Chrisgills Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Into my fourth season on my new save and noticed weird and wonderful transfers all over the world. Mario balotelli signs for Watford for 24mil, Buffon signs for hull on a free, pogba at arsenal for 48mil, griezman signs for Barcelona for 56 mil in January then signs for atletico Madrid in the summer for 58mil, Rooney signs for Everton for 12mil, then after 6 months goes to West Ham then leaves them in the summer to join Middlesbrough in the championship that's only a few random selected, plenty more about, just seems unrealistic to me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 You are four years in the future, whats unrealistic about it given you don't have a clue whats going to happen in the next four years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisgills Posted September 25, 2016 Author Share Posted September 25, 2016 Griezman playing at Barcelona for 6 months then moving on, Rooney going through 3 clubs in a year? Balotelli signing for Watford for 24mil? There's a lot more players which move one club then after 6 months move again, lakaku signed for Bayern in the first January window, has played 6 games in 3 years after costing 40mil, or the biggest shock you could say is aguero moving to Real Madrid, spends a year there, moves to juventus for 6 months then goes back to city, all within 18 months, you wouldn't get this in real life would you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Thats not a problem thats easily resolved unfortunately. In FM the players don't have memories or history that they remember. They only "see" their current situation and are either happy or unhappy with it. Clubs are much the same which leads to some of those "odd" movements you probably wouldn't see IRL. SI could probably improve it but the downside is most of the userbase wouldn't be able to afford a computer which could run FM while it would be that slow it would be unplayable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisgills Posted September 25, 2016 Author Share Posted September 25, 2016 Don't get me wrong I'm not knocking si as fm is a brilliant game. I just get an enjoyment out of these types of transfers and just wanted to see anyone else's stories they've seen about strange transfers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fer Fuchs Ake Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Costa (30 yrs old) was released by Chelsea on my journeyman save and he joined Swansea. I signed a player on an Arsenal save who had just signed for a different club a week or so beforehand. Bale joined United for something between 20-50 million (he was only 28) on the aforementioned journeyman save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack4ever Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 3 hours ago, Chrisgills said: Into my fourth season on my new save and noticed weird and wonderful transfers all over the world. Mario balotelli signs for Watford for 24mil, Buffon signs for hull on a free, pogba at arsenal for 48mil, griezman signs for Barcelona for 56 mil in January then signs for atletico Madrid in the summer for 58mil, Rooney signs for Everton for 12mil, then after 6 months goes to West Ham then leaves them in the summer to join Middlesbrough in the championship that's only a few random selected, plenty more about, just seems unrealistic to me? Within the next 4 years it's entirely possible that Watford could get taken over by somebody extremely wealthy and in 4 years Balotelli will only be 30, if he has a few very good seasons between now and then with the way the football world is going he could easily be worth £24m. Buffon will be 42 and while in reality he will almost certainly have retired by then there are always some goalkeepers that stick around for as long as they possibly can. Pogba may well not live up to the price that Man Utd paid for him and who can say that in a few years they won't look to move him on. Griezman could be signed by Barcelona, not fit in with the team at all and so an offer for him would be accepted. In real life it's unlikely that a big name player such as him would be discarded so quickly but if it's obvious he's not going to work out and you have the chance to recoup the entire fee that was paid for him it's possible that the club would accept it. I will admit the Rooney transfer is very weird given that he'll be 34 by then. While the reality is that none of those transfers are very likely to happen none of them are completely unrealistic (with the exception of the Rooney transfer) and all can be explained quite simply with realistic changes within the footballing world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanNn Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 If in real life nowdays Joe Hart moved to Torino on loan, and Jack Wilshere to Bournmouth on loan, so the transfers in your game are realistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carninho Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 i dont see anything wrong?! look at real life examples, Victor Valdes - Barce - Man U - Standard Liege - Middlesboro Pogba - Man U - Juve - Man U Juan Cuadrado - Chelsea - Juve straight after i think you get my point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 On FM 13 (I think) I once sold a regen midfielder (Wesley was his name, Brazilian, pretty darn good) to Real Madrid for 76 mil, agreed the deal in early May. End of the season, Real