knap Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) FM 18.3.3 Tested with Lpool in FMT no OIs. FM18.3.3FLAT442MIDSOMERLpoolP97.fmf Tested with Arsenal no OIs. FM 18.3 FM18.3FLAT442MIDSOMERP103.fmf Edited August 15, 2018 by knap 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giraffin Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Impressive! got any 4231's coming up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 105 points?! What was your highest point total tactic for FM 17? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 GOODBYE 3430 was only 102 pts but WOF was 110pts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirajzl Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 All three tactics released by knap are basically the same when it comes to results, it's just a matter what kind of players you've got. Good choice to have. We'll see if Mr L's testing will differ them more when the time comes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca72 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 105 points is some effort, well done. Be giving this a go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) Looks good, as always intrigued by Icardi as F9 with beat offiside trap PPM... I guess it would be ideal to have inverted footed WM's as you've used Sanchez on the left and Ozil on the right? Edited November 17, 2017 by kandersson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eye-switcher Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 ****, 1 loss, thats good, sorry i dont like the formation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjcr3529 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 what training do you use? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Hi Knap, you put the wingers with inverted foot on flanks right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 Not really - Sanchez cuts in from Left wing but Walcott will usually be on right. Not touched training. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peisheng1991 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 flat 442, my favourite! thx knap and still waiting for the rawsienna 4231 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPChenet Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 This tactic has not worked for me. Though not bad defensively, it's been poor going forward. I've used my own 442 first season and finished sixth and though not a fan of 442 I do like the defensive stability of two banks of four; the difficulty being the link up play with the forwards without going direct, particularly if you have no pace in the team. Have you tested it with the likes of Swansea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirajzl Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Yes, even though it tested the best out of all knap's tactics, I found both 433 and 343 are better with variety of teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Berry Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Going to give this a go been looking for a solid 442 tactic, will update with progress Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Berry Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 On 17/11/2017 at 16:38, knap said: Tested with Arsenal no OIs. !!FM18MIDSOMER442KnapP105.fmf What about training ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennedfn Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 On 17/11/2017 at 17:56, Giraffin said: Impressive! got any 4231's coming up? yea would be kingkong cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 18, 2017 Author Share Posted November 18, 2017 I can't even work out how to over ride AM in FMT for individual training. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flohrinho Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, knap said: I can't even work out how to over ride AM in FMT for individual training. In the training tab of each player there is a little box that you need to check in order to be able to control their individual training. Edited November 18, 2017 by Flohrinho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 18, 2017 Author Share Posted November 18, 2017 Thanks - I can now over ride AM to train roles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flohrinho Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, knap said: Thanks - I can now over ride AM to train roles. You are welcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Berry Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Love this tactic so far it’s been 11 games since switching 10 wins one draw very nice tactic buddy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.M.F.C Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Attacking mentality with underdogs team is not too risky ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 I would use 343 with an under dog, but it is still attacking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuzojr Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Hi knap. Which of your tactics worked best with arsenal in fmt? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 All my testing so far is in FMT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuzojr Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, knap said: All my testing so far is in FMT. yes. which tactic gave you best results with arsenal ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 Oddly this one at 105pts BM is 103 GOODBYE 101 and WOF 99 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akustik Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 What is the most important position ? ST>ML and MR > MCL and MCR ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 STs and FBs tend to be the those that cause most problems if weak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca72 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Hi Knap - I've been tweaking around with this a bit, would be good to get your thoughts. I've tweaked into an asymmetric diamond, so the CM(S) has been dropped back to be a SV(S) and the false nine on the right has dropped back to be a SS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 Any results? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpsia518 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, knap said: Any results? Any chance of a 4231 or 442 with Targetman ? & very few tactic with WTM. Edited November 23, 2017 by kpsia518 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroeslyDotA Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Hey @knap, I ran a test on this tactic with Man City, holiday mode. It came up with around 95+ points, really good I think. I have two questions for you. 1. Have you taken a look at TFF's comments about Reputation being a huge factor this year in TOP vs UNDERDOG matchups ? 2. How the hell do you turn off injuries in this game ? I used the editor and deleted them from the game and they dont happen during training, but match injuries still occur. Thanks man. Solid tactic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 Tested the reputation effect last year. TBH it has probably always been that way, just that TFF decided to test in this manner. I am testing with injuries as using FMT. There I a way to set them at 0.000001, but I also understand may alaso be part of FMRTE this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 Martino does the WTM tactics, I try to avoid those roles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w_x Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 @knap how come Ozil scored so few goals in comparison to Sanchez? Looks like they play similar positions just inverted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 Walcott is usual for WM, Ozil will also play MC position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulkster79 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 How do you go about getting your points score For each tactic. I've used your tactics for a while now and never got above 85ish points... And that's with a title winning team which I've managed for 6 seasons now. Not saying your tactics are bad, just wondering where I'm losing 20 ltd a season with your tactics! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 So you do your own team talks training etc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulkster79 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Yeap, and your advice in training. Don't get me wrong I've won competitions with lots of your tactics, and they are decent but I'm not getting anywhere near the 100pts mark. My current save is Leeds untied in fm17 with second season in champions league and reached the semi final. Won the EPL last season and runner up this season, I'm 20th best team in Europe by rating. I've used midsummer until last season now I'm using wof 343 as I thought we was to highly rated for mid summer now. Maybe my team is just in that no man's land between good and great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 The AM does all press team talks and training. I posted the independent test for WOF with a CA 145 side against the rest. CA 145 is about a Lpool squad I also tested Lpool with WOF and was 95 pts, so if slightly below that standard the pts will drop. If 20 th is below Lpool then maybe 90pts would be reasonable. Do you have screenshot of ranking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulkster79 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) In FM scout I'm 8100 rep. I can get you some screenshots tonight Jaap stam is my assistant manager, and I would say he's good at team talks but I think he's to strict on the players. I would like to think I'm better at that as I've turned many games around via team talks, and it come up in the media update after the match I did well. Edited November 27, 2017 by Hulkster79 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 Trying to look a squad ability rather than rep. I am not sure the value of team talks as I am using FMT, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulkster79 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) I was looking at reputation to decide which tactic most suits my team (mid summer for mid table team, Then change to WOF for Champions league spot challengers), As I thought I needed to find out what mentality the AI is using against me. But yeah the Ability factor gives the overall points score, Providing you set your team up in the right way. I might give my AM 10 games in charge of team talks to erase this possible factor. Food for thought, anyway heres some screenshots of the clubs history. Edited November 27, 2017 by Hulkster79 added screenshot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 After you won PL your reputation went up and this is when the AI are more defensive. 3430 is a more underdog tactic, so I would use BM or WOF or Midsomer. In CL may be worth using 3430 but I would stick probsably to WOF VOL 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulkster79 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 I am using WOF 3412 AM SS at the moment, No effect. I have Blue matter 433 loaded but ddint try it yet as I have been bashed using WOF I have the alternative TM tactic just for variation, Works ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) Are you in FM 17? If so try GOODBYE 3430 Edited November 27, 2017 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulkster79 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Yes fm17 I used mid summer 442 in that, worked ok 85pts. Might get fm18 soon just want to nail 17 first with a 90+ pointer but can't do it. I'll try find the 343. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 442s did not work that well in FM17. Strikerless 3430 should work best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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