tran Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Universally, they've been dropped dramatically, with most coaches having a rating of 1 or 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino-33 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Universally, they've been dropped dramatically, with most coaches having a rating of 1 or 2. Yep! As posted here http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/460101-1-2-One-bug-one-issue?highlight=motivating and here http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/460507-(1-2-1)-Motivating-att-for-all-coaching-staff-is-lowIf there's a hotfix for the missing background games bug http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/460357-No-background-games-being-played maybe/hopefully the motivation bug will be addressed too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanFan Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Yeah, that background game bug is an absolute game breaker. I hope it's the number one issue being handled right now. The motivation bug sucks but not having our prospects play for multi years is a major development killer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zagardlenie Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Universally, they've been dropped dramatically, with most coaches having a rating of 1 or 2. Having the same issue. Any solution? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zagardlenie Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Someone is working on this issue? Are you planning on releasing a hot fix for it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanFan Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Someone is working on this issue? Are you planning on releasing a hot fix for it? You could always use EHM Assistant to adjust the motivation rating if that's what you're asking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zagardlenie Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 You could always use EHM Assistant to adjust the motivation rating if that's what you're asking about. For 5000 staff in my database? Every time when I start new game? Besides, we don’t know if motivating stat working properly in game mechanics. Such a ridiculous bug like this is the responsibility of SI. I paid for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanFan Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 For 5000 staff in my database? Every time when I start new game? Besides, we don’t know if motivating stat working properly in game mechanics. Such a ridiculous bug like this is the responsibility of SI. I paid for it. I think there is a "mass edit all" feature in EHM DB editor. But I've never used it so I'm not sure how it would work. Give the DB editor a try and see if that helps with the issue as a short term fix. I am only trying to offer some short term solutions. I agree it's a bug, but the Dev can only do so much at once. There are other and more important issues right now that need attention so some things have no choice but to wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zagardlenie Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 I think there is a "mass edit all" feature in EHM DB editor. But I've never used it so I'm not sure how it would work. Give the DB editor a try and see if that helps with the issue as a short term fix. I am only trying to offer some short term solutions. I agree it's a bug, but the Dev can only do so much at once. There are other and more important issues right now that need attention so some things have no choice but to wait. Don’t forget that every one staff member owns his individual attribute rating (given by researchers) that correspond with the Current ability. (I don’t want use mass edit and move my game into fantasy hockey realm). More important issues? Motivating stat affect training efficiency, prospects development, players knowledge of tactic, etc… “In regard to training, a coach with high motivation will influence the players work rate and affect their determination to play better, train harder and do better. The players will take training and matches more seriously and not slack off.” - In my opinion, it’s making game unplayable. Anyway, thank you for your advice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanFan Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Don’t forget that every one staff member owns his individual attribute rating (given by researchers) that correspond with the Current ability. (I don’t want use mass edit and move my game into fantasy hockey realm). More important issues? Motivating stat affect training efficiency, prospects development, players knowledge of tactic, etc… “In regard to training, a coach with high motivation will influence the players work rate and affect their determination to play better, train harder and do better. The players will take training and matches more seriously and not slack off.” - In my opinion, it’s making game unplayable. Anyway, thank you for your advice. How about prospects not playing at all? I think that's a more important issue than the coaches bug. I didn't say this wasn't important but there is only so much a Dev can do at one time and, much like life, there will always be a priority list. I don't see this bug as game breaking compared to the no background games bug. Like I said before, these things always get sorted out. We just have to have patience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjohns38 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 How about prospects not playing at all? I think that's a more important issue than the coaches bug. I didn't say this wasn't important but there is only so much a Dev can do at one time and, much like life, there will always be a priority list. I don't see this bug as game breaking compared to the no background games bug. Like I said before, these things always get sorted out. We just have to have patience. The bug itself doesn't break the game (it does make it far less realistic, but that's a digression for a longer post), but I do think it's an indicator of something seriously amiss in the code; for all we know, this bug could be connected with the non-playing prospects as well as other functional issues. The bug is database-independent and it affects the gameplay engine. So I think it's definitely major. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino-33 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 The bug itself doesn't break the game (it does make it far less realistic, but that's a digression for a longer post), but I do think it's an indicator of something seriously amiss in the code; for all we know, this bug could be connected with the non-playing prospects as well as other functional issues. The bug is database-independent and it affects the gameplay engine. So I think it's definitely major. I totally admit I know nothing about coding, but I think it's a huge stretch to connect a single Attribute's functioning with non-playing prospects (and based on my testing and seeing other bugs/issues and their effects over the years I suspect there's absolutely no connection between the two) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Riz Remes Posted July 19, 2016 SI Staff Share Posted July 19, 2016 The issue is being looked into, thanks for the reports. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Riz Remes Posted July 19, 2016 SI Staff Share Posted July 19, 2016 Issue has been located and it was a glitch in filling in empty fields and controlling the job related attributes at the start of the game. A fix is in the pipeline for this for new games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyersfan1493 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Issue has been located and it was a glitch in filling in empty fields and controlling the job related attributes at the start of the game. A fix is in the pipeline for this for new games. For new games? Will it not work for games already in progress? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hluraven Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 It won't change the motivation attribute of any staff member that already has a rating, no. It would work (I think) on newly generated staff in games in progress, if they are created after the fix is installed. Attribute fixes would not work on staff that have already been created in a game in progress though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjohns38 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 For new games? Will it not work for games already in progress? No, because according to Riz the glitch occurs when the game generates coaches/assistant coaches for the save game at the start. I believe the game pulls the information on staff from whichever source database you choose to use (default, TBL, 1978, etc.) and then populates any fields not specifically detailed in that staff record dynamically. As hluraven said, for current saves, as the game created new staff at the coach/asst. coach level, it would populate the Motivating field correctly once the hotfix is in place, but existing staff - having already been generated - would retain the values from when they were created. Also, thank you, Riz! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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