Gary Toner Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Further to what I said about Lovenkrands returning a few weeks ago seems the media have picked up on it Lovenkrands keen on Rangers returnby Brian Etherson, 20 April 2008 Rangers could be about to make an audacious bid to bring back Peter Lovenkrands to Ibrox, just two years after he was allowed to leave for German side Schalke on a free transfer. The Danish winger has never hidden his love for Scotland or Rangers and, since the 29-year-old has spent much of this season on the fringe of the Bundesliga side, a return might not be out of the question. Lovenkrands, whom Dick Advocaat signed for Rangers in 2000, seems to be uncertain about his own future with Schalke as their coach, Mirko Soma, was sacked last week after an embarrassing 5-1 defeat to Werder Bremen. “I have always said that I would love to come back to Rangers and play for them again if at some point if it was possible,†Lovenkrands said in the Scottish Mail on Sunday. “I have one year left on my Schalke contract and I have been led to believe that they want me to stay with them, so at this moment, I am not sure what is going to happen. “I enjoy Germany and playing for Schalke. It is a vital time for the club, with changes to the coaching staff and the end of the season coming up, so we’ll need to wait and see. “There’s not much more I can say for now.†Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted April 20, 2008 Author Share Posted April 20, 2008 Not for me. Inconsistent, heartless, injury prone and generally not worth bringing back for any fee - not to mention the £15-20K p/week he'll be after. I think this is more what PL wants as opposed to Rangers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 i get a feeling with Mcgeady that its more of a personal thing rather than his performances just to state for the record, I don't like McGeady simply because he plays for Celtic and acts like a wee baw - not to do with the Ireland/Scotland thing. I don't think he deserves to win the trophies based on his performances as Carlos Cuellar has been consistent the whole season - not just since maybe about December which is when McGeady starting hitting some sort of form with a hat-trick against Falkirk I think and then we had the wee move in February which made Chick Young jack into his pants and declare he must win the award I actually think McGeady has been good this year (that's from December) though, certainly improving and probably one of the most dangerous, if not the most dangerous weapon Celtic have this is for the record btw, I've already stated my opinion on what my thoughts are about the POTY/YPOTY trophies earlier, just making sure we aren't all tarred with the "omg you hate McGeady cause he decided to play for Ireland over Scotland thing" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan Kenobi Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Cuellar should win simply because of how big a role he's played in turning a very gash Rangers side around into potentially their most sucessful season in history. McGeady has turned it on at times in an already title winning Celtic side, they weren't bombing out to the St Johnstones of this world in the league cup when he suddenly game of age and started playing good. Plus while at times I think he's been great, he's not consistant with it. Cuellar I can count on less than one hand the amount of bad games he's had this year, and remember its also his first year in the Scottish game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovenkrands01 Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 I guess it would be no surprise I like Lovenkrands. In fact, I may have even thought he was number 01 at some point in life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 It is believed that Burke and Naismith are out for the rest of the season. We really can't afford any more injuries and at this rate we will be lucky to field 11 fit first team players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 was not a surprise to see Burke was done, broken ankle apparently - looked a nasty one when it happened with McCulloch/Naisy/Burke out, our options on the left/right side are starting to run out, although Buffel might get his chance possibly and I just wonder if we might try and rush Beasley back before the end of the season, think he was in training or about to go into it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sned Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 How good is Cuellar really? I honestly haven't seen enough of Rangers this season to judge, so aside from hearing all your glowing reports on him I know nothing Is he just a talented defender? An average player galvanised at a club that appreciates him, or a player with attributes that make him look better than that in the SPL? Is he good enough to warrant a large transfer fee and move to bigger things? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovenkrands01 Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 He won't be starting this season. Where's Charles Adam these days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Carlos is the best defender Rangers have had since Gough imo... The again I loved Big Amo so wha do I know I know i am biased but he is easily the best defender in Scotland. You're not really going to get an opinion on him here that might not come across biased but for me he is solid, His reading of the game is superb, His timing isn;t often off in tackling and he isn't weak in the air. Everything you could want from a central defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Adam is out injured for the rest of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 I don't know the average booking count a defender picks up in