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Ive recently been developing my own custom database to reform the Republic of Ireland to sort of mimic our GAA format with over 400 new towns and villages added, 400 new clubs (every village in Ireland has a GAA club] in reformed league pyramid that would more accurately represent our GAA structure with:

All Ireland being tier 1

Provincial championships being tier 2

and tier 3 being local region (county level) which is the part I’m most interested in..

 

ive slowly been trial and erroring my way to making it work but I have a few questions that someone might be able to help me with

 

1. Ive not added stadiums for all clubs yet, just the bigger ones I’m familiar with and the ones in my county - Ive noticed during simulations that a number of clubs with stadiums left blank have taken up residency in existing empty stadiums around Ireland but the issue is one club in particular in the south of Ireland has begun the season playing in Donegal (the very north) - Will these clubs eventually “build” there own stadiums in there own local regions if I just leave it or if I create a number of empty stadiums in a given local region (using lat / long coordinates will these clubs settle into those stadiums rather than just finding vacant stadiums in random parts of the country?

 

2. What is the best way to ensure clubs relegate to their correct regions? So for example if a club from Leinster is relegated from the All Ireland premiership, how do I ensure they enter the Leinster championship regional league? Is this best done by setting boundaries in the competition database or is it best done by setting the correct regions and tiers in the individual clubs database? 
 

I have set exact coordinates for each city and have a clear idea of “overlapping” particular local regions that can technically fall into two / three of four provincial championships. Like a Venn diagram with clubs near provincial boundaries that can participate in either regional championship for the reason of balancing out the league tables

 

lastly, is there a glossary of terms or explanations for some of the inputs in the editor? For example, in some of the databases I see the default value being ‘-1’ or ‘-2’ and in the Transfer preferences it explains the purpose of these values but in other areas it doesn’t. Is there a general rule for the “-1” value? 
 

Thanks! Sorry for the long post it’s my first time asking a question here. I really enjoy editing and creating my own databases for maximum immersion

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On 03/07/2024 at 12:26, rusty217 said:

Fixed rules replace the default rules completely and use only your new rules. 

This is where I'm struggling. I have reworked the AFC Cup. The finals play out at the beginning of January 2024. With qualifications happening between March and October 2023. I want this to play every 4 years. Yet in testing in the editor there is always a 2nd tournament starting in 2024 with the qualifyting rounds taking place around September time. I just cannot fathom where the instructions to start the qualifying is coming from. Obviously it is struggling to find all the teams to play because I have not set this up to play. Why isn't the fixed rule instruction overriding this? 

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1 hour ago, \'Appy \'Ammer said:

This is where I'm struggling. I have reworked the AFC Cup. The finals play out at the beginning of January 2024. With qualifications happening between March and October 2023. I want this to play every 4 years. Yet in testing in the editor there is always a 2nd tournament starting in 2024 with the qualifyting rounds taking place around September time. I just cannot fathom where the instructions to start the qualifying is coming from. Obviously it is struggling to find all the teams to play because I have not set this up to play. Why isn't the fixed rule instruction overriding this? 

The club continental cup? You probably need to completely override the coefficients etc. for Asia too.

Or you mean the AFC Asian Cup international tournament? What are your settings on the tournament, and have you edited Asian WC qualifiers too? WC qualifiers double up as qualifiers for the Asian Cup so if they're still left as the default rules they'd qualify teams for it.

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Yes sorry AFC Nations Cup. I have changed the WC qualifiers as well. I've reintroduced the Challenge Cup and the teams that don't get past the qualification round of the Nations Cup drop into the Challenge Cup. I'll revisit the WC qualifiers, maybe there is a setting I have overlooked. I did remove the reference to the Nations Cup in the Other Stage Actions. 

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Anyway to set a nation to inactive in the game? I tried moving all players, competitions, local regions, cities pretty much everything to another nation. I also uncheck this nation to be part of fifa but from time to time, there will be one or two newgens from the nation I want to remove.

