My boss offered me a raise, I said only if I get a 5mill bonus as well

[KrookDale]

There is a thing in the game that has been annoying me to no end. If I want to increase the wage of my players, I have to negotiate an entirely new contract with sign-on fees and bonuses, even if the contract isn't extended. 

How absurd is this? You offer a player 50% pay increase, no catches whatsoever, and he won't even consider it unless you give him and his agent 10 million quid as a bonus also.

Not only is it illogical, it's also an entirely incorrect depiction of the football world - there have been plenty of examples of players getting wage increases without extending their contract.

 

TLDR: If you want to give a player or staff member a pay increase, with no other changes, you shouldn't also have to pay them a huge sign-on fee.

[Cougar2010]

8 minutes ago, KrookDale said:

TLDR: If you want to give a player or staff member a pay increase, with no other changes, you shouldn't also have to pay them a huge sign-on fee.

and you can do that but they may also reject your offer.

[KrookDale]

32 minutes ago, Cougar2010 said:

and you can do that but they may also reject your offer.

Well technically you can, but in reality you can't. Only way they'll accept is if you pay them double or triple what they want.

[hluraven]

Presumably, the reason you are trying to up their wages is to reward them for great performances, and/or to stop other clubs coming in for them.

In either case, they are entitled to re-negotiate their contract as expectations have clearly changed from when you first agreed one. This is obvious, as you wouldn't be giving them a pay rise for nothing (that would be the illogical and unrealistic bit).

I would also be interested in the real life examples of a player getting a pay rise, with absolutely no other change to a contract, not bonus, clause, fee or anything else! Agents are also entitled to a share if that happens, and they aren't often known to forego their cut.

But, I routinely extend contracts for the same/less wages, and after negotiating you can up pay without too much problem on the same contract if you want. Unless the player has every right to want a huge rise in all terms, in which case it would be unrealistic not to ask this for them.

TLDR: The only reason you would want to up a players pay is to ward off other clubs. In this position, the player has the bargaining power not you. Not signing the deal makes a move elsewhere more likely, where they can get bigger terms and signing fees than from you.