a season but Cuellar has only picked up 6 yellows and 1 red in over 50 games, Can't be too bad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 I'd say Carlos has probably been our best player in the UEFA Cup/CL campaign this year and that's pretty much the biggest test for a player (CL I mean, UEFA Cup is a wee bit behind) he does the simple things as a defender which is pretty much what you want, doesn't try anything risky and just generally does his job - whether it's heading the ball away, tackling or even passing the ball to a team-mate would be very sad to see him go in the summer if he does, especially if it was for a paltry price made up by the sun tan man don't actually want him to go at all though, but I think he will get called on by other European clubs who must have seen his performances against teams like Werder etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_cfc Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Originally posted by Gary Toner:I don't know the average booking count a defender picks up in a season but Cuellar has only picked up 6 yellows and 1 red in over 50 games, Can't be too bad? im not sure about that tbh but in the paper today it said that he, along with Weir, is 1 booking away from suspension Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFurball Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Originally posted by Stephen Wilson:ffs, look McGeady was far and away the best player in Scotland til mid February. Since then he's performing decent, despite being marked by two/three players at times, to say he's not had a good season is clearly false. POTY season? Perhaps not, but Cuellar's not had any sort of wonder season either. Has is been a good season for Cuellar? Without a doubt. But considering, even with our pish defence, we've played 3 games more than you in the league and still conceded less than the team a player at the heart of it putting forward a claim for player of the year. It's hardly the massive injustice you're claiming. And really, if you want to know all about these awards, you just need to look back a few seasons when Amoruso and Viduka won it for no apparant reason and even Sutton winning it in Henrik's last season. So eh, don't get so worked up? Alan Hutton says hi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFurball Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Originally posted by BWCH:How good is Cuellar really? I honestly haven't seen enough of Rangers this season to judge, so aside from hearing all your glowing reports on him I know nothing Is he just a talented defender? An average player galvanised at a club that appreciates him, or a player with attributes that make him look better than that in the SPL? Is he good enough to warrant a large transfer fee and move to bigger things? A fantastic defender who concentrates on defending first and foremost, but who can play a bit of football when the situation calls for it. Unlike Amo though, he's not shy of hoofing it into the stand when he needs to. Strong in the tackle, reads the game well, good in the air - can't ask for anything more. At £2.4m, Walter should be expecting a chap at his door from Strathclyde Police for robbery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Unlike Amo though, he's not shy of hoofing it into the stand when he needs to. probably the one thing I hated about Amo, when he used to mess about with the ball at the back and lose it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo22 Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Originally posted by TM:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Unlike Amo though, he's not shy of hoofing it into the stand when he needs to. probably the one thing I hated about Amo, when he used to mess about with the ball at the back and lose it </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Monaco at Ibrox springs to mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 indeed, I think all at Ibrox wanted to wring his neck that night that was a night when a certain Kenneth Miller scored as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacemaker7 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Originally posted by TM:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Unlike Amo though, he's not shy of hoofing it into the stand when he needs to. probably the one thing I hated about Amo, when he used to mess about with the ball at the back and lose it </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Yeah but Amo was suave and sophisticated and fancied himself a hell of a lot - also thought he could play football. Cuellar mainly keeps it simple and realises most of the time he's a defender and shouldn't be trying to run the length of the park with the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted April 21, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted April 21, 2008 Rumours going around that Naismith is out for between 5 and 8 months. Shame if true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 I said at the time of the nominations that McGeady winning would be kind of fitting as it's an individual prize and our great strength this year has been the unity and commitment shown from the whole team. It's fair to say that one of Celtic's biggest problems has been lack that of spirit in periods and their over-reliance on one or two very good players, which McGeady undoubtedly is. Cuellar has been by-and-large excellent, but so have McGregor, Weir, Papac and Hutton at the back so we look set to reap the rewards that collective consistency brings us, and let's not wallow in losing out to tokenism thrown towards one standout player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Originally posted by Frankie:Billy Reid has also done very well with Hamilton but again, I'm not sure sure he should win the award ahead of Walter. Tempted to suggest reasons other than football, but I believe that phrase has been copyrighted elsewhere. Seriously though, it seems a rather crazy decision. I'm sure WS would have given it little more than a wry smile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzza Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Originally posted by Ter:Rumours going around that Naismith is out for between 5 and 8 months. Shame if true Awful blow for the lad if true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Assuming that Walter will be playing 4-5-1 on Thurs, with Adam, Ferguson, Thompson, Burke and Naismith all out, does he have 5 to play in midfield? Davis, Buffel, Dailly, Hemdani and Novo?