knap Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Tested with either Spurs or Arsenal, no OIs. GOODBYE 343 GOODBYE3433P97.tac THE TACTIC WITH NO NAME 4321 KnapFM18BETA4321THP58P97.tac BLUE MATTER 433 KnapFM18BETABLUEMATTER433P95.tac WARPIGS 42312 Narrow Diamond FM18BetaWARPIGSKnapp53.tac GOODBYE 3412 GOODBYE34312P51.tac GOODBYE 3430 IWBGOODBYE3430P53.tac FM 17 WB Version GOODBYE3430P46.tac GOODBYE BARCELONA 4231 GOODBYETI4231barcelona.tac THE TACTIC WITH NO NAME 451 4-51WideP54CP51.tac THE TACTIC WITH NO NAME 4231 FM18BETAKnap4-2-3-1 WideP54.tac MIDSOMMER 442 MIDSOMER442.tac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomekk73 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 which the best? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 How about testing with a Lower League team rather than a top team? Might be a little more appealing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 Why would a LL team be more appealing, as I will use them with say Dulwich Hamlet, and I 've always used these type of tactics in LL.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 If you provide evidence that your "super" tactics work with a LL team as opposed to a team filled with stars, it'll look like one worth paying attention to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 Based on last year BLUE MATTER 433 scored 177 goals in 38 games and GOODBYE BARCELONA 4231 made 106 pts with Barcelona GOODBYE 3430 was best underdog tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martplfc1 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, Pompeyboyz said: How about testing with a Lower League team rather than a top team? Might be a little more appealing How about devising your own tactic instead of relying on others', might be more appealing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 Last year with Dulwich Hamlet - Dafuge Challenge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Pompeyboyz said: If you provide evidence that your "super" tactics work with a LL team as opposed to a team filled with stars, it'll look like one worth paying attention to knap's tactics are the best. Just because he mainly tests them with top clubs doesn't mean they won't work with LL clubs. I used Warpigs FM17 exclusively with a SerieC/B club and gained promotion. If you question his tactics for LL clubs then don't use them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 A few years ago I used them with Frimley Green about level 11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, martplfc1 said: How about devising your own tactic instead of relying on others', might be more appealing. I actually make my own tactics, just see little in saying a tactic is great with a top team without testing on a LL team. I like Mr U Roslers threads as he provides details about tactics that work at the top and lower down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Pompeyboyz said: I actually make my own tactics, just see little in saying a tactic is great with a top team without testing on a LL team. I like Mr U Roslers threads as he provides details about tactics that work at the top and lower down. How would you know if knap's tactics DON'T with lower clubs? How bout uploading YOUR tactics so we can judge? GOODBYE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Heywood JaBlowme said: How would you know if knap's tactics DON'T with lower clubs? How bout uploading YOUR tactics so we can judge? GOODBYE I am happy playing with my tactics....they work for me you could always make your own and not rely on others work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 Looks like you have tried Mr u's tactics so much for making your own. If you make your own why are you in tactics sharing thread. Something not adding up here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Pompeyboyz said: I am happy playing with my tactics....they work for me you could always make your own and not rely on others work. TROLLBOT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 20 minutes ago, Pompeyboyz said: I like Mr U Roslers threads as he provides details about tactics that work at the top and lower down. I have just made my comment bold for you Yes I did try his tactic also to see how it plays. And gave him feedback that improved his tactic. However, my preference was to return to my own. I do not need to spam the tactics forum with countless tactics that you have clearly not tested by actually playing but only holidaying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Thanks for the separate thread knap. Warpigs is looking solid in my Inter save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Knap, cheers for doing this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 My AssMan suggested adding 3 TI's Pump the ball to the box, Hit early crosses and float crosses I think it was your Ass Man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
acura Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Hi Knap ; What happenned to bluematter 433 attack ? Is bluematter433 p95 better than other one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 If you like it can add that tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Just now, knap said: My AssMan suggested adding 3 TI's Pump the ball to the box, Hit early crosses and float crosses I think it was your Ass Man As Mr Roslers thread says plug and play, I tried it......I was not impressed. My AssMan suggested it. I did not have to follow his advice. I tried it, and it was better. I continued using it. it was still better. I suggested My Rosler it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
