TM Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Club chairman reiterated his itention that he was still strongly committed to club and was prepared to invest into its future - both in the short and long term aye who are you kidding Murray eh? surprised there is no mention of the pathetic bids he and Bain are putting in to clubs, knowing they won't get players because clubs are disgusted by the offers, I know there isn't a lot of money there and I expect 99% of Gers fans can appreciate that because of the financial implications over the last 5-10 years - but some of the bids (not talking about Faubert here) have just been embarassing Faubert was simply because West Ham can afford to spend money freely due to the Premiership but having to make 3 bids to get Naismith and then finding out how embarassing they've been is just not what we should be doing. Clubs are going to work out (if they haven't by now) what we are doing when we go for a player and say "go away" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibroxhero Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Thinking of getting Freeview setanta but I wanted to check if Setanta show all the SPL and EPL and french and german games on setanta 1? I also assume french and german are delayed as 'live' games. Also is there a highlights package? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted July 5, 2007 SI Staff Share Posted July 5, 2007 Squad (and numbers) from the official site 01 MCGREGOR Allan 02 HUTTON Alan 03 WEIR David 04 BUFFEL Thomas 05 PAPAC Sasa 06 FERGUSON Barry 07 HEMDANI Brahim 08 THOMSON Kevin 09 BOYD Kris 10 NOVO Nacho 11 ADAM Charlie 12 EHIOGU Ugo 14 SIONKO Libor 15 GOW Alan 16 SMITH Graeme 17 BURKE Chris 18 MURRAY Ian 19 BEASLEY DaMarcus 20 DARCHEVILLE Jean-Claude 21 BROADFOOT Kirk 22 WEBSTER Andy 23 SEBO Filip 26 SMITH Steven 28 PONROY Antoine 34 ROBINSON Lee 41 LOWING Alan 42 LENNON Steven 44 EMSLIE Paul 45 CAMPBELL Steven 47 FURMAN Dean 48 GILMOUR Brian 49 MCMILLAN Jordan 58 GALLACHER Scott 59 SHINNIE Andrew 63 PERRY Ross -- EFREM Georgios Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidmar14 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 i love that name, DaMarcus lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan Kenobi Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Yay, Boyd finally number 9! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovenkrands01 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 10 NOVO Nacho He's obviously in Walts plans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Originally posted by Obi-Wan Kenobi:Yay, Boyd finally number 9! Boyd might have a hop over to FF and see the outrage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan Kenobi Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Originally posted by lovenkrands01:10 NOVO Nacho He's obviously in Walts plans. Not necessarily, it was his number from last year so unless a player specifically requests a change (like Boyd) then they'll usually get the same number from last season. Plus, we've only signed the one forward thus far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFurball Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 What the **** are we doing with this Naismith bid? Kilmarnock reject our bid, so we go straight back with a more or less identical bid. Bain is a ****ing muppet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 he needs to be sacked and get Murray gone although I've noticed Killie have raised the price to £2m, not that I really blame them for our pathetic negotations and seeing what we spend on Thomson/Celtic spent on Brown I wonder who our "rival" for him is now, as if I didn't know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFurball Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Originally posted by TM:he needs to be sacked and get Murray gone although I've noticed Killie have raised the price to £2m, not that I really blame them for our pathetic negotations and seeing what we spend on Thomson/Celtic spent on Brown I wonder who our "rival" for him is now, as if I didn't know If we hadn't made such a pathetic original bid for him, we may have him by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidmar14 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Cuellar is in glasgow to sign Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted July 6, 2007 Author Share Posted July 6, 2007 Originally posted by Vidmar14:Cuellar is in glasgow to sign An excellent signing. Now for a few more and we should be able to mount a much stronger challenge come August. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwater sunlight Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 surely bain and murray must realise they are going to ruin walters signing plans by offering crappy bids for players. it seems that we are happy enough to offer out more money for players outside the SPL but when its a scottish club, despite the fact they have league experience, the purse strings are tightened. im sure killie would be more prepared to accept the money on offer if it was in one go, rather than treating them like a catalogue, offering all sorts of installments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorg Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Originally posted by Frankie:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Vidmar14: Cuellar is in glasgow to sign An excellent signing. Now for a few more and we should be able to mount a much stronger challenge come August. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Will there be many more though? We will probably get McCulloch which I don't mind but would rather not have to pay £2.5 million. Really hope Naismith comes but looks like that ship has sailed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Exclusive! Cuellar Joins Gers WALTER SMITH has secured the services of highly-rated Spanish star Carlos Cuellar as he continues to formulate his squad for the new campaign. The Osasuna defender, who played against Rangers in last season's UEFA Cup, jetted in last night to seal the deal and undergo a medical. Now Cuellar, who has signed a four-year contract, will join his new team mates this weekend after becoming the sixth new capture since the tail end of last season, following the signings of Jean-Claude Darcheville, DaMarcus Beasley, Graeme Smith, Kirk Broadfoot and Alan Gow. Rangers became aware of Cuellar when they went to watch Osasuna ahea do the last 16 clash in the UEFA Cup and subsequently kept tabs on him. Snith believes he is landing an excellent player who also has a terrific future in the game given that he is still only 25. Smith said: "We're delighted to sign Carlos. We were impressed with him when we went to watch Osasuna before our UEFA Cup tie and also in the tie itself. "We then followed up on that and decided to make an offer to Osasuna. I'm very pleased that we have now done the deal and I feel sure he will be an excellent addition to our squad." COMING UP - EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEWS WITH CARLOS AND WALTER ON WORLD! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwater sunlight Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 waiting for the announcement that we cant afford naismith, shortly followed by lee mcculloch's signing for £2m plus extras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted July 6, 2007 Author Share Posted July 6, 2007 Originally posted by Jorg:Will there be many more though? We will probably get McCulloch which I don't mind but would rather not have to pay £2.5 million. Really hope Naismith comes but looks like that ship has sailed. I reckon we'll sign another 4 players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Wow, some long-termism from our heirarchy. Decent age for a centre-half, plenty of experience at the highest level, evident desire to come here, not too pricey. Really can't argue with that signing. Should make the baying mob less restless for oh... about an hour! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacemaker7 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Wasn't particularly bothered by the Faubert thing as tbh I didn't like his attitude anyway and spending the sort of money Bordeaux wanted was never gonna happen anyway - another of the Murray hey we tried to get this player but it wasn't our fault excuses. However the Naismith saga has gone on way too long, either give Kilmarnock what they want or get the feck out of the deal its a piece of nonsense. If you want a player, you pay the price clearly then the club don't really want Naismith for some reason. As to the overall picture, whilst I didn't think Celtic were that good a side last year they have added something to their squad and for now at least I think they start quite clearly ahead of us in terms of quality. Right now my money is on them winning the title, but we shall see won't we. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacemaker7 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 And yeah quite pleased Cuellar has come he should be a decent player for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidmar14 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 We need some flair in midfield/front Ideally a player lke what we all wanted Buffel to be when he came but it turns out he's built like a 12 year old girl and not as strong. Still want more pace in the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 the most surprising thing about this transfer has been the post on FF about him being at a hotel and a deal to be completed in the morning was completely 100% right especially considering the rumours about Naismith and the Brown stuff that was going on/is still going (well Naismith, not Brown) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibroxhero Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 We've bid for Whittaker. From Evening Times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan Kenobi Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Originally posted by ibroxhero:We've bid for Whittaker. I can't believe we're willing to bid that much for him but not for Scotland's young player of the year? Total madness.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Could be viewed as Whittaker(position wise) is more a priority than Naismith. Hence shelling out more money on him than another forward in Naisy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibroxhero Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 He can play rb and rmf so it's like getting two players and only paying for one. Thats what Bain & Murray are probably thinking Although that could be good. I don't want Hutton displaced as he was awesome at the end of last season. ---------------- When is the new away kit out? Looks pretty smart this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovenkrands01 Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 July 10th mate, according to JJB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzza Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Havent seen the away shirt, anyone got a pic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovenkrands01 Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Here you go mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzza Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Does look pretty nice actually Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambie\'s Lovechild Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 You know, watching from over here on the Isle of Man, I cannae help but wonder whats happened to Rangers over the last 5 years. McLeish wasnt a good manager, but he did have a bit of luck and inherited what was essentially a decent squad from Advocaat. Trouble was, you cant have a manager that buys bargains come in to replace a chequebook manager. A title and a few cups papered over the cracks, and Murray's days of bankrolling the club appear well and truly over. Share Issues and the like dont bring the same result that they do over in the East End. Cant remember the exact stats (im sure someone here can pop them in) but the takeup on the last one from the same fans that are barracking Murray for not investing was quite truly pitiful. Would Gers fans say that theyve been asked for enough money, or are Rangers suffering from the rather unfortunate trait of Glory hunters switching sides when things start to change. In fact, I cant remember the last time, as a Jags fan, we signed more players in the summer than Rangers. I honestly wish that the squad was stronger, deeper, and more able to compete with Celtic this season. Years back, Murray said that "A strong Rangers needs a Strong Celtic to move the club on". The acquisition of Cuellar and Darcheville, and associated "Squad Players" isnt going to move the club onto the next phase of the Champions League, or win them back the title IMO. Then again, I wouldnt have backed Motherwell to put Celtic to the sword a few seasons back and hand Rangers a league title. Might even be enough to persuade me to buy a Setanta subscription this season. Although itll be a decade or two at the current rate before I can watch the Jags on there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Coo Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Victory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc1873 Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Originally posted by Hairy Coo:Victory We know. Also, will he not end up going to celtic or someone anyway so you lose anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Coo Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Him leaving isn't rally the issue tbh, its more to do with us finally not caving to the Old Firm. We stcuk to our valuation. If he happens to leave when we get an offer that matches the fee asked then fine, be it Rangers, Celtic or whoever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 if he doesn't go this season, we'll get him next so not a huge loss and for less of the cash as that contract will be running down, unless he signs a new one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc1873 Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Ah ok, well played then I guess. Should never have needed more than one bid in the first place. Shambles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Coo Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 He signed up till 