ihatefm Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Pretty much THIS This is the 3rd time I have had this happen to me and the second time I have conceded from such BS. Just makes me feel weak and sick of this ****ing game. Do you guys experience such dumb stuff and is this a known issue, are people working to fix this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danchinaski Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 If you hate it *that* much, you can always stop playing. Just saying, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrlee.1986 Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Well personally, I Swear at my laptop, call my keeper some expletive choice words and threaten my defence with me visiting their wives... Free the anger mate.. You feel better lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 First of all can you please have a read of the house rules as there's no need to swear- http://community.sigames.com/forumdisplay.php/37-House-Rules-amp-Forum-Guidelines Unfortunately there will always be bad goals in football & naturally these exist in FM, the issue is trying to spot which one's are just bad luck, which are bugged animations & which are bugged ME code, the last two are constantly being worked on with each version of FM getting a couple of updates & of course the norm is for every new release to have undergone a major update since the last version. In your example you've had some bad luck with the ball smashing of a player when cleared, a potential bug in the ball physics as it did rebound at quite a pace & a potential ME bug as there wasn't really a need for the keeper to prevent what I image was a corner (I couldn't tell who the ball hit) in the way that he did so that's a possible triple whammy in a single passage of play, quite rate but not unknown. If you would like to help SI can you upload a copy of the match save file for the match engine team to investigate what's happening in the code? It won't fix what has happened but it could help them identify code errors for future updates. Details on what file you need to upload & where can be found in the bugs section. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatefm Posted June 11, 2016 Author Share Posted June 11, 2016 Sorry, I just signed up and I just wanted to vent out my frustration somewhere with people who understand. I'll maybe make a post in the bugs section. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earnie is God! Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 It's rare but can happen in real life too. Only two months ago, West Ham GK Adrian could have let a free kick go out and wide but instead thought it would be a good idea to keep it in, palming it straight to Crystal Palace's Damien Delaney who headed it in. It's in the first 10 seconds of this clip: I understand the frustration and there will always be glitches that make something like this happen in FM. The thing is that this can happen for both teams but we only ever remember the times when it goes against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Sorry, I just signed up and I just wanted to vent out my frustration somewhere with people who understand. I'll maybe make a post in the bugs section. That's okay, football is a frustrating game irl & SI have done a great job in having us carry the same emotion over to a computer game & I understand that those frustration can get the better of us, If you do post about your example & any other you might have it will always be appreciated by the folk working on the match engine, there are only so many matches they can watch so any community help is encouraged, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleasedToMichu Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Yeah, assume the keeper wanted to prevent a corner, but went about it in a terrible, terrible way. We all have brain-fart moments and football players aren't excluded from this. But undoubtedly highly frustrating when it happens to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Having a boat load more animations to cover fumbles, miscues, poor footwork, body shape & first touches would certainly help interpret what the 3d view is attempting to show is, there are undoubtedly a large number of rage moments that are caused because the animations could not show us what the ME had determined. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmfan74 Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Sorry to brake down the news to you guys. I've just run through some more tests in england, let's say around 4th division. I wanted to see how the AI would react to my teams changed attributes for every player in my team. Just for giggles I changed all my players attributes to 20 and wanted to see how the opposition would cope in such a very lower league. I had around 46 shots on goals and only 4 went in. Thats given my teams stats were mostly around 20. Just shows you this season for me hasn't grabbed my attention. There is something there where the AI is OP or shall i say the tactics play a heavy role in your win/loss situation but given the case are we saying only 1 in ever 10 shots go in. sorry just what im finding in my testing results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack4ever Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Sorry to brake down the news to you guys. I've just run through some more tests in england, let's say around 4th division. I wanted to see how the AI would react to my teams changed attributes for every player in my team. Just for giggles I changed all my players attributes to 20 and wanted to see how the opposition would cope in such a very lower league. I had around 46 shots on goals and only 4 went in. Thats given my teams stats were mostly around 20.Just shows you this season for me hasn't grabbed my attention. There is something there where the AI is OP or shall i say the tactics play a heavy role in your win/loss situation but given the case are we saying only 1 in ever 10 shots go in. sorry just what im finding in my testing results. I'm about ten seasons in with Bristol City. First year I got promoted from the Championship and then over the next 4 seasons I worked my way up from 17th in the