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Instead of editing a club in the FM24 game editor, I accidentally added a club to a comp. I have deleted the club, but when I go to test the rules I get the below error message.


https://i.imgur.com/XqNZg34.jpeg

I can understand why I got that message as I added a club to the comp, and now I must also reduce the number of dates back to down to 38 as there are 20 teams in the comp.  I've been searching for a couple of hours now in various areas, and I just can't work out where I am meant to go to change this.

Can anyone throw me a bone and tell me where within the editor I am meant to go to correct this?

 

 

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I'm doing this from memory but will hopefully point you in the right direction.... Look at fixture dates for the division you're in. It'll be under the fixture rules tab. There's a few ways these can be set up but if it's like the default leagues then make sure your last entry is 37 (and then the date). Then in league settings (that's under the Teams tab area) you can see if you have the teams set to 20 and number of rounds to 2. Also underneath that tab there will be another section called league schedule. Here is where you should have all your dates set. For a league the first date is likely to be 0 (date), and the last date will be 37 (date). 

Hope that helps. I'm afraid I'm in my work van trying to picture the editor in my head!

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9 hours ago, phantom1998 said:

Anyway to set a nation to inactive in the game? I tried moving all players, competitions, local regions, cities pretty much everything to another nation. I also uncheck this nation to be part of fifa but from time to time, there will be one or two newgens from the nation I want to remove.

Have a look for a guide on how to use the resource archiver. Use that to make the continent editable. Then remove the continent of the nation you want gone. Be aware that in can cause issues if things haven't been done to account for their absence though.

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Hope that helps. I'm afraid I'm in my work van trying to picture the editor in my head!

Thank-you.

After flipping back and forth between backed-up data files , I worked out I am an idiot. Yes, I had removed that rogue team, but in the process, I had also deleted a valid team as well, so I was actually down a team in the division, hence giving me the error....That's four hours of my life I won't be getting back :p

 

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Does anyone know if you reactivate Ireland pre-1922, and add UK teams, and have a league rule against foreign players, why do all players then count as foreign to their own team (i.e. Welsh players count as foreign to Welsh team, Eng players fgn to Eng teams).

I imagine it might have something to do with the region (UK&I), as no other team brought from any other country behaves similarly. Though having switched it to another region, the Fgn thing still happens.

Later edit: moved all db changes and rules to Andorra, instead. Same problem for the UK teams. Is it something Brexit related, I wonder?

 

Later later edit: Expanded teams, and Ireland and Gibraltar teams are not affected by this (they appear as non-foreign to themselves). Only UK countries...

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On 06/07/2024 at 10:29, rusty217 said:

Have a look for a guide on how to use the resource archiver. Use that to make the continent editable. Then remove the continent of the nation you want gone. Be aware that in can cause issues if things haven't been done to account for their absence though.

Thanks let me try that out, I know already all the nation leagues stuff is going to be a pain once I remove the nations.

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Is it possible to edit over 100k players at once? Even when putting "Maximum Records For Search" to "Unlimited" and my Filter retrieving way above 100k players, only the first 100k are shown and using Ctrl + A will also only select those 100k players.

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Is there a way to have an MLS style system in full, but in a different nation? Wouldn't be an issue replacing the US if that's what it took.  Mainly interested on whether the whole draft system would ever work elsewhere or if it's hard-coded in such a way that you either use it as is or weird **** starts happening.

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Not sure if this is a "simple" question but I can't make this work:

Higher division 

Lower division with 3 regional divisions

Each regional division promotes1 team, and the higher division relegates 3 teams, places 18-20. So far, easy peasy, everything works fine.

But now I also want a 4 team relegation /promotion playoff. The 17rh placed team from the higher division, and the three 2nd place teams from the lower divisions. A 4 team playoff, with the winner going to the top division.

Anyone have a guide or walkthrough? 

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When teams share a stadium, is there a setting that will force them to play home league games on alternate match days? It's frustrating seeing Saturday fixtures pushed to Sunday so both can play at home.

I might be able to use offset dates to make one of the teams play earlier on the same day but would prefer to have them alternating.

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On 11/04/2023 at 01:55, Supermercado99 said:

For a long time I've had it working that teams promoted from my 9th tier to 8th tier turn semi-professional. I've made a change somewhere that has stuffed this up and they're now instantly turning professional on promotion - usually destroying their financial position while the clubs that started as semi-pros are staying that way.