acura Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, knap said: If you like it can add that tactic Only differences is back roles? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 I will have to check but probably the same, I may have renamed it as an attacking tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 knap, this year's ME still favors narrow width? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca72 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 42 minutes ago, Pompeyboyz said: I actually make my own tactics, just see little in saying a tactic is great with a top team without testing on a LL team. I like Mr U Roslers threads as he provides details about tactics that work at the top and lower down. Don't take this the wrong way, but this forum isn't for you, clearly. Why would you come on a thread and start with this for absolutely no reason. Knap has been making tactics for years, and a lot of people like using them. You like your own tactics, that's great - If you ever decide to make a thread you can bet your life Knap won't bust into yours with a load of waffle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Had a pretty good string of matches with Warpigs in my Inter save until I faced Roma in an Italian Cup match where I was trailing 0-1 at HT, though still had the significant edge in shots & possession. Switched to Blue Matter 433 Attacking and won 3-2, after scoring 3 goals within 15 minutes. Nice! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
acura Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 20 minutes ago, knap said: I will have to check but probably the same, I may have renamed it as an attacking tactic. And which one do you recommend sir? 433P95 with full back (s) roles or 433Attack with wing back (a) roles? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 One of the problems with FMT is you only have 1 tactic space, rather than the 3 which makes Plan B tactics easier to find. The 433 Attack does not appear to have corners set up, so the P95 should be latest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
acura Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 1 minute ago, knap said: One of the problems with FMT is you only have 1 tactic space, rather than the 3 which makes Plan B tactics easier to find. The 433 Attack does not appear to have corners set up, so the P95 should be latest. Thank you sir (and sorry for bad english ... ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
herne79 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 @Pompeyboyz if you have constructive criticism to add you are welcome to do so. Posting childish nonsense and derailing threads is not constructive. Enough now thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giraffin Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Cheers! One question Knap, which one of the 4-2-3-1's are best for the top teams do you reckon? The highest scoring one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDL1994 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 What is everyone's general opinion on the best version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 Barcelona is from last year and set up with Barcelona. The other no name 4231 was just a thrown together tactic to try the ME, Try them both in your friendlies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 I test with different team, including lower league mostly with Margate and Ebbsfleet, so there is never going to an ultimate best. From independent testing by MR L last year over 180 games, with underdog and sub top teams, GOODBYE 3430 was the top tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legaldinho Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, CDL1994 said: What is everyone's general opinion on the best version? Have only tried the first tactic, no name 4321. Just won the league with spurs with 4 games to go. This tactic tore it up till February. Now I don't know if what happened there was at my end - jadedness, squad management, who knows. But around then I started drawing games, suffered a couple of losses. Since the last update, it went back on track, but I did get into the practice of slowing tempo, increasing roaming, and passing into space after going one goal up. That seams to have worked again. But the match engine has done some weird things. Mainly, my AMCL is getting a lot of poor ratings. 6.4, 6.5... like 9 times out of ten, considerably below a 7. And I rotate, so it's not just eriksen, Lamela or Son. Also, I fail to convert chances way too much, and my defenders have started getting poor ratings also. Deep, low crosses into the far post are way too effective. If I see one coming, I know the opposition has scored. Bittersweet then. I won the league but some ofy best players have underperformed. Others, though, do brilliantly. The wingbacks, and the MCR (Sissoko especially) are doing great. I think it needs a lot of work but I can confirm, then, that the first no name tactic does really improve results. And it was unbeatable at the beginning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Blue Matter 433 Attacking is ferocious when it comes to goalscoring. Plays some great attacking football too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warszawa Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 just start the season with Knap 451 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warszawa Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 coceeding a bit but 3rd place is very good for Hamburg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 GOODBYE 343 GOODBYE3433P97.tac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck7ham Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 3 hours ago, knap said: GOODBYE 343 Looks like a monster tactic. Can't wait to give it a try! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 It is in a similar mould as BLUE MATTER. Any views on the new free kick set up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VP. Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Can i ask what the exact method is for making these. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 Thesy are made by watching games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCB08 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 hour ago, SortitoutsiVP said: Can i ask what the exact method is for making these. 38 minutes ago, knap said: Thesy are made by watching games. I wouldn't mind more information too other than Tried with Arsenal and Spurs. The question of asking the method in making these, is a valid question and the answer is well a bit wrong I think. How can you watch a game then come up with a tactic, even the very first friendly game in a save you need to input players into a formation or is just the version I have? After watching the first game, what did you see that needed tweaking, what is the thinking behind the tactics, any influences that helped make them? I have no doubt your tactics work and work well with the amount of fanboys you have but there are a lot of other people that like to know the method/thinking behind things so if something starts to decline in their own game it could help identify an issue and help them resolve it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 These are mostly last years tactics, and based on a lot of testing last year. This is still a Beta and these are just a few tactics for people to use. If you are not interested in using these tactics then do not post. If you are interested then try them for a season and let me know how they did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCB08 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, knap said: These are mostly last years tactics, and based on a lot of testing last year. This is still a Beta and these are just a few tactics for people to use. If you are not interested in using these tactics then do not post. If you are interested then try them for a season and let me know how they did. I am interested in using them. I am also entitled to ask for more informaton on them am I not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 12 minutes ago, AFCB08 said: I have no doubt your tactics work and work well with the amount of fanboys you have but there are a lot of other people that like to know the method/thinking behind things so if something starts to decline in their own game it could help identify an issue and help them resolve it. I've tried & tried to devise my own tactics and they are inconsistent at best. May work for a short string of matches and then everything turns to ****. I'm guessing I'm not alone. I have no idea how knap comes up will all the PIs & different formations. All I know is they WORK and I prefer to use them over the others posted. If that makes me a "fanboy" then so be it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 20 minutes ago, AFCB08 said: I wouldn't mind more information too other than Tried with Arsenal and Spurs. The question of asking the method in making these, is a valid question and the answer is well a bit wrong I think. How can you watch a game then come up with a tactic, even the very first friendly game in a save you need to input players into a formation or is just the version I have? After watching the first game, what did you see that needed tweaking, what is the thinking behind the tactics, any influences that helped make them? I have no doubt your tactics work and work well with the amount of fanboys you have but there are a lot of other people that like to know the method/thinking behind things so if something starts to decline in their own game it could help identify an issue and help them resolve it. No need to disrespect the author of these tactics or the people you call 'fanboys'. Knap made this thread because several users asked him to do so, the game is still in beta so everything is very provisional at the moment, including tactics. Knap has a lot of experience with the game so he's probably using his past experience and testings as a base for new tactics. Most likely he'll do more as soon as the full game is released. This is 'Tactics sharing' sub-forum, and this is exactly what Knap does. If you're more interested in tactical discussion and how to identify and resolve your tactical issues there's a proper 'Tactics, training and strategy forum' for this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCB08 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 10 minutes ago, kandersson said: No need to disrespect the author of these tactics or the people you call 'fanboys'. Knap made this thread because several users asked him to do so, the game is still in beta so everything is very provisional at the moment, including tactics. Knap has a lot of experience with the game so he's probably using his past experience and testings as a base for new tactics. Most likely he'll do more as soon as the full game is released. This is 'Tactics sharing' sub-forum, and this is exactly what Knap does. If you're more interested in tactical discussion and how to identify and resolve your tactical issues there's a proper 'Tactics, training and strategy forum' for this. I'm interested in these tactics and more information on them, that is maybe why I asked here rather than 'Tactics, training and Strategy Forum' Fanboys is not a disrespectful term, if people are offended by that term then sorry if any offence caused and maybe they need to stay clear of the internet as far worse out there. I do not feel it to be wrong to be asking for more information behind the tactics? Maybe would have had a better response if I just replied with 'Training?' or 'OI's' rather than ask a proper question? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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