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted April 21, 2008 Author Share Posted April 21, 2008 Yep, I think that's the most likely midfield... For Sunday, Dailly will drop back into defence with Ferguson brought back into midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Wouldnt walter prefer Whitaker rather than the attacking minded Buffel/Novo? Or is he more likely to take over from Broadfoot at right back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted April 21, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted April 21, 2008 He might be forced to go with something more attacking that he would like or has done in the past. Hopefully Broadfoot won't play and Whittaker will be at right back. GK: Alexander DR: Whittaker DL: Papac DC: Weir DC: Cuellar MC: Hemdani MC: Dailly MC: Davis AMR: Darcheville AML: Novo FC: Cousin I'd go with that. I think Novo especially will work his arse off and help out defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan Kenobi Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Would rather start with Gow/Buffel over Darcheville. JCD I think could do more if he came off the bench and make an impact in the 2nd half if we want to get a goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibroxhero Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Agreed although none of them would do the defensive work whittaker would do on the wing. We're gonna get pumped anyway though so meh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacemaker7 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 I think this is where the run ends. Fiore are just too good a side to hold them to 0-0, would have been tough enough with a full squad, but with Lee McCulloch missing we really have no chance. Dunno what to think really, perhaps we should just forget the UEFA and concentrate on tying up the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 We have overachieved this year in Europe so while this has been a very good run and a welcome distraction from the Scottish game, I think that the league has to be no1 priority Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacemaker7 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Yeah I know, but we might not get the chance of a European final for another 36 years and I'll be dead by then. So you know, still kinda would like to be there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleyjag Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 We're involved in the game so why shouldn't we give it our best shot? Sure the squad is lacking a lot of the players we need to have a chance of getting a result but hey, perhaps that'll spur on the players we do have and surprise us all. I don't want us to just write this game off without kicking a ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacemaker7 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Brines admits I cheated to let Celtic win 'I had to chop off the goal because I was afraid the Celtic fans would break my windows, and I've only just had them replaced.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleyjag Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Why would Diamond be "enraged"? Brines just put his boyhood heroes top of the league ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted April 22, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted April 22, 2008 I think this is where the run ends. Fiore are just too good a side to hold them to 0-0, would have been tough enough with a full squad, but with Lee McCulloch missing we really have no chance. Who thought the same about Werder Bremen and we pumped them 2-0 at home Here are Fiorentina's results in the UEFA Cup this season... FC Groningen 1-1 Fiorentina Fiorentina 1-1 FC Groningen Villarreal 1-1 Fiorentina Fiorentina 6-1 Elfsborg AEK Athens 1-1 Fiorentina Fiorentina 2-1 Mlada Boleslav Rosenborg 0-1 Fiorentina Fiorentina 2-1 Rosenborg Fiorentina 2-0 Everton Everton 2-0 Fiorentina Fiorentina 1-1 PSV PSV 0-2 Fiorentina Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacemaker7 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Originally posted by Caleyjag:Why would Diamond be "enraged"? Brines just put his boyhood heroes top of the league ffs. Well yeah. But even though I have no time for the sheep, one thing Diamond said that I do agree with was about how refs go back to their normal job on a monday morning and players are left to deal with the consequences of their mistakes. However, we need refs, people will make mistakes, whats the solution? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacemaker7 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Originally posted by Ter:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I think this is where the run ends. Fiore are just too good a side to hold them to 0-0, would have been tough enough with a full squad, but with Lee McCulloch missing we really have no chance. Who thought the same about Werder Bremen and we pumped them 2-0 at home Here are Fiorentina's results in the UEFA Cup this season... FC Groningen 1-1 Fiorentina Fiorentina 1-1 FC Groningen Villarreal 1-1 Fiorentina Fiorentina 6-1 Elfsborg AEK Athens 1-1 Fiorentina Fiorentina 2-1 Mlada Boleslav Rosenborg 0-1 Fiorentina Fiorentina 2-1 Rosenborg Fiorentina 2-0 Everton Everton 2-0 Fiorentina Fiorentina 1-1 PSV PSV 0-2 Fiorentina </div></BLOCKQUOTE> You do realise the McCulloch bit was pure sarcasm of course. I mean certainly Fiore look to be a side that have been a bit up and down in Europe, who knows mibbe they're forget to turn up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted April 22, 2008 Author Share Posted April 22, 2008 Season to be extended if we reach the final... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleyjag Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Originally posted by Peacemaker7:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Caleyjag: Why would Diamond be "enraged"? Brines just put his boyhood heroes top of the league ffs. Well yeah. But even though I have no time for the sheep, one thing Diamond said that I do agree with was about how refs go back to their normal job on a monday morning and players are left to deal with the consequences of their mistakes. However, we need refs, people will make mistakes, whats the solution? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Oh yeah, I mean I completely agree with the guy too. You can't even question the decisions without being punished which is completely unfair. Solution? Robots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted April 22, 2008 Author Share Posted April 22, 2008 http://www.scotprem.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10002~1295430,00.html Still means we'll have to play Saturday, Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday but I guess it's better than nothing. Just. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacemaker7 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Still a ridiculous to play so many games in a week. Still, if we get the f'ing finger out and start playing again those last two games will be meaningless anyway. Queen of the South apparantly have no games for a few weeks before the Cup final, perhaps they could play the St Midden game for us as a warm up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted April 22, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted April 22, 2008 Jings! Probably the right thing to do to have an alternative schedule depending on what happens with the UEFA Cup. Trying to get my head round it now. If we reach the UEFA Cup Final THU 24 APR: Fiorentina (H) - UEFA Cup Semi Final Leg 1 SUN 27 APR: Celtic (A) – SPL THU 01 MAY: Fiorentina (A) - UEFA Cup Semi Final Leg 2 SUN 04 MAY: Hibernian (A) – SPL WED 07 MAY: Motherwell (H) - SPL SAT 10 MAY: Dundee Utd (H) – SPL WED 14 MAY: Bayern/Zenit - UEFA Cup Final SAT 17 MAY: Motherwell (A) - SPL TUE 20 MAY: St Mirren (A) – SPL THU 22 MAY: Aberdeen (A) - SPL SAT 24 MAY: Queen Of The South (N) – Scottish Cup Final If we don't reach the UEFA Cup Final THU 24 APR: Fiorentina (H) - UEFA Cup Semi Final Leg 1 SUN 27 APR: Celtic (A) – SPL THU 01 MAY: Fiorentina (A) - UEFA Cup Semi Final Leg 2 SUN 04 MAY: Hibernian (A) – SPL WED 07 MAY: Motherwell (H) - SPL SAT 10 MAY: Dundee Utd (H) – SPL TUE 13 MAY: St Mirren (A) – SPL THU 15 MAY: Motherwell (A) - SPL SUN 18 MAY: Aberdeen (A) - SPL SAT 24 MAY: Queen Of The South (N) – Scottish Cup Final Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacemaker7 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Bit ridiculous to move the final games to Thursday just to accomodate Rangers, could they not play Motherwell, St Mirren and Aberdeen all on the same day? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Originally posted by Peacemaker7:Queen of the South apparantly have no games for a few weeks before the Cup final, perhaps they could play the St Midden game for us as a warm up. Unlike you we are trying to organise games to play to keep us sharp. Scouting for friendlies last I heard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted April 22, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted April 22, 2008 Unlike you we are trying to organise games to play to keep us sharp. Scouting for friendlies last I heard Have yous not already played our reserves at one point earlier this season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacemaker7 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Originally posted by Doonhamer:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Peacemaker7: Queen of the South apparantly have no games for a few weeks before the Cup final, perhaps they could play the St Midden game for us as a warm up. Unlike you we are trying to organise games to play to keep us sharp. Scouting for friendlies last I heard </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Mibbe you should be asking for the Cup Final to be brought forward Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted April 22, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted April 22, 2008 Originally posted by Ter:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Unlike you we are trying to organise games to play to keep us sharp. Scouting for friendlies last I heard Have yous not already played our reserves at one point earlier this season? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Yeah, thought I could remember it... http://www.rangers.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Match/ActionShots/0,,5~1105889,00.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo22 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 I see timbo is going into meltdown over the decision to "extend" the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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