UNOliva Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 I have a hard time dealing with big losses at home and upsets. I usually rage quit which just ruins it for me since its practically cheating and when I do manage to turn the other cheek it slowly begins to eat away at me to the point where I just start a new save. Any tips on how to deal with this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
225C Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 I can see where you're coming from. Just had my 8 game winning streak end when I inexplicably got smashed 7-1 by an inferior team way down the table that we beat earlier in the season. I was (briefly) tempted to reload my save but didn't. Our next game we came back and won 5-1. It was a satisfying win after what had happened before. For me I try to let the defeat motivate me to get my tactics/team right, even though I want to punch my laptop at times. Upsets are going to happen, just a fact of life, sometimes a match result is just out of your control. If it was a particularly bad loss I'll stop playing for a couple of days or a week and come back to it, sometimes it takes the sting out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugeine Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 For a start, don't feel guilty for rage quitting. Most other video games encourage saving and reloading as a way of learning and playing the game, especially strategy games. A few, such as XCom 2, actually have a mechanism to help you differentiate between the two called 'iron man,' which autosaves for you and doesn't allow you to quit and reload. I used this method as a way to stop myself from doing it; I have one save which is my 'iron man' save, where I don't allow myself to do that, and one where i do. If I'm getting annoyed on one i switch and play the other until i feel ready to go back to the first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemeuresnew Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 9 hours ago, UNOliva said: I have a hard time dealing with big losses at home and upsets. I usually rage quit which just ruins it for me since its practically cheating and when I do manage to turn the other cheek it slowly begins to eat away at me to the point where I just start a new save. Any tips on how to deal with this? there is no 'cheating', every one can play as they like what are you doing when you reload the game? changing things or just hoping for a bit of luck? some thing i do, is when i come against a completely foreign tactic is save it as a new file, and reload a few times regardless of a win/loss. just to see what my different ideas play out like. the game can take so long, with such a variety of opposition, or different players being available, that it is easier to learn against the same team multiple times for me but i always reload the original after, because for me that would be 'cheating'. others will probably say playing the same game more than once is 'cheating to lean the me' or somethin lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnack Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Without ragequitting I would have destroyed furniture and computers. It's a good way to vent. I just lost 2-1 against a poor team after 2 missed penalties and 2 woodwork hits against an empty goal... I always accept the second result, even if it's worse. Some ragequits have forced me to replay 3-4 games and sometimes I've been worse of than I would have been if I had continued instead of ragequitting. It evens out over a few seasons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 On 09/07/2017 at 02:36, UNOliva said: I have a hard time dealing with big losses at home and upsets. I usually rage quit which just ruins it for me since its practically cheating and when I do manage to turn the other cheek it slowly begins to eat away at me to the point where I just start a new save. Any tips on how to deal with this? One way would be to not save before a match, so you know rage quitting costs you more game time. Perhaps this does not help. Sometimes the best thing to do is just to walk away and have a grumble about things, so you are not near the computer until you have calmed down. Especially do this if you are getting hugely frustrated, save the game, turn it off, chill out and come back to it. Other than that, it is just self control dude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpedpolecat Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Try and remember mad things happen in football and not get too frustrated. I know it's ridiculous when you get smashed by some tinpot nobodies - But it's how you bounce back and sort the mess after. All part of the fun! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominican923 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 I used to be the exact way and save before every match. Even though I would win every cup I was not satisfied . eventually I decided to stop doing that, and yes the loses still make me very angry but when I win a cup it feels much better than before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathon Dress Week Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 When you end up having one of 'those' games where the ME decides you are going to lose not matter what you do, I tend to switch the game off and play something else. Plenty of games out there that provide just as much fun without giving you a headache trying to work out what the wonky AI is up to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansJoachim Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 On 9/7/2017 at 02:36, UNOliva said: I have a hard time dealing with big losses at home and upsets. I usually rage quit which just ruins it for me since its practically cheating and when I do manage to turn the other cheek it slowly begins to eat away at me to the point where I just start a new save. Any tips on how to deal with this? Approach the first 20 minutes of every home game as if it where a difficult away game. Yes, even if the opponent is weak. Be happy when it's 0-0 after 20 minutes. Then you start to come forward a bit more but without being reckless. If the game is still tied after 60 minutes, then you attack for real. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 It's a computer game, don't get wound up about it as there are more important things in life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbo11 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I used to rage quit when I was younger (always saved the game after the loss, never reloaded) but I would soon get bored of that save. Now I'm older, the recent FM's, I just take all outcomes with a pinch of salt. 1. it's a game, 2. crazy things happen in football, 3. I've often been on the positive end of weird results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyJ Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I can't bring myself to reload the save, even if we did dominate with 75% possession and 35 shots. I just take the defeat and move on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kick Wilstra Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I understand the urge, have been guilty of it myself. I had a difficult time in my current save twice, ones when a disappointing match went from bad to worse when we conceded three goals in the last 5 minutes in a cup game, where I had hoped we could turn things around in the return match... And once in a league game were we lost a humiliating 8-2 in a league game. It was difficult to continue the save afterwards, but I'm glad I did. We still became champions, and it feels a bit like my avatar has an actual history, not with just successes, but also moments of defeat and humiliation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook2000 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 ''Rage Quit'' is that throwing your dummy out the pram or If your under ten years old I can understand but if your older having temper tantrums over a game is a bit sad isn't it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svenc Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 47 minutes ago, Chinook2000 said: ''Rage Quit'' is that throwing your dummy out the pram or If your under ten years old I can understand but if your older having temper tantrums over a game is a bit sad isn't it. Has made for a few cracking reads though, in particular when you can sense the 40+ years old family father of two behind it all not being able to keep himself in tact. It's like good humor, all of it wouldn't be near as entertaining if it was just universally all persons behind from which it's to be expected to completely lose it every once in a while. Oft I sympathize, which is the part in me that makes a case for better in-game feedback. But the truth is there is a part in me that's a total ass about it and immensely enjoys such documents of somebody losing it, the best bits are those when grown-up rage is paired with potshot conspiracy, that can be equally immensely inventive. Usually I don't give a wuss, as long-term everything will be fine more or less... in real football, only bad managers overreact to a loss, up to the point of losing all their ability to keep calm, analyze, and put it into context. If they do, it's not seldom a sign that they may be soon out of their job, and no reload is gonna save them. In some ways FM may simulate that quite well, though there is also AI and ME dynamics contributing to it on occasion, when they shouldn't. Has rarely been anything you can't deal with though, going straight back to the 4-2-4 overload universally late match AI switch as predictable as clock work and the good old rage quit. By all means, reload as much as you like, it is your game! Just as long as you keep those rage quits coming! But to answer, a good way to deal with it is learning how to read the feedback that's there, having sensible expectations, consider that a upsets are meant to be some part of the gig. But if they happen with some added frequency, there may be something that can be improved upon, as having more possession and more shots of whichever kind, to cite that evergreen, isn't managing and never going to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isignedupfornorealreason Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Meh, it happens. I've been guilty of it, and not just on FM! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCanary Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I used to be a terrible rage quitter but have got better over time. The ones I I find difficult to take is when you lose a game due to defenders ignoring really basic rules of defending. I had one recently where I was drawing 1-1, hanging on with 10 men when my defensive midfielder inexplicably humps the ball from the right hand channel of my own penalty area back into the middle, 25 yards from goal to an opponent. He of course has a free shot, hits the bar and his team mate tucks home the rebound. Found it very difficult not to reload then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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