Can anyone tell me what setting I might have messed with to cause sides to jump directly from amateur to professional without going via semi-pro. The contract types for both divisions are unchanged from my last game. The only alteration I've made is slightly improving division and team reputation - but I still don't see why this would only affect promoted teams.

If it's any clue this file was created on the 20.3 database but is being played on the 20.4 patch.

EDIT: I think it's because a couple of the starting teams in tier 8 were set as professional rather than all being semi-pro. Running a test season to find out.

EDIT 2: I was right, I don't know how many teams will trigger it to change but if everyone is set as semi-pro that's what promoted teams will change to. Leaving this up for the benefit of somebody who might Google for an answer later.

I tried this solution and it appears to have worked

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On 06/07/2024 at 16:36, aemud said:

Does anyone know if you reactivate Ireland pre-1922, and add UK teams, and have a league rule against foreign players, why do all players then count as foreign to their own team (i.e. Welsh players count as foreign to Welsh team, Eng players fgn to Eng teams).

I imagine it might have something to do with the region (UK&I), as no other team brought from any other country behaves similarly. Though having switched it to another region, the Fgn thing still happens.

Later edit: moved all db changes and rules to Andorra, instead. Same problem for the UK teams. Is it something Brexit related, I wonder?

 

Later later edit: Expanded teams, and Ireland and Gibraltar teams are not affected by this (they appear as non-foreign to themselves). Only UK countries...

Anyone have any idea?

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Sounds weird, maybe you could stopgap it with different "agreement"s for each specific nation or for the four UK nations together (if you want all UK players to be non-foreign to all UK teams) (and then use the non-EU rule and set the "agreement" under each country's "nations treated as EU"). For that matter maybe just try editing each nation's "nations treated as non-foreign" first and see if that does anything

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6 hours ago, themodelcitizen said:

Sounds weird, maybe you could stopgap it with different "agreement"s for each specific nation or for the four UK nations together (if you want all UK players to be non-foreign to all UK teams) (and then use the non-EU rule and set the "agreement" under each country's "nations treated as EU"). For that matter maybe just try editing each nation's "nations treated as non-foreign" first and see if that does anything

Thanks -- I've attempted the nations treated as non-foreign and added each to each other, and that didn't work. I'll try the agreement option, hopefully that might solve it.

Edit: nope -- I really cannot figure it out. Is there a db file I could edit outside of the editor?

 

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There's an option in the editor to set game importance and state development to "not set" does anyone know what this option does? i'm randomizing every nation's youth rating and am considering randomizing other fields that affect youth development as well

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Hi, 

I'm creating a competition with a group of 36 teams split into 9 groups of 4. I would then like the top 24 teams that finish in the top 2 of each group (based on points) to move to a knock out stage.

I assume you can do this under "qualification rules" but can someone explain how to me please?

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On 11/07/2024 at 06:55, Supermercado99 said:

When teams share a stadium, is there a setting that will force them to play home league games on alternate match days? It's frustrating seeing Saturday fixtures pushed to Sunday so both can play at home.

I might be able to use offset dates to make one of the teams play earlier on the same day but would prefer to have them alternating.

Update on this - with a combination of:

- Matches with altered times for TV
- General > Don't use home match days <- Ignore this, it creates days where neither of the teams that share a ground plays at home
- Stadium Rules > Stadium Pool > Allow Multiple Matches Per Day Per Stadium
- Fixture Rules > Fixture Times > Alternative Times To Use
- League Schedule > Match Days (by adding multiple entries for the same day with different times)

... I'm getting the desired effect.

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These are the defined times set in the Match Days, and the game has stayed loyally to them with no random times/days thrown in.

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EDIT: In case anyone finds this via Googling for the answer - just want to let you know this only works when matches are moved for television, so the lower divisions still shift games to alternative days. It's frustrating that the setting for offset times when matches are played in the same stadium + the same stadium setting isn't enough to do the job.

Is there a league where teams playing home games on the same day so I can look at the advanced rules for clues? I tried Gibraltar but they play in a specific stadium so it's not the same.

