Guest Sean10 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Newcastle United F.C. Guide - Football Manager 2009 Club Information Background Name: Newcastle United F.C. Nickname(s): The Magpies, The Toon Army, The Toon Founded: 1892 Home Kit: Black & White striped shirt, Black shorts, Black socks with White hoops Away Kit: Purple shirt, Purple shorts, Purple socks with White rings Fierce Rivals: Sunderland Other Rivals: Middlesbrough Legends: Alan Shearer, Kevin Keegan, Bobby Robson, Peter Beardsley Club Icons: Rob Lee, Gary Speed, Lee Clark, Steve Watson, Pavel Srnicek, Warren Barton, Paul Gascoigne, Les Ferdinand, Liam O'Brien, Bobby Moncur Favoured Personnel: John Beresford, Malcolm MacDonald, Jonathan Woodgate League: English Premiership Media Prediction: 12th Team Captain: Michael Owen Vice Captain: Nicky Butt Staff Manager: Joe Kinnear Assistant Manager: Chris Hughton Coach: Mark Wheeler GK Coach: Paul Barron Fitness Coach: Craig Russell Fitness Coach: Mark Hulse Fitness Coach: Robbie Elliott Youth Coach: Kenny Wharton Youth Coach: Alan Thompson Youth Coach: Richard Money Youth Coach: Joe Joyce Physio: Derek Wright Physio: Ian McGuinness Physio: Davie Henderson Physio: Kevin Bell Scout: Dennis Wise Scout: Jeff Vetere Scout: Chris McMenemy Scout: Pablo Longoria Scout: Vic Halcom Scout: Lil Fuccillo Finances Estimated Value: £98m Loan Debt: £110m Balance: £23.1m Transfer Budget: £6.75m (Winner), £6m (Title Challenge), £5.5m (Continental Qualification), £4.3m (Top Half Finish) Wage Budget: £1.1m (Winner), £1.1m (Title Challenge), £1m (Continental Qualification), £925k (Top Half Finish) Current Wage: £870k Stadium & Facilities Ground: St. James’ Park Capacity: 52,387 Expansion Capacity: 60,000 No. of Season Ticket Holders: 35,000 Average Season Ticket Price: £570 Average Ticket Price: £34 Reserve Stadium: Kingston Park Training Facilities: Top Training Facilities Youth Setup: Good Youth Facilities + Youth Academy Squad Analysis First Team Squad Goalkeepers 1. Shay Given 13. Steven Harper 40. Tim Krul Defenders 2. Fabricio Coloccini 3. Jose Enrique 6. Claudio Cacapa 12. Sebastien Bassong 21. Habib Beye 27. Steven Taylor 28. Tamas Kadar 30. David Edgar Midfielders 7. Joey Barton 8. Danny Guthrie 11. Damien Duff 14. Charles N’Zogbia 15. Ignacio Gonzalez (on loan from Valencia) 18. Jonas Gutierrez 20. Geremi 22. Nicky Butt (Vice Captain) 38. Kazenga LuaLua Forwards 9. Obafemi Martins 10. Michael Owen (Captain) 17. Alan Smith 19. Xisco 23. Shola Ameobi 29. Fabio Zamblera 36. Mark Viduka 39. Andrew Carroll Recommended Formation Using the current first team squad without making any changes, I would recommend playing a simple 4-4-2, with fast mixed or direct passing, decent width, little creative freedom (just use it for individual players), with a slightly attacking mentality, focusing passing down the wings. GK: Given DR: Beye DL: Enrique DC: Taylor DC: Colloccini MR: Gutierrez ML: N’Zogbia MC: Guthrie MC: Barton ST: Owen ST: Martins Recommended Improvements In my opinion the squad could do with 5 or 6 more quality players to be considered as a top 6 contending team. The positions that need strengthening are left back, centre back, centre midfield, both wings and up front. I feel a left back is needed as although Enrique is strong and solid, he just isn’t up to scratch technique-wise, therefore the new player should be good enough to be first choice. Possible Targets: Manuel Pasqual (Fiorentina), Taye Taiwo (Marseille), Razvan Rat (Shakhtar) The new centre back would provide cover and rotation for the current partnership of Coloccini and Taylor, which I believe will be a pretty good duo at the back. Possible Targets: Christopher Samba (Blackburn), Guy Demel (HSV), Mirel Radoi (Steaua) Centre midfield needs a creative spark, as all but one (Ignacio Gonzalez) of the current crop are more defensive minded. Therefore a creative attacking player is required here to partner one of the defensive players. Possible Targets: Alex (Internacional), Juan Roman Riquelme (Boca), Diego Buonanotte (River), Douglas Costa (Gremio) Cover is needed for both wings as there is no natural right winger other than Jonas, and I feel Duff isn’t good enough to cover for N’Zogbia. I would suggest bringing in a more experienced player on the left, and a younger player for the right. Possible Targets: Alessandro Rosina (Torino), Cani (Villarreal), Juan Arango (Mallorca), Francois Clerc (Lyon), Marko Babic (Betis) Finally I feel we need another good striker to rotate with Owen and Martins, as Viduka, in my opinion, is past it and should only be used sparingly and I don’t feel Xisco will ever become anything special. The new man should be tall, strong and good in the air, ala Adebayor at Arsenal. Possible Targets: Stephen Ayodele Makinwa (Lazio), Kevin Doyle (Reading), Soren Larsen (Toulouse), Maroune Chamakh (Bordeaux), Marco Borriello (A.C Milan) On the selling front, I would look to sell Cacapa, Alan Smith, Mark Viduka, and depending on your singings, also sell Damien Duff. So there's a brief description of the club and a basic analysis of the squad. With a few quality signings you could be competing for the UEFA Cup 1st season. I'd make it a four year plan to break into the top four and maybe grab the title. So all I have left to say is good luck with the Toon, and I hope you can bring the glory days back to Tyneside! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linfield Fc Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 also a possible target for an Attacking Midfielder Luis Jimenez, Van der Vaart and for Target Striker Maroune Chamakh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Abit of copy and paste going on in the opening post Not that I mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linfield Fc Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 here mate also we get a 6.75m transfer budget Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Great thread, on the MC reccommendations you put Luis Kiminez - ideal you need to change that. Otherwise, fab thread:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linfield Fc Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 and also a 1.1m wage budget Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sean10 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 and also a 1.1m wage budget Thanks mate, sorry for the errors it's just I've been writing this for a week now and wanted to get it up, plus it doesn't help that my crappy internet is takin ages to download the demo so can't check it yet, it will all be definitely finished tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Brilliant opening post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish30018260 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 great post altho with 5.5m i got i dont think i can buy much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 What do people think of Per Ciljan Skjelbred's stats for a backup CM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish30018260 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 he is good JOEYT he wants to play for us in real life too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Brilliant opening post Agreed, nice OP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soli Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Excellent opening post. Can anybody tell me if there are any hidden transfer clauses as was the case with Martins in FM 08 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrensen Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Thanks for starting this thread! I've only got 5.5 mil. Not sure Newcastle can get VDV though??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Has anyone sold Owen yet? AC Milan came in with a good offer of 8mil and I really need the money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I've accepted a bid from Spurs of 11.5 mil for Owen.:o Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 How does Jonas look? And Colo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I'll post a screenshot in a minute Hopey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Imageshack isn't working for me so, Coloccini looks very good with lots of top stats but Jonas looks very poor especially since he has been great this year. Lots of single figures Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Imageshack isn't working for me so, Coloccini looks very good with lots of top stats but Jonas looks very poor especially since he has been great this year. Lots of single figures S'okay, I have just downloaded/installed strawberry demo so just checked, agree with you Colo looks pretty ace! Jonas looks abit shabby considering how good he is IRL Odd... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl87 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Er..... Ok, this is scary; new owners are apparently coming in and are rumoured to have another managed lined up. It hasn't happened yet, but I'll not be a happy chappy if this happens on every start, it will make Newcastle essentially unmanageable! Anyone else experienced this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I desperately need a new striker Please help 11mil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I desperately need a new striker Please help 11mil Erm, Cardozo? Also have a look at Pavel Pogrebnyak he doesn't look too bad! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I've put a bid in for the former and if that doesn't work out, I'll try for the latter:thup: Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I've put a bid in for the former and if that doesn't work out, I'll try for the latter:thup:Cheers Have a look at Lisandro Lopez too, hard to say in a way because I'm not sure what type of player Newcastle can attract and the fact that everyone is new to the demo etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Cardozo didn't want to come and it looks like Pav is on his way and Chris Hughton rates him better than Cardozo anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Cardozo didn't want to come and it looks like Pav is on his way and Chris Hughton rates him better than Cardozo anyway Yeah but that's Chris Hughton! Don't know how good he is stat-wise as a coach/ass.man. Can't see either.. Lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Michael Owen failed a medical at Spurs so I didn't get the 11mil and no Pav Owen out for 3 months too. Typical Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Michael Owen failed a medical at Spurs so I didn't get the 11mil and no Pav Owen out for 3 months too. Typical LOL, typical indeed. Sorry mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Martins is lethal on this though. So quick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fataldinho Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Not got the demo so can't see; but how good is Xisco and Guthrie? I heard earlier that Colo looks good but Jonas is disappointing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terras-FM Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Great Starter of the thread well done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Not got the demo so can't see; but how good is Xisco and Guthrie? I heard earlier that Colo looks good but Jonas is disappointing. Both average although Guthrie has scored some screamers for me. Gonzalez is surprisingly good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piddy Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 great opening post, but i was just wondering why you thought you needed another striker because you don't think xisco is good enough, he looks fine to me his finishing is great an all his other stats look fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sean10 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I just don't feel Xisco will get any better tbh, and stats aren't everything. His stats were more or less the same on 08 but he wasn't very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrensen Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Lads, where do you think Toon need to strengthen up? Can you recommend any signings with the little money that we have to spend. Anyone got to a take over point? Would be interesting to know how much the new owner gives us!