MegaAlbin_88 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) You may be right, but when i'm beating the likes of napoli with 10-0 and arsenal with 8-2 with counter mentality, i wont change anything and just go with the flow Edited May 31, 2018 by MegaAlbin_88 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutumba Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 On 16/05/2018 at 18:22, knap said: Is there a download linke to this? Or how do I make the changes myself? Just move the defenders to midfield? What about player roles and team instructions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 It is just defenders moved up, and you need to pick right game to see how it works. ND.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutumba Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, knap said: It is just defenders moved up, and you need to pick right game to see how it works. ND.fmf I compared ND to midsomer flat P103 and I noticed there are a number of changes in the Team instructions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 Looks like I used the RMD Tactic as MIDSOMER has 2 strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raf0u Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 What's your best underdog tactic right now Knap ? I play with Parma in Italian Serie B (If possible not a 3 striker formation, as i did all my transfers for a 4231 formation, that doesn't work really well unfortunately in the end) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Scout Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, raf0u said: What's your best underdog tactic right now Knap ? I play with Parma in Italian Serie B (If possible not a 3 striker formation, as i did all my transfers for a 4231 formation, that doesn't work really well unfortunately in the end) The best underdog tactic is FM18.2.2KnapARGUS343P102.fmf. The best non 343 underdog tactic is I believe FM18.3FLAT442MIDSOMERP103.fmf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 Asked for test to be expanded next year for top dog and under underdog. Volante Anchor may be an under underdog contender or MIDSOMER on counter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raf0u Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Thank you very much guys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizoudembele Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Hi Knapp, I play with Milan,I have many questions 1 - Which one is the best : FM18.3.3FLAT442MIDSOMERLpoolP97.fmf FM18.3FLAT442MIDSOMERP103.fmf FM18.3FLAT442MIDSOMERP103IWPLPOOLP104.fmf 2 - Right winger must be right or left foot ? And left winger ? for the 3 tactics or only one or 2 ? 3 - Right or left foot is it important for F9 ? 4 - Should we prefer fast an technical F9's, or physical and good finisher and good head 5 - I have Lautaro Martinez, Salah, Berardi, Harry Kane and Draxler Draxler - left winger Salah - right winger Lautaro and Kane F9 ? Can it works like this ? 6 - Berardi is better winger or F9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 Usually right foot on right side for forwards wingers MCs DCs. Sometimes a cut in PPM would apply but it is best to experiment with individual players. Good players who are fast and technical. The 180 game independent test shows MIDSOMER P103 to be best, but good results can also be obtained using counter mentality. I let AM pick then experiment with players in different roles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutumba Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Ever considered creating a more traditiona 442 with Target man, Knap? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 I ted to avoid TM or AP type roles as they restrict a tactic. However you can still play all sorts of fwds with this tactic F9 is just a FM game label. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 On 24/05/2018 at 15:35, knap said: FM 18.3.3 Tested with Lpool in FMT no OIs FM18.3FLAT442MIDSOMERP103IWPLPOOLP104.fmf Accomplished the impossible with this tactic. Been using Touch exclusively using Instant result but decided to try something different so I started a new save in the full version with Sampdoria using this tactic. Switched back & forth from Attacking to Counter mentality during match play, depending on the situation. Won the Scudetto in the first season. Unbelievable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandonDonovan10 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 change cb roles to defensive centre back and see how your players becomes david beckham... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) On 11/06/2018 at 08:27, LandonDonovan10 said: change cb roles to defensive centre back and see how your players becomes david beckham... Without changing anything else? Beckham with Man U or after? Edited June 12, 2018 by Heywood JaBlowme Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandonDonovan10 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 On 12.06.2018 at 18:57, Heywood JaBlowme said: Without changing anything else? Beckham with Man U or after? Yeah just defensive cb - stopper thats all. Beckham did great job even with LA Galaxy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandonDonovan10 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 hey @knap did you tried a defensive striker tactic or use that role on this? im playing in the third league and sometimes i change my strikers to df because they are not even close for f9 role and they are scoring.. like defensive cb, this role has his own charm i think.