eldiego1984 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Not offside, Salpingidis should have scored Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 more of the "European standards" there, McCulloch never touched the keeper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan petrov Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Originally posted by TM:more of the "European standards" there, McCulloch never touched the keeper sure about that? Rangers fans such victims btw, booing every single decision te greeks get Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbc_89 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Broadfoot casually blasting the ball out for a corner under no pressure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Originally posted by fbc_89:Broadfoot casually blasting the ball out for a corner under no pressure given no shout by anyone? and other fans in the world don't boo the opposition? yup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzza Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Unlucky wee Nacho, could have had a penalty there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketheheadlesschicken Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 That surely wasn't a Scottish commentator encouraging diving? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan petrov Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 What a detestable **** Charlie Adam is, just booted the ball into the opposition dugout entertaining game so far, better than that everton game anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbc_89 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Originally posted by TM:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fbc_89: Broadfoot casually blasting the ball out for a corner under no pressure given no shout by anyone? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Not trying to criticise him or anything, bizarre situation what with their attacker giving up and walking away and all. The Panathanaikos keeper has looked very decent, pretty drab game otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyssien Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 That guy Novo is fast and strong, I am impressed. Can't score though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldiego1984 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 it's been a very strange game for us... we play with three dm's, simao, tziolis and matos and karagounis can't give us the through ball... If Peseiro gets Gonzalez in for Tziolis, we will work better on the offensive front. At the back the only problem is Novo and Goumas. Whenever Novo goes near him, we are in all kind of troubles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzza Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Originally posted by Lyssien:That guy Novo is fast and strong, I am impressed. Can't score though. Not played much since coming back from injury, so a bit rusty. If he keeps getting the chances he will put one away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyssien Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Originally posted by fbc_89:The Panathanaikos keeper has looked very decent, pretty drab game otherwise. Galinovic only lets in the easy ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyssien Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Eldiego, if Gonzalez comes in for Tziolis, we may be better offensively, but it's not going to look good at the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldiego1984 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Either way all the chances of Rangers come from our right... So put Kara there as a third dm and get Gonzales to make through balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldiego1984 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 on a side note, i 'm a part timer now Match threads ftw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Booed off the field. You are the people! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyssien Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Good game, guys. I liked Novo and Cuellar from the Rangers. Also, Cousin looks huge, but didn't play much. Galinovic for MVP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldiego1984 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 good result but we played really ****... i quite fancy a 0-0 in the 90 mins on the rematch... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 what a pile of pish lets hope Panathinaikos are as baws as finishing as they were tonight in a week's time. Should have started with McCulloch upfront with Burke/Naismith alongside him, would have pushed a bit more than we did all night boring, turgid long ball from Adam to McCulloch as predicted before - Adam then got punted and we actually looked a bit better with chances appearing, Novo's lack of match practice costing us though. Really can't understand why we tend to make the final sub (usually somebody who might go at the man and create) in the last 10 minutes and it becomes a "charge!" situation, even Eck did the exact same must be some tactic that only Scottish managers seem to like should have went to Greece with a lead, but because of bad tactics and poor finishing, going to be tough in Greece - although we didn't conceed at least, so a goal in Greece can make all the difference. Thought the defence was pretty good tonight though, Broadfoot should be teaching Burke and Adam how to cross Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Originally posted by Anton:Booed off the field. You are the people! Do you and theholyone get a special bus to school? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 interesting game in Germany btw, Bremen won 3-0 however Braga missed two pens in the first half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketheheadlesschicken Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Thought Rangers looked more concerned with not conceding rather than looking to score. Made for a dull game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan Kenobi Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Pretty drab game overall. Showed again why we need a player with a bit of spark and someone that can take players on. It got better with Burke & Cousin on, but it was too late to really make an impact. Novo did well and was unlucky not to put one of his chances away. It'll be tough getting through now without taking a lead over there, might even go beyond the 90 mins if the finishing tonight was anything to go by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty_8 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Okay, heres some rumours ive been told concerning Kris Boyd and Chris Burke. Before anyone has a go at me for it being a load of crap, i heard it from a reliable source who has relatives within Ibrox. Well, the two players supposedly were caught dabbling in some cocaine earlier on this season. This would explain their ommissions from the squad at beginning of season. But Burke has been able to come off it, and appeared "out of the blue" into the first team. Boyd however is still struggling to come away from it. This would explain why Walt is dropping our top goalscorer so much. Yes, i know there are other reasons why he is left out of the 433 formation, but if this is true then it could be the main factor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrski Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Your talking as if they are cocaine addicts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFurball Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Originally posted by matty_8:Okay, heres some rumours ive been told concerning Kris Boyd and Chris Burke. Before anyone has a go at me for it being a load of crap, i heard it from a reliable source who has relatives within Ibrox. Well, the two players supposedly were caught dabbling in some cocaine earlier on this season. This would explain their ommissions from the squad at beginning of season. But Burke has been able to come off it, and appeared "out of the blue" into the first team. Boyd however is still struggling to come away from it. This would explain why Walt is dropping our top goalscorer so much. Yes, i know there are other reasons why he is left out of the 433 formation, but if this is true then it could be the main factor. Nonsense. Boyd has been in the matchday 18 in the majority of games, possibly even every game. If he was on the Columbian marching powder, there would be no way he would be in the squad, due to the risks of a positive drugs test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOORAY HENRIK Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Had Dame Ndoye ever played football before this game? Maurice looked a good defender though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
celtic_fc Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 was at the game tonight as my mates had a spare ticket and i felt like a good booze session. i was hoping you lot do well in europe as it might distract you from the league but after watching that sh*t i doubt you lot will go any further. Why walter never played burke from the start i will never know, he is the one player that offers you something different and is always good for an assist or the odd goal. Also why take off adams and push mc culloch out wide instead of leaving two up front, to me it seemed like rangers needed a goal at home to have any chance of getting through to the next round yet walter seemed more concerned with conceding a goal from the start. I know not conceding at home in europe is important but the greeks are dangerous on their own turf and i felt you needed a lead to have any chance of getting through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 Originally posted by matty_8:Okay, heres some rumours ive been told concerning Kris Boyd and Chris Burke. Before anyone has a go at me for it being a load of crap, i heard it from a reliable source who has relatives within Ibrox. Well, the two players supposedly were caught dabbling in some cocaine earlier on this season. This would explain their ommissions from the squad at beginning of season. But Burke has been able to come off it, and appeared "out of the blue" into the first team. Boyd however is still struggling to come away from it. This would explain why Walt is dropping our top goalscorer so much. Yes, i know there are other reasons why he is left out of the 433 formation, but if this is true then it could be the main factor. With respect - that's utter, utter nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 As for the game itself - only a combination of bad finishing and good goalkeeping stopped us winning at least 3 - 0. I'd say the tactics, while overly conservative; and the team selection, while not to my tastes; worked reasonably well in terms of creating chances and reducing Pana's own dangers. We're more than capable of winning over there and the constant negativity really is starting to grate on other forums. Mind you we're not the only fans needing to take a pinch of realism with their analysis of games... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted February 14, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted February 14, 2008 was at the game tonight as my mates had a spare ticket and i felt like a good booze session. i was hoping you lot do well in europe as it might distract you from the league but after watching that sh*t i doubt you lot will go any further. Why walter never played burke from the start i will never know, he is the one player that offers you something different and is always good for an assist or the odd goal. Also why take off adams and push mc culloch out wide instead of leaving two up front, to me it seemed like rangers needed a goal at home to have any chance of getting through to the next round yet walter seemed more concerned with conceding a goal from the start. I know not conceding at home in europe is important but the greeks are dangerous on their own turf and i felt you needed a lead to have any chance of getting through. Were you watching the same game as me? Are you mental? Rangers played quite well and created some good chances and their keeper had a great game. We were hardly troubled. And Charlie Adam (not Adams) was utter pish and kept giving the ball away. Davis gave the ball away too much as well and probably would have been replaced if we had anyone to bring on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Originally posted by Frankie: Mind you we're not the only fans needing to take a pinch of realism with their analysis of games... I don't know about you mate but I am deeply