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Xisco works very well on this if you use him as a target man. I'm playing 4-3-3 formation and using Xisco as a target man. He flicks in on for Makinwa and Martins to run onto and chips in with a few goals aswell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sean10 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 darrensen - Read the opening post, I said where I feel the squad needs strengthening. Haven't actually played the game much, just been scouting and looking at players from 08 to see how good they are, and been looking for new youth. Just getting ready for the full game really lol. Anon - Hmmm might have to try that, maybe I'll change my opinion of the lad I like the new feature where you get your assistant to look for loan players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrensen Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Cheers Sean, i did see your post but just wondered what others thought. I can see it being very tough for Toon in FM 09! At least for the 1st few seasons! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIR J Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I am trying to get O'Toole from watford what do you reckon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 O'Toole looks a decent Championship player and he would never stop trying but I'm not sure that is what Newcastle need with Butt,Barton and Guthrie already. How much were you going to pay for him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl87 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I started a new game with that injury editor to remove 'unnecessary' injuries. I play 5-4-1 with: Shay Given Miguel Torres (loan to buy - £4m) Ste Taylor Fabrico Coloccini Fabrico Fuentes (£450k) Habib Beye Nicky Butt Joey Barton Zog Jonás Micky Owen Not doing too bad, but only played poor teams in all fairness. PS. 1-0 the night! 'Mon the Toon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 My injury list: Jonas-2 months Owen- 3 months Per Ciljan Skjelbred- a month Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sean10 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Right I actually started playing it now and just coming up to my first league game. So far I've managed to sell absolutely nobody . I set expectations to winner seeing as though the game only lasts 6 months, so got £6.75m to play with. I brought in Manuel Pasqual for £2m and Stephen Makinwa for £1.9m. The board also gave me an extra £1m so I have £3.9m left. I also brought in Santiago Acasiete and Xavier Margairaz on loan, both came recommended by Hughton. I'm trying to sell Jonas as I'm going to try a 4-3-3 with no wingers so won't need him, plus it's only the demo so I'm not too bothered, but no-one wants him . Not sure who to get with remaining money, but the team I'm going to start the season with will look something like this: GK: Given DR: Beye DL: Pasqual DC: Taylor DC: Coloccini MCa: Margairaz MCd: Butt or Guthrie MCa: N'Zogbia FW: Martins ST: Xisco FW: Makinwa Wish me luck! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish30018260 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 i sold owen for 5mil to ac milan. the atts for jonas are poor compared to 08 its a shame Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish30018260 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Oh if any wants a really cheap buy go for RIVALDO i know i know he is old but he is a good player to have for one season and great atts and gets alot of goals!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the--dud Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Good post, but personally I don't like managing in Britain... My question is quite simple: I've heard LuaLua has quite good stats in FM09, any one tried to give him a run of games? What is he like? Anyone mind posting a screenshot perhaps? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutch3723 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Agree with so much of the above: 433 seems to work well, with Xisco as your main target man and set 'to head' O' Toole fits in well - I bought him in my demo. Rivaldo has been good for me too. I would advise to get rid of Enrique and buy Rat - he was transfer listed on mine and plays really well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish30018260 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Ok i have seen people ask a few questions bout players etc so ill put up some pics, first of all is the team its self. [/img] AS YOU CAN SEE THE ONLY REAL PLAYER THERE WHICH IS WORTH A LOOK FROM ANY OTHER CLUB IS BEYE [/img] THIS SUPRISED ME TO BE HONEST BECAUSE XISCOS ATTS ARE NOT THAT BAD AND HE DOES SCORE ALOT. I ALSO HAVE OWEN THERE TOO LOOK AT AND SOMEONE ASKED ABOUT LUA LUA. [/img] [/img] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish30018260 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I DID MENTION IN AN EARLIER POST THAT RIVALDO IS WELL WORTH A BUY IF ONLY FOR A SEASON, AS YOU CAN SEE HIS STATS ARE GREAT AND HE SCORES ALOT (NO BS) I GOT HIM FOR 500K AND IN FOUR GAMES SCORED 5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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