Premiership up to winning it. For that entire period I played using a counter-attacking style where we would routinely have less than 40% of the possession and where more often than not our opponents had at least three times the number of shots we did. I still won games consistently, had plenty of players who performed very well, and turned my team from an average Championship side into a top Premiership side. You know how I managed it? Well unlike you I actually thought about my tactics and figured out what worked and what didn't for the players I had. I developed a system that allowed me to restrict the number of good chances my opponents got while ensuring that my team created good scoring opportunities. I used players in a way that allowed them to make the most of what their talents were, I consistently got great performances out of very average looking players. Maybe if you actually took the time to bother developing a tactic based on solid fundamentals instead of continually bitching about how much you hate the game you might actually have some success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 fmfan74, I cannot see any link between your post & the topic in the OP therefore I can only assume that you've seen it as another opportunity to have a whinge about your tactics, this is not helpful to the OP & is starting to become tiresome. As mack has suggested the best option available to you is to seek assistance from the very knowledgeable folk in the tact is forum, if you're willing you will learn a lot more than you ever will from a flawed attribute experiment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmfan74 Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 I'm about ten seasons in with Bristol City. First year I got promoted from the Championship and then over the next 4 seasons I worked my way up from 17th in the Premiership up to winning it.For that entire period I played using a counter-attacking style where we would routinely have less than 40% of the possession and where more often than not our opponents had at least three times the number of shots we did. I still won games consistently, had plenty of players who performed very well, and turned my team from an average Championship side into a top Premiership side. You know how I managed it? Well unlike you I actually thought about my tactics and figured out what worked and what didn't for the players I had. I developed a system that allowed me to restrict the number of good chances my opponents got while ensuring that my team created good scoring opportunities. I used players in a way that allowed them to make the most of what their talents were, I consistently got great performances out of very average looking players. Maybe if you actually took the time to bother developing a tactic based on solid fundamentals instead of continually bitching about how much you hate the game you might actually have some success. Your going over the top. i love the game and i've bought every season. I've won every competition of the popular status. All my strikers who were cheap i converted them to great players. Like i said i'm finding it more with tactics this season than player attributes. My testing is just something i ran and not to finger point to you or others. It' s something i like to work on. I like always delving into game mechanics, have you not realised how OP keepers are this season ? or are you too blind to notice. Let alone go back and see how many posts i've raised to yours with SI about game fixes. Now let's see who is talking. I'm more of a contributor to what you are, i don't play the game just like you do. I make an effort to make it better by helping SI.. Go read my previous bug posts if you dare which even SI confirmed to do something about it. Facts speak for themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmfan74 Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 fmfan74, I cannot see any link between your post & the topic in the OP therefore I can only assume that you've seen it as another opportunity to have a whinge about your tactics, this is not helpful to the OP & is starting to become tiresome.As mack has suggested the best option available to you is to seek assistance from the very knowledgeable folk in the tact is forum, if you're willing you will learn a lot more than you ever will from a flawed attribute experiment. Sorry, but as for the OP i totally feel his pain. Given how far the keeper dives is one question that is another conversation for this season. Given what the keeper does in this situation is predictable after playing so many games. Should the keeper have made that type of blunder after a very distant dive ? it's possible yes. There are still so many ping pong blunders happening in game. I'm not blaming SI for it, it's not something you can force. Just a universe with unexpected scenarios occurring over time. When i spent my long hours posting and uploading my ftp files for corrections with others we were disappointed not to see the majority get fixed. And by reading posts over the months i'm seeing more ping pong blunder posts being raised this season than the last few. I am not going to sit here and point fingers but i've been let down this season thats all. Does it really offend people how i feel does it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Your history of reporting bugs has been noticed & as a former QA for FM I know it is appreciated, it doesn't change the fact that you do seem to need help with understanding the tactical side of the game so I strongly suggest that you spend the next few weeks in the tactics section. In that I'll be closing this thread as the OP's issues has been addressed. Edit: In reply to you last post your recent propensity to just moan has been noticed, we all like to be critical & the 500 bug reports I logged on FM12 which led to me working at SI backs that up but there comes a point where posts that are completely off topic verge on become trolling. This can be changed & all it needs is a willingness to post in the tactics section & to have an open mind that a lot of your problems could be of your own making. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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