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 If I was any good with editing I would set up a test side that could play all roles with equal ability. It may be that you team and players suit that set up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Best 442 is the 103 point? Best 451 is the Pilgrimage 451? Can I use these two tactics with an average team and build my squad and improve around these two tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 I was looking at some posts in the Dafuge challenge, and slowly building a good squad is a good overall game plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Could you say that the new 442 route 66 tactic could be as good or better than the flat 442 midsomer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 With a top side it is 2 pts better over 38 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
omrgul Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 On 31/05/2018 at 15:17, knap said: Attacking should work better for a top team, although you can win PL and EC with MU on counter. Mentality may be working like FM 17 when going defensive to look after ball better can crack tight defences. Hey knap, in light of above statement... Is it better to use Counter at Home, and Attacking Away when underdog (since Attacking mentality is behaving like Counter-attacking in this year's FM). What do you say? For a team like Bilbao in La Liga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 In general the AI will be more open for an under dog, so they should not be playing against a defensive AI. It may be worth trying if on a game by game basis if the AI appear defensive. However, if an attacking route one pump ball into box tactic works for a top dog with little possession then thoughts on FM 17 may longer apply. In general In past FMs a top dog winning tactic had the majority of possession. This year the opposite appears to be the case, although I am looking at more possession based tactics. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
omrgul Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Thanks for your quick revert. You have been a great teacher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 Overview of Tactic List from testing TOTAL SUB TOP UNDERDOG ARGUS FM 18.2.2 P102 P385 P206 P179 PILGRIMAGE FM 18.3.3 LPOOL P104 P380 P226 P154 WOF FM 18.3.3 P101 Flexible P381 P213 P168 WOF FM 18.3.3 LPOOL P100 ALL CUPS P365 P196 P169 PILGRIMAGE Fluid LPOOL P101 P367 P201 P166 PILGRIMAGE FM 18.2 P105 P357 P218 P139 ARGUS VOL 4 FM18.3.3 Structured P101 ALL CUPS P363 P220 P143 BLUE MATTER FM 18.3.3 P105 P356 P207 P149 GOODBYE FM 18.3 VOL 7 Very Fluid P349 P208 P141 GOODBYE 3421 P324 P205 P119 MIDSOMER 442 P103 (FLAT TEST) P349 P199 P150 MIDSOMER 442 VOL MEZ P342 P196 P146 MIDSOMER 343 VOL MEZ P337 P195 P142 WOF 2323 FM 18 P104 P335 P187 P148 BLUE MATTER FM 18.3 VOL 4 P102 352 P335 P206 P129 ASH 343 19,3.3 LPOOLP99 Highly Structured P333 P205 P128 ARGUS 3430 P331 P192 P139 VOLANTE BWM FM 18.3 P101 P326 P191 P135 MM 442 VOLANTE P103 P323 P187 P136 WOF 3412 P325 P198 P127 WOF 2233 P102HS FM 18.2 P311 P194 P117 BLUE MATTER VOL 4 P100 4123 FM 18.2.1 P310 P179 -P131 MMVOLANTEANCHOR 442 P302 P165 P127 ARGUS 352 18.2,2 P101 P306 P169 P137 BLUE MATTER 433 18.3 P295 P158 P137 BLUE MATTER VOL 4 4213 VOLANTE 18.3 P289 P184 P105 PILGRIMAGE 3511 18.2.2 P102 P297 P181 P116 PILGRIMAGE 451 MUP101 18.3.3 P293 P169 P124 MIDSOMER WIDE DIAMOND 18.3 P287 P175 P112 RAMBLE ON ASYMMETRIC18,3 P100 P287 P169 P118 RAW SIENNA 4231 18,2,2 P272 P147 P125 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFanatikz Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Been using the FM18.3FLAT442MIDSOMERP103 with Barcelona and its working wonders so far. Considering i have an ageing squad and zero transfer budget smashing Madrid was quite a surprise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiza Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Hey knap, first of all thank you very much for your excellent tactics! I have one small question about your midsommer 103 p tactic. I noticed, that your left wm has the option "runs with ball often", while your left wm is missing this. Would it change the outcome of the tactic if I try to make it symmetrical? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 I often find small differences in PIs help a tactic perform, and there is no reason to be totally symmetrical. It has been like this since first created back in FM 16. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiza Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 vor 1 Minute schrieb knap: I often find small differences in PIs help a tactic perform, and there is no reason to be totally symmetrical. It has been like this since first created back in FM 16. Okay, thanks for your quick reply. I think you are correct, but my inner Monk sometimes make my don't wanna use a tactic, if it is not perfectly symmetrical Well, I am playing in german 4th division, media prediction was 16 (out of 18) and I started to use the tactic in the second half of the season. First half of the season (using another tactic) wasn't very good, but if I get good results, I will definitely post it here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLeNoble Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Le 17/07/2018 à 21:59, TheFanatikz a dit : Been using the FM18.3FLAT442MIDSOMERP103 with Barcelona and its working wonders so far. Considering i have an ageing squad and zero transfer budget smashing Madrid was quite a surprise. I confirm. Real Madrid really does not like the 442 FLAT Midsomer. Unbelievable performance. With your tactics I feel that my team seems invincible. I would do screens of my end-of-season results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLeNoble Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Knap what are the differences between FM18.3FLAT442MIDSOMERP103 and 442 ROUTE 66 ? I'm a top team, which version of MIDSOMER may I use ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 1, 2018 Author Share Posted August 1, 2018 ROUTE 66 is based around Route 1 passing and pump ball into box. You can use either but Board may not like route 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Yeah, if you're interviewing for a club like Barcelona that wants to see beautiful "possession" football, don't use Route 66. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLeNoble Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Thank you guys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 1, 2018 Author Share Posted August 1, 2018 Apart from wanting to put together a tactic using those TIs, it was intended more for LL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverstar87 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Am 1.8.2018 um 20:01 schrieb knap: Apart from wanting to put together a tactic using those TIs, it was intended more for LL. hey Knap what dou you think is the best formation to counter an 442 flat ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 If you want to counter a 442 it means protecting wings, especially on the AI attacking side which can be seen from AI formation. Therefore 451 or 442 4141 formations even 424. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverstar87 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 vor 2 Stunden schrieb knap: If you want to counter a 442 it means protecting wings, especially on the AI attacking side which can be seen from AI formation. Therefore 451 or 442 4141 formations even 424. my friends are playing in the same league with 442, so there is no AI i will try 442 P103 or VOL MEZ version in Counter mentality Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 MIDSOMER with AFs FM18.3.4FLAT442MIDSOMERP103AFP102.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 Just played this game with the original FM 16 tactic. Note how Son and Alli fit into a 442 and as on counter matching MC for possession. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandonDonovan10 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 can you make 4-2-4? using like when you need a goal.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 There is a BM 415 tactic or BEOWULF 424 or PILGRIMAGE 343 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intensa Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 (edited) first season using this one after 3 years with WOF... Won everything, 7 trophy and I destroyed Arsenal in the champions league final !!!! (Put my WB on Support and use Counter ; Every Game) God Bless U Knap Edited September 3, 2018 by Intensa 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 On 03/09/2018 at 20:11, Intensa said: first season using this one after 3 years with WOF... Won everything, 7 trophy and I destroyed Arsenal in the champions league final !!!! (Put my WB on Support and use Counter ; Every Game) God Bless U Knap Good to see someone else using Knap's tactics on the full game. What match prep and scheduling notch do you set? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superharber Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 @knap have u managed to get a 4-2-3-1 working this year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted September 5, 2018 Author Share Posted September 5, 2018 DARK SIDE, PILGRIMAGE, GOODBYE BARCELONA, RAW SIENNA, should all work if you have a good side but one of the weaker formations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superharber Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 19 minutes ago, knap said: DARK SIDE, PILGRIMAGE, GOODBYE BARCELONA, RAW SIENNA, should all work if you have a good side but one of the weaker formations. @knap they are 4231 formations? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted September 5, 2018 Author Share Posted September 5, 2018 There will be a 4231 version. I am trying a high possession 4231 atm but may not be stable enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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