knap Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Tested with Arsenal Attacking ¬FM17.3.1KnapBLUEMATTER433P102_253E59D4-BC4B-4EC7-9C51-06959C396A0E.fmf Standard ¬FM17.3.1KnapBLUEMATTER433P102STDP102_6DEC1FF2-9812-447A-8AD0-571441051389.fmf Burnley IWB ¬FM17.3.1KnapBLUEMATTER433P102STDP102BURNLEYP85_536D02E9-989D-49E5-808D-38AB1F872135.fmf Attacking results Standard results Burnley IWB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tottijim Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 127 goals?????undefeated????omg .....if this is not the best tactic u create then i will quit play fm!!!!!!! I want to see how many goals the strikers scored Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Scouser Tommy Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I love this. Although I'm gonna have to retrain all me wide players to be strikers now like! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wecantstopwewontstop Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Hey man, I am in the second division with Manisaspor from Turkish super lig. I will test and get back with results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wecantstopwewontstop Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Question: Are you using any OI? And what are your training if you can provide me with those details for a better test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 6, 2017 Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 I try not to use OIs so none in this case. AM for training press team talks. The tactic works with Ebbsfleet which is 6th tier, as I kike to do a quick test in LL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tottijim Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 With ebbsfleet u score like arsenal??is it stable cause have 4 at back and no 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog 83 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Not a bad start with this tactic. Played 2, scored 14 and conceded 0 I've been using the WB raw siena and that's amazing. I'm going to switch between the two. Thanks for another beauty Knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tottijim Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 with big teams u suggest switching the mentality from attacking to standard? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piaz88 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 this tactic is awesome! but against big teams i prefer standard over attacking. tried attacking away against arsenal and lost 1-3; reload and tried the same with standard and i won 7-3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossroader Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 I used to play with Bournemouth, i had a game against Chelsea and i read here to switch against bigger teams to standard mentality and i won 4:5. That tactic has huge potential even with low-table teams, great job Knap! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 6, 2017 Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 As I tested with Arsenal, changing mentality with a smaller club is logical. The ultimate is to drop to contain and see if a big turnover can be made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossroader Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Finished first season with Sheff Wed - media prediction 7th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Scouser Tommy Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 8 hours ago, knap said: As I tested with Arsenal, changing mentality with a smaller club is logical. The ultimate is to drop to contain and see if a big turnover can be made. Not huge giantkilling really but my Tranmere side beat Sunderland 5-1 in The EFL Cup. Everton in the next round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wecantstopwewontstop Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Oh man, I must say that I am pretty impressed with this tactic. I started using it at the beginning of the season. I let my assistant manager ( who isn't that good because i can't afford to get a good one ) take care of individual player training. The only thing he is good at is motivation talks, i let him take care of it coz he has high motivating. My players are really bad, media prediction 12th! Currently first place, JUST BEAT GALATASARAY ! AWAY !!! and made it to Quarter Final in Turkish Cup. Loving it. Not using any OIs The training I used until formation is fulled jelled in is. General Main focus = team cohesion intensity average scheduling, ball is on the third line with rest after the match day Match prep = main focus is match tactics after tactic familiarity is full I switched general main focus to balanced and average and move that ball on the fourth line and match prep focus to att. movement. If you have any questions please ask. Enjoy it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wecantstopwewontstop Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Lost against besiktas in the first round of quarter final, but wow i am proud of my team! look at the stats man! unlucky! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wecantstopwewontstop Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Absolutely insane! I think I just broke the game or something... Amazing job man, you just broke the game... or i did... somehow. I don't wanna continue with my current team tho, i am hoping to get a better job offer from a big team... haha End of season results, 37 goals... from a guy with 11 finishing Second best scorer 17 finishing and good pace so he played as a right striker, enes played up in the front, middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piaz88 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Wecantstopwewontstop said: Absolutely insane! I think I just broke the game or something... Amazing job man, you just broke the game... or i did... somehow. I don't wanna continue with my current team tho, i am hoping to get a better job offer from a big team... haha End of season results, 37 goals... from a guy with 11 finishing Second best scorer 17 finishing and good pace so he played as a right striker, enes played up in the front, middle. u play the tactic in attack or standard? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossroader Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Piaz88 use contain against bigger clubs, other option against stronger teams is standard mentality. Otherwise play with attacking mentality against equal or weaker teams. It's all up how your team will react using different mentality, sometimes i don't change it and i win. So use it wisely and have fun! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wecantstopwewontstop Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 5 hours ago, Piaz88 said: u play the tactic in attack or standard? I played attack no matter who it was against me. I don't like to back up just because I think or the game think that the other team is better than me, then you surely are going to get owned. I started every single game in attack but let's say i am winning and my players are really tired and it's 1-0 then I will switch to balanced or counter attack to make sure I am going to get the win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wecantstopwewontstop Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Alright! Here we go, here we go! Just got a job offer from Leicester City and they are having a bad season! Let's see what we can do ! This shall be fun... or maybe not! I will get back with results, they already played 16 games... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wecantstopwewontstop Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 First game in charge vs Manchester city, LET'S GOOO BABY! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tottijim Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 mate in attacking i consede a lot o goals.....but in standard it seems more solid at back... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wecantstopwewontstop Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Get defensers with good tackling, marking and pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 STANDARD tactic ¬FM17.3.1KnapBLUEMATTER433P102STDP102_6DEC1FF2-9812-447A-8AD0-571441051389.fmf¬FM17.3.1KnapBLUEMATTER433P102STDP102_6DEC1FF2-9812-447A-8AD0-571441051389.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardhck Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 do u use the same setpiece for all your tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 Most of the time - can depend upon formation as to which works best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLLL Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 @knap What kind of palyers do I need for CM At and CM Su? Should the CM Su be like an advanced playmaker or what? And the CM At? Thanks man u r great !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 For testing and often in LL, when I am still leaning about the players, I use quick pick, In general I prefer a defensive MC paired with attacking MC. With a 3 in Midfield a would use your creative midfielder at CM At with more defensive minded high work rate MCs either side as they need to cover WBs but also need to be providers. I will add a screenshot of a normal 3 in Midfield Ozil Ramsey Coquelin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tottijim Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 For a team media predection 10 th..whin one u propose??knap which one is more stable....cause i love that formation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 You could try Attacking Home standard away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardhck Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 which tactic you recommend to play barcelona in CL final ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 I've always just used the tactic I've used all season. If its got the team to final why change. Sometimes over 2 legs I may try contain if 1st leg away. I do try to SUS a bit earlier than normal against big teams if I have a good lead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcn Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Mr. Knap, thank you for your efforts on this - great work. I'm trying to figure out the type of strikers needed for this tactic. My initial assumptions: DLF = creative striker (good vision + passing) CF = strong striker (strong + heading) AF = the fast poacher kind of guy (speed + finishing) Is this correct interpreted? Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 1 hour ago, knap said: I've always just used the tactic I've used all season. If its got the team to final why change. Sometimes over 2 legs I may try contain if 1st leg away. I do try to SUS a bit earlier than normal against big teams if I have a good lead. Knap what does your AM normally set as the match prep when you opt for him to control it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 DLF = creative striker (good vision + passing) CF = strong striker (strong + heading) AF = the fast poacher kind of guy (speed + finishing) Fair interpretation although AMR/L ST players should work at DLF and CF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 The AM setting will depend on next opposition, with Arsenal it will be a lot of attacking movement, it is a minor boost and I cannot see a way of testing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 Tested with Burnley (enhanced) using IWBs ¬FM17.3.1KnapBLUEMATTER433P102STDP102BURNLEYP85_536D02E9-989D-49E5-808D-38AB1F872135.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tottijim Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 more solid with iwb?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share Posted April 9, 2017 IWBs tactics are more solid and should work at all levels, but not as exciting as all out attack with a top side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussex Hammer Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Hi Knap, great stuff as always. Something you might be interested in although not sure how it will run long term. Tried your attacking tactic and it was great going forward but ended up with a 3-3 away at Southampton and a 4-4 at home to Everton. Loved the football and I like to use wing backs so tried to see if I could make it a tad better defensively. So just tweaked it to a 4132 by dragging the AF back to the DM position as an Anchor-man and added mark tighter and tackle harder. Also took off "dribble more" on the CM S and BBM because the likes of Noble, Obiang and Nordveit aren't the best running with the ball. Left everything else the same and have had a couple of cracking results. Early days but hopeful. Great thing is Antonio has got 5 in 5 and he isn't even a striker but having to play him due to injuries. Three of them have been fantastic headers so keeping my fingers crossed that this might be a good formation and role for Carroll once he is back. Might add dribble more on the CM A as Lanzini is more that sort of player but might try that in match if the original isn't working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebast83 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Do you have a link of your tactics please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussex Hammer Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 27 minutes ago, sebast83 said: Do you have a link of your tactics please What mine? I'll add it if Knap's ok with it because it's his thread. You can just adjust his accordingly though as I mentioned the mere three changes to Knap's standard tactic anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share Posted April 9, 2017 I have tweaked the corner set up because of the AF to DM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share Posted April 9, 2017 94 PTS with Arsenal 79 pts with Burnley. ¬FM17.3.1KnapHammerBLUEMATTER433P94_B51DDE60-9368-4698-BB32-ECB46A81A71A.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share Posted April 9, 2017 Switched to Fluid ¬FM17.3.1KnapHammmerBLUEMATTER433P101_D0CC82CF-CE78-4FF2-9E77-08DFCD1D7747.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussex Hammer Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Any reason for the change to fluid Knap? I have never really understood team shapes as they all seem to play the same way to me!!! BTW, I forgot to mention I changed on the 4132 to Standard as a start match mentality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 10, 2017 Author Share Posted April 10, 2017 There is another strata the DM. All based on attack so will look at standard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardhck Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 i am with sky bet championship team, hard to find a CF to use in your burney 433 tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 10, 2017 Author Share Posted April 10, 2017 I do not bother with this pigeon hole role idea, so just a good fast forward. Try finding F9s in LL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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