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Any idea why some players don't show up on the editor? Specificaly a 15y old. (FM23)

Nevermind: Said player only appears thanks to an editor file

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hello.  Trying to make some edits to an ongoing game in fm2024.  Changes to club rep and cmpetition rep.  If I change these in the editor how can I make them take effect in a saved game?  I saved it as "league & data updates.fmf" but I guess it's just loading the default database for my saved game because none of the changes take effect.

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20 hours ago, biplane_duel said:

hello.  Trying to make some edits to an ongoing game in fm2024.  Changes to club rep and cmpetition rep.  If I change these in the editor how can I make them take effect in a saved game?  I saved it as "league & data updates.fmf" but I guess it's just loading the default database for my saved game because none of the changes take effect.

You can't. It's a pre-game editor, so existing saves can't be edited.

There are paid in-game editors, you can edit club rep in those, I don't believe competition rep is properly editable though.

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I'd like to ask a question regarding the moving of fixtures, and how to stop them getting moved.

In my Nations League fixtures, I have set the Relegation playoffs (2 legs) to play in June, and also the Semi Final, Third place playoff and Final to play in the same week. Editor testing shows how sometimes the matches play when scheduled and other times match days are moved.

Here is an example when the matches played out as I wanted:

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And here is an example of where matches have been moved. The final got brought forward by a day, and the third place playoff got moved to 10 days later than scheduled! 

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Is it possible to see a reason why fixtures have been moved? And is there a setting that allows me to say the fixture cannot be moved?

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24 minutes ago, \&#x27;Appy \&#x27;Ammer said:

Is it possible to see a reason why fixtures have been moved?

There is a clash with European Championship qualifiers in June which is causing my problem. But whilst I have your attention where do I set the priority of the match. It says 9, is that the highest, and where can i see the levels of priority?

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15 hours ago, \'Appy \'Ammer said:

There is a clash with European Championship qualifiers in June which is causing my problem. But whilst I have your attention where do I set the priority of the match. It says 9, is that the highest, and where can i see the levels of priority?

We don't get a choice of numbered priorities, they're all named (Friendly being the lowest, Highest being the highest). Although there are 10 options,international is 9th in the list just next to Highest, so I'm guessing they're using International, just 1 below the highest.

If you want your fixtures to take priority no matter what, on the Fixture Times and Rules drop down, there's a Fixture Priorities Against Other Fixtures page. Since you know which competition you're clashing with there you coudl set the Euro quals as the other competition, choose Fixture Priority To Set as highest, and Other Fixture Priority To Set to something lower. Should then prioritise your playoff and force the Euro qual fixtures to be rearranged instead.

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I have created 'player of the month' and 'goal of the month' awards for all three divisions in my custom pyramid.  They were all copied from another league's awards.  The goal of the month award works in all three divisions, but the player of the month award only works in two of them (it's greyed-out in the third and never awarded).  I tried copying a different league's award and that doesn't work, either.  Any ideas?

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4 hours ago, Toronto Blizzard said:

I have created 'player of the month' and 'goal of the month' awards for all three divisions in my custom pyramid.  They were all copied from another league's awards.  The goal of the month award works in all three divisions, but the player of the month award only works in two of them (it's greyed-out in the third and never awarded).  I tried copying a different league's award and that doesn't work, either.  Any ideas?

Could be a reputation thing. Try changing the detail level in-game and setting that competition to full detail. Sometimes it doesn't fully simulate awards etc. in lower divisions. Either playing in that division, or setting it as full detail should make it properly simulate everything though.

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8 hours ago, rusty217 said:

Could be a reputation thing. Try changing the detail level in-game and setting that competition to full detail. Sometimes it doesn't fully simulate awards etc. in lower divisions. Either playing in that division, or setting it as full detail should make it properly simulate everything though.

Surprisingly enough, it's actually the highest of the three divisions that's not showing up.  The award worked a few weeks ago and now has stopped working.  I already run the leagues on the highest detail level.  I can't imagine there's anything I could have changed in the advanced rules to make this happen as I haven't touched that division for weeks.

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