2010 so it won't make any difference imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Originally posted by marc1873:Ah ok, well played then I guess. Should never have needed more than one bid in the first place. Shambles. it is Murray and the suntan man Bain probably look on those shopping TV channels to see if any footballers are on them with the penny pinching they do - and yeah we bought Cuellar, but that was probably the most expensive we'll go (unless they do give Wigan that 2.5m) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc1873 Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Never know, we might end up going back and matching your valuation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Toner Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Gers Sign Carroll Exclusive by Lindsay Herron WALTER SMITH has further boosted his squad by signing experienced keeper Roy Carroll on a one-year contract. The Ulsterman was a free agent after being released by West Ham and chief executive Martin Bain concluded an agreement today and the keeper passed a medical. Smith worked with Carroll two years ago at Manchester United when he worked with Sir Alex Ferguson for a short period and knows all about his capablities. Carroll, a lifelong Rangers fan, jumped at the chance to join up and will fight with Allan McGregor and Graeme Smith for the jersey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc1873 Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Originally posted by TM:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by marc1873: Ah ok, well played then I guess. Should never have needed more than one bid in the first place. Shambles. it is Murray and the suntan man Bain probably look on those shopping TV channels to see if any footballers are on them with the penny pinching they do - and yeah we bought Cuellar, but that was probably the most expensive we'll go (unless they do give Wigan that 2.5m) </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Only 2.5? i reckon we should offer 4 mil plus for McCulloch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Would be mildly surprised if that's the end of the issue from our point of view. Hopefully it is as I'm sick fed up hearing about it now. We've missed out on better players in this window alone. Can't see him not going somewhere. All the Killie's quotes suggest they're desperate to get him shifted while his stock is good. Poor boy will probably go and sit in Celtic reserves for the next couple of seasons then be punted to Ipswich or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc1873 Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Forgot the safety wink Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 the Carroll signing, free is Murray's favourite word I guess still he's an aright backup in my opinion, certainly capable in the SPL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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underwater sunlight Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 carrol isnt a bad saigning, especially with a european campaign to contend with. his experience will be valuable, however i would still like to see macgregor as first choice. he proved he is capable last season, and will surely improve the more he plays. i wouldnt be surprised if we offer a half decent bid for naismith later on in the month. murray and bain are being a bit tight in regards to their valuation, but he isnt a priority squad wise, but im guessing they are banking on killie spending a bit of cash (about a fiver) and anticipating money being made from naismith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted July 7, 2007 Author Share Posted July 7, 2007 Originally posted by Lambie's Lovechild:Share Issues and the like dont bring the same result that they do over in the East End. Cant remember the exact stats (im sure someone here can pop them in) but the takeup on the last one from the same fans that are barracking Murray for not investing was quite truly pitiful. Would Gers fans say that theyve been asked for enough money, or are Rangers suffering from the rather unfortunate trait of Glory hunters switching sides when things start to change. The Rangers fans didn't buy into the last share issue because basically Murray was asking for the fans to pay for his mistakes. Add to that the way ENIC, Joe Lewis and Dave King lost their cash, the high-net worth support (and many ordinary fans) were never going to bail Murray out to the tune of £50million. In addition, the Rangers fans certainly cannot be accused of being glory hunters. The last 2 seasons have been woeful. The standard of football has been well below average, the match-day experience stale and generally value for money isn't too positive. We've not won the league for 2 years and haven't contested a final for longer. We're not at our best is a conservative way of describing things. However, season ticket sales remain at record levels. As such, the commitment from the fans isn't the problem here. In saying that, things may change over the next couple of months from those at the top. We've all heard it before and it gets quite tedious to hear the same promises and the same rhetoric from the same people. As such, the challenge remains and for those Rangers fans (like myself) who grew up with only success as a barometer it gets increasingly difficult to be positive and to believe in our club. Nonetheless, Ibrox will be full again this season and we're more than capable of bringing back the good times. Another few signings will help facilitate that. As usual. I can't wait to find out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 In addition, the Rangers fans certainly cannot be accused of being glory hunters. The last 2 seasons have been woeful. The standard of football has been well below average, the match-day experience stale and generally value for money isn't too positive. We've not won the league for 2 years and haven't contested a final for longer. We're not at our best is a conservative way of describing things. to be honest, we've been terrible since the great team of 2003 and that last day title win 2005 was just a bit of luck and Celtic bottling it pretty much, yeah I know it was great that Helicopter Sunday but it's been a little light of success for what has been a frustrating 7 years since MON took over at Celtic except for those 2 title wins and some Europe success probably only two people to blame for that, our former manager before Alex McLeish and Sir David "smoke and mirrors club" Murray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted July 7, 2007 Author Share Posted July 7, 2007 Oh I would never claim the standard has been above woeful since the turn of the century but at least we have had the successes to keep an slight element of respectability in our trophy room. There may well have been a bit of luck in those successes but we still had to do our bit and we should never underplay those achievements. Like I say, no matter who was (and still is) to blame for our current troubles, the loyalty of the fans cannot be questioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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