touched that so many of them are concerned about us Agree with everyone else about Adam who has been shocking every time I have seen him lately, although I would say Hemdani and Ferguson gave the ball away more times than I have ever seen either of them as well. We're not helped by having two full backs pushing on when neither of them is much good at distributing the ball - not a criticism of Broadfoot or Papac who are doing all that can be asked of them, but they are out and out defenders so a killer cross is rare from them. At least that will improve as and when the first choice full backs are available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorg Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Charlie Adam, is anyone of the same opinion as me? If he was right footed he would be playing in the first division. I thought he would progress but seems to be going backwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyssien Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Originally posted by HOORAY HENRIK:Had Dame Ndoye ever played football before this game? Maurice looked a good defender though. N'Doye is from Senegal and this is his first year in Europe, so he 's still trying to adjust. But he is very talented, so I have high hopes for him. He didn't have a good game yesterday, that's for sure. Nasief Morris is out only fast DC. He is good, but sometimes does stupid stuff. It 's weird. Although you really had the edge on physical play, you never really took advantage of it. Both Novo and McSomething are stronger than all our defenders, but hardly made use of their strength. I think your back line stayed so much behind because our fast striker Salpingidis is faster than everyone on your team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted February 14, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted February 14, 2008 I think your back line stayed so much behind because our fast striker Salpingidis is faster than everyone on your team. He's not faster than David Weir. Pace - 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyssien Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Originally posted by Ter:He's not faster than David Weir. Pace - 20 OK, then. But still, we had two good through balls yesterday that were both swept by your goalkeeper. If your back line wasn't as deep, there would be no goalkeeper there. Where was Weir? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Originally posted by Ter:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I think your back line stayed so much behind because our fast striker Salpingidis is faster than everyone on your team. He's not faster than David Weir. Pace - 20 </div></BLOCKQUOTE> that is minus 20 isnt it? I dont see Rangers often enough to make a sound judgement but could someone tell me why Adam seems to be the first name on the teamsheet these days. He is not a winger because he is not fast enough and cant cross and he is not creative or mobile enough to be a midfielder. He cannot be kept in the team on the off chance that we get a feee kick on the edge of their box can he? How many chances of continued mediocrity does he get? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan Kenobi Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Originally posted by FrazT:I dont see Rangers often enough to make a sound judgement but could someone tell me why Adam seems to be the first name on the teamsheet these days. How many chances of continued mediocrity does he get? Adam hasn't been great at times, and I sometimes cringe watching him when he's on the park, but I can only assume Walter sees him as the next Hutton and thinks he will bloom within the next 6-12 months. I remember a few years back there'd be similar moans when Hutton was on the teamsheet and we know how he turned out. I'm alright with Adam getting a shot, is hasn't cost us dear yet, and until he does something utterly stupid that costs us big, then he'll keep playing every few games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theholyone Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Originally posted by Lyssien:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HOORAY HENRIK: Had Dame Ndoye ever played football before this game? Maurice looked a good defender though. N'Doye is from Senegal and this is his first year in Europe, so he 's still trying to adjust. But he is very talented, so I have high hopes for him. He didn't have a good game yesterday, that's for sure. Nasief Morris is out only fast DC. He is good, but sometimes does stupid stuff. It 's weird. Although you really had the edge on physical play, you never really took advantage of it. Both Novo and McSomething are stronger than all our defenders, but hardly made use of their strength. I think your back line stayed so much behind because our fast striker Salpingidis is faster than everyone on your team. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Why did Panathinkos not start with there best 11? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theholyone Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Originally posted by celtic_fc:was at the game tonight as my mates had a spare ticket and i felt like a good booze session. i was hoping you lot do well in europe as it might distract you from the league but after watching that sh*t i doubt you lot will go any further. Why walter never played burke from the start i will never know, he is the one player that offers you something different and is always good for an assist or the odd goal. Also why take off adams and push mc culloch out wide instead of leaving two up front, to me it seemed like rangers needed a goal at home to have any chance of getting through to the next round yet walter seemed more concerned with conceding a goal from the start. I know not conceding at home in europe is important but the greeks are dangerous on their own turf and i felt you needed a lead to have any chance of getting through. May I just say,A 'Celtic'fan going to Ibrox sitting with the Rangers supporters,wanting them to win is vile and I hope you don't return to Parkhead...ever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldiego1984 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Originally posted by theholyone:Why did Panathinkos not start with there best 11? Nah, we started with our best "defensive" 11 lineup. The only one missing was Sariegi for Goumas. In the rematch, Ivansits is going to start on the left side, Simao on the bench, and probably upfront it will be Salpingidis and Postiga or Manucho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theholyone Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Originally posted by eldiego1984:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by theholyone: Why did Panathinkos not start with there best 11? Nah, we started with our best "defensive" 11 lineup. The only one missing was Sariegi for Goumas. In the rematch, Ivansits is going to start on the left side, Simao on the bench, and probably upfront it will be Salpingidis and Postiga or Manucho. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> what about the argetine playermaker you have?where was he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldiego1984 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 he has been out for a year (Equi Gonzalez). He is slowly coming back, and has played two full 90mins in the Greek League, but he is not ready yet for the Uefa... Maybe against Werder he will play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Originally posted by theholyone:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by celtic_fc: was at the game tonight as my mates had a spare ticket and i felt like a good booze session. i was hoping you lot do well in europe as it might distract you from the league but after watching that sh*t i doubt you lot will go any further. Why walter never played burke from the start i will never know, he is the one player that offers you something different and is always good for an assist or the odd goal. Also why take off adams and push mc culloch out wide instead of leaving two up front, to me it seemed like rangers needed a goal at home to have any chance of getting through to the next round yet walter seemed more concerned with conceding a goal from the start. I know not conceding at home in europe is important but the greeks are dangerous on their own turf and i felt you needed a lead to have any chance of getting through. May I just say,A 'Celtic'fan going to Ibrox sitting with the Rangers supporters,wanting them to win is vile and I hope you don't return to Parkhead...ever </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I hope you don't return to Planet Earth...ever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyssien Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Originally posted by theholyone:Why did Panathinkos not start with there best 11? To add to what Eldiego already explained, Ivanschitz (AM L) was benched, probably because Peseiro wanted to field three defensive midfileders (Mattos, Tziolis, Simao). Other than that, Peseiro also likes to rotate a lot (he even rotates goalkeepers!). In the rematch, I too expect Ivanchitz instead of Simao. Gonzalez may come in as a sub, if we are in dire need of a goal (or two). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankJJ Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Originally posted by theholyone:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by celtic_fc: was at the game tonight as my mates had a spare ticket and i felt like a good booze session. i was hoping you lot do well in europe as it might distract you from the league but after watching that sh*t i doubt you lot will go any further. Why walter never played burke from the start i will never know, he is the one player that offers you something different and is always good for an assist or the odd goal. Also why take off adams and push mc culloch out wide instead of leaving two up front, to me it seemed like rangers needed a goal at home to have any chance of getting through to the next round yet walter seemed more concerned with conceding a goal from the start. I know not conceding at home in europe is important but the greeks are dangerous on their own turf and i felt you needed a lead to have any chance of getting through. May I just say,A 'Celtic'fan going to Ibrox sitting with the Rangers supporters,wanting them to win is vile and I hope you don't return to Parkhead...ever </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Nothing wrong with going to Ibrox, I got invited to the Lyon game for hospitality. I did find it quite amusing what happened after having the Gretna game postponed, but as there was no direct competition with Celtic I would have had no problem if Rangers had won. And he is more than welcome at CP anytime as he seems to be able to conduct himself in an appropriate manner in company! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacemaker7 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Originally posted by theholyone:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by celtic_fc: was at the game tonight as my mates had a spare ticket and i felt like a good booze session. i was hoping you lot do well in europe as it might distract you from the league but after watching that sh*t i doubt you lot will go any further. Why walter never played burke from the start i will never know, he is the one player that offers you something different and is always good for an assist or the odd goal. Also why take off adams and push mc culloch out wide instead of leaving two up front, to me it seemed like rangers needed a goal at home to have any chance of getting through to the next round yet walter seemed more concerned with conceding a goal from the start. I know not conceding at home in europe is important but the greeks are dangerous on their own turf and i felt you needed a lead to have any chance of getting through. May I just say,A 'Celtic'fan going to Ibrox sitting with the Rangers supporters,wanting them to win is vile and I hope you don't return to Parkhead...ever </div></BLOCKQUOTE> You really are an obnoxious waste of space, why don't you get a grip and grow up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibroxhero Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Team for today: McGregor Broadfoot Cuellar Weir Papac Burke Fergie Hemdani McCulloch Boyd Darch Subs: Alexander Dailly Davis Novo Naismith Furman Fleck Back to 442 with Boydy starting. Maybe just maybe a chance of seeing Fleck or Furman for that matter if we can get to 3-0 up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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