sacked their manager for finishing 4th, come pre-season, he's transfer listed as he obviously didn't fit in to the new manager's plans. In the meantime, I'd been unable to find an adequate replacement that was first team ready (all my mids were either U20 or over 35 - I had one, Jack Wilshere), so ended up signing him back for 58mil ish. Essentially, Real loaned him for the summer and paid close to 20 mil for the privelege. Now THAT is a crazy transfer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carninho Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 While at Atalanta in an early FM/CM I sold Ronaldinho for the max transfer the game allowed £250 million, plus all the maximum clauses including a buy back fee of less than £250 million. he never wanted to come back to me though That was the same version which allowed you to loan Mexes & Boumsong from Auxerre at the start of the game, even if you were at a right ****** club (for me that would have been Forest or Dundee Utd) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingdinho Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Twice in my current Newcastle save I have sold the same player to a bigger club for good money (Man City and Arsenal), then bought them back the season after for less than I sold them. He was ambitious, found he wasn't good enough, and came back to a club where he is loved by the fans (they blamed the club rather than the player for moving). Now he's a rotation player but seems to have settled. I don't know if that is 'realistic', but I like the narrative it has made. Plus it was very good business for the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matshit Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I think the "problem" is that the game often struggle with giving you a full insight into a situation. No one follow every situation in game, and you just look at the result and deem it unrealistic. A player is scoring 20 league goals one season, and can barely get a match the next even without injuries? Maybe he was benched after making trouble or refusing to sign a new contract, maybe another even better striker took his place. Maybe the team changed tactics so there were no longer any room for his type of player. I think this is an area that someplace down the future will be expanded on in the game. It is probably a bit to demanding at the moment, but news stories, player/manager/club biographies and important storylines has a huge potential to help people understand more of what is going on in the game world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Matshit? Suprised you were allowed to use that username. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardymouse Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 On 9/25/2016 at 20:20, Chrisgills said: Rooney signs for Everton for 12mil, then after 6 months goes to West Ham then leaves them in the summer to join Middlesbrough in the championship that's only a few random selected, plenty more about, just seems unrealistic to me? I agree it's unrealistic, there's no way a Championship club will want Rooney in four years time. He'll be in League One by then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan045 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I think more realistic transfers is something they will improve on this year but they definitely need to tone down the "buying for huge fee and listing them the following season" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbo11 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Personally, I like these 'unrealistic' transfers. Adds a story to the game rather than expecting the same old things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 On 9/26/2016 at 05:42, Carninho said: While at Atalanta in an early FM/CM I sold Ronaldinho for the max transfer the game allowed £250 million, plus all the maximum clauses including a buy back fee of less than £250 million. he never wanted to come back to me though What I want to know is how you got Ronaldinho to Atalanta in the first place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 On 9/26/2016 at 08:08, Matshit said: I think the "problem" is that the game often struggle with giving you a full insight into a situation. No one follow every situation in game, and you just look at the result and deem it unrealistic. A player is scoring 20 league goals one season, and can barely get a match the next even without injuries? Maybe he was benched after making trouble or refusing to sign a new contract, maybe another even better striker took his place. Maybe the team changed tactics so there were no longer any room for his type of player. I think this is an area that someplace down the future will be expanded on in the game. It is probably a bit to demanding at the moment, but news stories, player/manager/club biographies and important storylines has a huge potential to help people understand more of what is going on in the game world. I agree. I think the problem lies less in the seemingly random outcomes and more in the underdeveloped and non-transparent random causes behind them. FM could do with a lot more idiosyncrasies in general, which would in turn justify more crazy transfers (ie Hart, Balotelli), etc. that we see that in reality could make more sense with a bit of background. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyboy89 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Sure transfers happen that look a bit daft. But that happens in real-life all the time. Andy Carroll to Liverpool for £35m? Julien Faubert to Real Madrid on loan Papy Djilobodji from Nantes to Chelsea Esteban Cambiasso from Inter to Leicester Edgar Davids to Barnet I could go on, but stuff like this happens. Just embrace it and enjoy the story of people's career's within FM. Fabricate a scenario where you think it's plausible. As soon as you hit continue from when starting the game, history is simulated. Try not to compare it too much to real life, because it isn't real life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 54 minutes ago, Mattyboy89 said: Sure transfers happen that look a bit daft. But that happens in real-life all the time. Andy Carroll to Liverpool for £35m? Julien Faubert to Real Madrid on loan Papy Djilobodji from Nantes to Chelsea Esteban Cambiasso from Inter to Leicester Edgar Davids to Barnet I could go on, but stuff like this happens. Just embrace it and enjoy the story of people's career's within FM. Fabricate a scenario where you think it's plausible. As soon as you hit continue from when starting the game, history is simulated. Try not to compare it too much to real life, because it isn't real life. As last year's Premier League proved, FM is actually far more realistic than real life ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
suncrush Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 I always like the players who end up in odd places at the end of their career. In an Arsenal game I played, Wayne Rooney moved from Man U to FC Dallas in 2018, at the age of 33. (Seems 100% plausible at the moment.) In 2020 he moved to Cheltenham Town in League 1 after losing his spot at Dallas. (Odd, but perhaps he had the passion to play until his legs fell off.) Played 3 years there, getting relegated the first two. Signed with Tampa Bay Rowdies, which is apparently a team that actually exists, and did two and a half seasons there before retiring as a player, and becoming the Arsenal Under-21s assistant coach under Per Mertesacker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 9 minutes ago, suncrush said: I always like the players who end up in odd places at the end of their career. In an Arsenal game I played, Wayne Rooney moved from Man U to FC Dallas in 2018, at the age of 33. (Seems 100% plausible at the moment.) In 2020 he moved to Cheltenham Town in League 1 after losing his spot at Dallas. (Odd, but perhaps he had the passion to play until his legs fell off.) Played 3 years there, getting relegated the first two. Signed with Tampa Bay Rowdies, which is apparently a team that actually exists, and did two and a half seasons there before retiring as a player, and becoming the Arsenal Under-21s assistant coach under Per Mertesacker. Almost as strangely (though, with Hart now at Torino, maybe less so), I signed Rooney on a free when I managed Sassuolo. He was not good. You may know the Tampa Bay Rowdies as Fort Lauderdale Strikers's main rival, AKA the club where Amauri now plies his trade IRL in a turn of events even FM couldn't have replicated as amusingly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
suncrush Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 In the same game, it's 2030, Jack Wilshere is playing for Philadelphia in MLS and still getting England call-ups. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 6 minutes ago, suncrush said: In the same game, it's 2030, Jack Wilshere is playing for Philadelphia in MLS and still getting England call-ups. I guess poor Giovinco is just 14 years too early to MLS! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carninho Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 On 29/09/2016 at 18:09, Weston said: What I want to know is how you got Ronaldinho to Atalanta in the first place It was before he went to Barce. Plus Atalanta had some of the best Italian youths at the time so it was a great place to build a team of Euro champs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 On 9/26/2016 at 11:19, gunner86 said: On FM 13 (I think) I once sold a regen midfielder (Wesley was his name, Brazilian, pretty darn good) to Real Madrid for 76 mil, agreed the deal in early May. End of the season, Real sacked their manager for finishing 4th, come pre-season, he's transfer listed as he obviously didn't fit in to the new manager's plans. In the meantime, I'd been unable to find an adequate replacement that was first team ready (all my mids were either U20 or over 35 - I had one, Jack Wilshere), so ended up signing him back for 58mil ish. Essentially, Real loaned him for the summer and paid close to 20 mil for the privelege. Now THAT is a crazy transfer. It's good to see that there's corruption in FM as well as IRL... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispypaul Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 On 03/10/2016 at 18:16, Weston said: You may know the Tampa Bay Rowdies as Fort Lauderdale Strikers's main rival, AKA the club where Amauri now plies his trade IRL in a turn of events even FM couldn't have replicated as amusingly. IRL Tampa Bay currently have Freddy Adu and one Joe Cole playing for them... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 4 hours ago, Crispypaul said: IRL Tampa Bay currently have Freddy Adu and one Joe Cole playing for them... Oh damn I had no idea. The Florida derby has quite a few characters haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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