially the dribbling!)

Just look at all the runs onto the ball he attempted and failed at in the Sunderland game...

[barriie]

Great thread!

As an arsenal fan myself i always play with Arsenal, havent tried Wenger as DoF though, might switch things up a bit.

Also nice to see someone with a clear tactical view, even if its someone elses . I agree with the post above, i see Giroud more as a Complete Forward, rather than a DLF. He is not that bad in FM, and in recent years he has filled that role up pretty well.

Starting a new save with arsenal and really got some inspiration from this thread. Usually i play Ozil as AP/S in the RW position, that way Bellerin can come flying over anytime he wants too. But a roaming Ozil sounds amazing too . Keep up, and good luck with yur game!

And we trust in Arsene!

[Earnie is God!]

I'm just pleased that when I start a new save as Cardiff, Russell Slade isn't moved to DoF. I don't think he's a very capable manager so who knows what havoc he'd wreak as DoF!

[Kawee]

So, finished my 2nd season. In terms of achievements, it's even better than the last. Won the UCL + EPL double again, but this time, added the League Cup as well. I don't know why they chose my 3-0 victory over Man Utd, when we won the UCL final against Barcelona 6-2!

However, the league didn't turn out as well. I earned less points, scored less goals, and conceded more goals. My team actually started the league very well, but we had a collapse towards the end. Spurs was 13 points behind us at one point. Then we started conceding goals to mid-table sides like never before. In a way, it did a good job of capturing the dark February and March Wenger used to have. Sad to see.

The tactic I used for this season was:

The same TI as last year. I took on the advice that I need more runners to score more goals. So, I changed the DLF from support to attack (sort of an RvP role) so he's more aggressive against the deep defensive lines we come up against. Although I brought the wingers back into the midfield strata, this gives me the control I needed. If I play a winger, he dribbles too wide, if I play an Inside Forward, he cuts inside, if I play a Raumdueter, he's too narrow. Playing a wide midfielder gives me the control I need to make the type of attacking right midfielder I wanted. If nothign else, the DLG turns out very well, as my strikers were scoring more goals. But as you can see, we've struggled for goal, still. Still need a bit of tinkering.

I'm also having a bit of an identity crisis. Except for the slow build up, I don't feel like this team has a lot from the modern Wenger sides. Would like to add an aspect from the modern Wenger sides into this team, but I'm not too sure what. Will think about it, over the weekend.

Last but not least, the reason I started this Roleplaying thread has come to and end

[James9]

So, finished my 2nd season. In terms of achievements, it's even better than the last. Won the UCL + EPL double again, but this time, added the League Cup as well. I don't know why they chose my 3-0 victory over Man Utd, when we won the UCL final against Barcelona 6-2!

However, the league didn't turn out as well. I earned less points, scored less goals, and conceded more goals. My team actually started the league very well, but we had a collapse towards the end. Spurs was 13 points behind us at one point. Then we started conceding goals to mid-table sides like never before. In a way, it did a good job of capturing the dark February and March Wenger used to have. Sad to see.

The tactic I used for this season was:

The same TI as last year. I took on the advice that I need more runners to score more goals. So, I changed the DLF from support to attack (sort of an RvP role) so he's more aggressive against the deep defensive lines we come up against. Although I brought the wingers back into the midfield strata, this gives me the control I needed. If I play a winger, he dribbles too wide, if I play an Inside Forward, he cuts inside, if I play a Raumdueter, he's too narrow. Playing a wide midfielder gives me the control I need to make the type of attacking right midfielder I wanted. If nothign else, the DLG turns out very well, as my strikers were scoring more goals. But as you can see, we've struggled for goal, still. Still need a bit of tinkering.

I'm also having a bit of an identity crisis. Except for the slow build up, I don't feel like this team has a lot from the modern Wenger sides. Would like to add an aspect from the modern Wenger sides into this team, but I'm not too sure what. Will think about it, over the weekend.

Last but not least, the reason I started this Roleplaying thread has come to and end

Will there anymore updates. I am keen to find out how you are doing with scoring more goals. Also did you give your players any PI

[Kawee]

Will there anymore updates. I am keen to find out how you are doing with scoring more goals. Also did you give your players any PI

Nop. Wenger has retired and so this role-playing save comes to an end. I don't think I'll have a problem scoring more goals, if I don't restrain myself with "Wengerball."

I use a few PIs. Like creating the left flank by making the left winger come narrower and the left wingback go wider. Nothing more than 2-3 PIs per player.