TigerTime Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Can someone on SI go onto the technical forum because there are loads of people on the grahical failed thread who are waiting for si to help them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isuckatfm Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 2 issues:- 1. Maximum Display Memory according to dxdiag I could check this easily so here's a list of all the dxdiags posted in that thread 64 MB 64 MB n/a 184 MB n/a 32 MB 32 MB n/a 64 MB 64 MB 32 MB 64 MB n/a 64 MB 64 MB 32 MB 32 MB 32 MB n/a 128 MB n/a n/a 64 MB 14/16 that aren't n/a have less than the minimum 128 MB required. 2. latest driver for their graphics card Not going to check this but only really applies to those with 128 MB memory minimum. ------------ So for those with 128 MB and the latest drivers installed, questioning why there is an issue is valid. For those with less than the mimimum then I don't see how SI can help them. Should someone from SI look at all of those dxdiags to check Display Memory and whether or not the graphics card is up to date, and then search online for a more up to date driver and point the poster in that direction? Or should the people with the issue read the minimum specs and read responses in the thread stating 'try updating your graphics card drivers' and then show a little initiative and find out if there is a more recent driver than the one they have installed? Not being a smartarse just showing the two sides of the argument in terms of expectations of customer support. A little bit of googling and taking 20/30 minutes to read a few websites would teach you the little bit needed to be able to look at those two elements of the dxdiag and figure out if it is part of the issue. Just to clarify not looking for an argument or attacking you personally. Just pointing out the viewpoints on this 'issue'. For me the Intel GMA problem is more of an issue than people with less than the minimum display memory not being able to get the demo to install. I'd rather if someone from SI took the time to post some info on that rather than responding to every single dxdiag that people post without reading what has already been stated about the minimum display memory requirements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddon879 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I think the guys at SI will be asleep, havent seen a reply for a while. They have worked hard to get this far. They are due a rest. I'm sure they al just want a good nights sleep before they start on the hundreds of issues that have been reported since the demo went live. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iacovone Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Poor guys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 Can you tell me how to upgrade my graphics card? Thats all i need because FM08 runs smooth on my computer and the demo should work because FM08 took up more space than the demo and i've uninstalled FM08! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 I've checked how much room i have on my pc and it says i have over 120mb aviadable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isuckatfm Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Can you tell me how to upgrade my graphics card? Thats all i need because FM08 runs smooth on my computer and the demo should work because FM08 took up more space than the demo and i've uninstalled FM08! If you mean update your graphics card drivers then:- 1. Run dxdiag How to get your Dxdiag information Windows XP 1. Click on “Start” 2. Click on “Run” 3. In the text prompt box that appears type “dxdiag” and click ok. 4. Once the dxdiag program has finished scanning your machine click “Save All Information” save this to a place you will remember. 5. It will save it to a text document called DxDiag by default Windows Vista 1. Click on “Start” 2. Click inside the search box 3. In the search box type “dxdiag” and click ok. 4. Once the dxdiag program has finished scanning your machine click “Save All Information” save this to a place you will remember. 5. It will save it to a text document called DxDiag by default 2. Open the DxDiag text file you just saved. Scroll down to the section 'Display Devices'. Check the value next to 'Display Memory'. Then check the date next to 'Driver Date/Size' and the value next to 'Driver Version'. 3. To check if there is a newer driver version for your graphics card:- (i) go to your machine manufacturers website and check their support section. This will typically have a date and/or version number associated with the most recent graphics driver release. Compare this to your dxdiag report values. If the date is later then download the driver and follow the installation process (ii) alternatively go to the manufacturer of your graphics card website and check their support area for a newer driver -------------------- Two possible issues (probably more but I don't know enough technically) 1. Laptop manufacturers may not support latest releases by original graphics card manufacturers. Thus if you decide to install direct from the graphics card manufacturer you do so at your own risk with respect to system stability etc. 2. A general rule of thumb is that desktops tend to be more compatible with unsupported graphics card manufacturer driver updates than laptops (not based on experience but reading various 'expert opinions' so open to correction from those with first hand regular experience) --------------------- Before updating your driver with a card manufacturer update as opposed to machine manufacturer update, set a system restore point. A quick google will reveal how to do this on whichever operting system you are on. (XP Start > Programs > Accessories > System Tools > System Restore). So if something goes wrong you can get back to where you were. All you are doing is changing software and doing so is not going to render your machine inoperable permanently (not in my experience anyway ). It might involve drastic measures but there will generally be a fix if a software change causes issues. No doubt some of the more technically minded will poke holes in that but following those instructions has helped me and others in the past with graphics issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOriginalJez Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 120mb on your harddrive? you have some cleaning up to do lol assuming you're on a desktop upgrading your graphics card shouldn't be too difficult assuming you have a spare £100 lying about. Most come with instructions on how to install. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 Can i do anything else which isn't going to cost? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOriginalJez Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Read the post above mine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 Thanks for all the help so far i've done what he's said and i'm about to download a new driver but i don't know which one i need to download! There's a System Software, Chipset Driver, Video(Display) Driver, Audio Sound driver, Modem Driver, Network Controller driver, Printer Driver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOriginalJez Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Slow down! Find out what your graphics card is (look under display from Start/Run/DXDIAG) go to the official website of the manufacturer, probably under download or support you'll find drivers, find the one that matches your model from the dxdiag and download the latest of them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isuckatfm Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Post your system manufacturer and model, as well as the Display Devices section of your dxdiag. Or post a link to the webpage you are looking at with all of those things listed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 Ok here it is: ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 11/2/2008, 07:01:02 Machine name: JOE Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.080814-1233) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Dell Computer Corp. System Model: Inspiron 1000 BIOS: PhoenixBIOS 4.0 Release 6.0 Processor: Mobile Intel® Celeron® CPU 2.20GHz Memory: 446MB RAM Page File: 382MB used, 337MB available Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode Display Devices --------------- Card name: SiS M650 Manufacturer: SiS Chip type: SiS M650 Rev 00 DAC type: Internal Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_6325&SUBSYS_01951028&REV_00 Display Memory: 64.0 MB Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz) Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200 Driver Name: SiSGRV.dll Driver Version: 6.14.0010.3592 (English) DDI Version: 9 (or higher) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 6/11/2004 22:00:44, 1138688 bytes WHQL Logo'd: Yes WHQL Date Stamp: n/a VDD: n/a Mini VDD: sisgrp.sys Mini VDD Date: 6/10/2004 17:56:16, 216320 bytes Device Identifier: {D7B71ED9-2065-11CF-907D-9F21A1C2CB35} Vendor ID: 0x1039 Device ID: 0x6325 SubSys ID: 0x01951028 Revision ID: 0x0000 Revision ID: 0x0000 Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_D ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG1_A Deinterlace Caps: n/a Registry: OK DDraw Status: Enabled D3D Status: Enabled AGP Status: Enabled DDraw Test Result: Not run D3D7 Test Result: Not run D3D8 Test Result: Not run D3D9 Test Result: Not run And heres the link:http://support.euro.dell.com/support/topics/topic.aspx/emea/shared/support/dsn/en/document?c=uk&l=en&s=gen&docid=3BAD07C032875FAAE040A68F5B286D16&journalid=5A9D1EEB047C283CE040AE0AB5E12E12&Query=&SystemID=&ServiceTag=&contenttype=&os=&component=〈=&doclang=&toggle=&dl= Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 So any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isuckatfm Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Display Memory: 64.0 MB The irony of it all My first post in this thread pretty much covers what your issue might well be. I even mentioned how people don't actually read what people post and just skim. If the game is set up to check specs and is told the minimum is 128MB then it might be a cause for this issue but that is just wild speculation on my part. In any case http://support.euro.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=uk&l=en&s=gen&ServiceTag=&SystemID=INS_CEL_1000&os=WW1&osl=en&catid=&impid= suggests you have the latest Dell recommended driver for your machine. Read my prior post about installing non system manufacturer supported drivers on a laptop before trying the following card manufacturer newer driver. Or go here and read what SiS themselves have to say http://www.sis.com/download/agreement.php?url=/download/ then follow the links. Then Windows XP > IGP Drivers > SiS 650 etc then download the most recent one SiS UniVGA3 Graphics Driver which is from 2006. Follow whatever instructions there are (usually included as a 'READ ME' text file) to update your drivers. Set a system restore point before installing the newer drivers just in case. Just to reiterate doing this can potentially mess up your machine (not never work again but potentially pain in the arse to fix if you don't set a system restore point). SO DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK. But as I said the mimimum is stated as 128 MB. You have 64 MB. Thus updating your drivers might not make any difference but only someone from SI can answer that question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 What do i do on the dell link i can't see anywhere where it says download. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 Sorry worked out what to do! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 Should i just open it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isuckatfm Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 On the Dell link click the plus next to Video. Look at the date. Now compare that to what you posted above from dxdiag next to Driver Date/Size. Same date therefore there is no more up to date driver that is supported by Dell themselves. So your next port of call is the manufacturer of your graphics card. I have posted above the link and also the warnings with regards to using newer drivers not supported by the system manufacturer. Being the internet this is going to come across as me being a dick but I have to ask. Did you actually read anything I posted already? My original post explained it already. If you're looking for step by step because you are afraid of messing up your machine fair enough but the truth is I have no clue what effect installing the SiS drivers might have. All I'm saying is you can set a system restore point, install the SiS newer drivers, and if your machine goes haywire just restore your machine to the point prior to the installation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 Ok i've done it now shall i just check to see if the demo works? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isuckatfm Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Ok i've done it now shall i just check to see if the demo works? What's it? Installed the 2006 SiS drivers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 Eventually i managed to do it yes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isuckatfm Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Run dxdiag again and check the Driver Date/Size to make sure it 'took'. If it is the newer 2006 one then start up FM 09 demo and see what happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 The dates changed so heres the moment of truth! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 EH! It's not working! Same message again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 Maybe i have to download it again so it changes it graphic system? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isuckatfm Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 One last time for those in the cheap seats First Post in Demo Specs thread:- PC System RequirementsOS - Windows Vista or XP Processor Speed - Vista - 2.0GHz, XP - 1.4GHz Memory - Vista - 1GB, XP - 512MB Videocard - 128MB Nvidia FX 5900 Ultra, ATI Radeon 9800, Intel 82915G/82910GL or greater. Your dxdiag Display Memory: 64.0 MB As I said The irony of it all Seriously, if there was a 'smacks head' smilie I'd be putting it right here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 Is there anything i can do! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isuckatfm Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 If 128 MB is the minimum regardless of wanting to use 3D or not, then no. If SI release some kind of patch or if the boxed version is different to the demo (don't even know if it's possible as I know nowt of how it all works) such that it allows the user to say 'I just want my 2D' so as to bypass the 128 MB requirement (assuming it is the minimum to get 3D) and assuming it is no more graphically taxing than FM 08 with 3D completely disabled then you might have a lifeline. But you know what happens when you assume something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_Abs Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Maybe SI should incorporate into the installer an option for the 3d match engine to be installed and thus not needing the same type of graphics car array as current, could go back to same graphics set up that way as fm08 and everyone who can play 08 with know they can play 09. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macgyver0 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Miles said "Please note that if your PC graphics card is not capable of playing the game with the 3d match engine, it will default to the 2d view from previous FM releases, but the game will still run." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Yes, but they do not support graphics card with less than the minimum spec. There has to a be a cut off somewhere, they cant support every graphics card ever. The problem is, now that the games contains 3D, all the graphics are rendered with DirectX, so old crappy cards will not work. If you have a PC, a graphics card upgrade is simple. If you have a laptop, you need a new laptop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
croatia-fm Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Card name: RADEON 9200 PRO Family (Microsoft Corporation) Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc. Chip type: RADEON 9200 PRO AGP (0x5960) DAC type: Internal DAC(500MHz) Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5960&SUBSYS_2094148C&REV_01 Display Memory: 128.0 MB Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz) Monitor: SyncMaster 793DF/793MB Monitor Max Res: 1280,1024 Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6462 (English) DDI Version: 9 (or higher) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 8/4/2004 00:56:42, 201728 bytes WHQL Logo'd: Yes WHQL Date Stamp: n/a VDD: n/a Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys Mini VDD Date: 8/3/2004 22:29:28, 701440 bytes Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-1A20-11CF-026E-9E00A0C2CB35} Vendor ID: 0x1002 Device ID: 0x5960 SubSys ID: 0x2094148C Revision ID: 0x0001 Revision ID: 0x0001 Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch Registry: OK DDraw Status: Enabled D3D Status: Enabled AGP Status: Enabled DDraw Test Result: Not run D3D7 Test Result: Not run D3D8 Test Result: Not run D3D9 Test Result: Not run Someone please help me, what is te problem and have can i fix it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isuckatfm Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 @ croatia-fm Your dxdiag says Driver Date/Size: 8/4/2004 00:56:42, 201728 bytes So try updating it as I described previously (including reading the warnings) either via your System manufacturer's website or via your graphics card manufacturer, ATI's website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 I'm going to have to wait until Christmas for a new laptop so no FM until 25th of December! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawnisen Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Display Devices --------------- Card name: VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP Manufacturer: VIA/S3G Chip type: VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP DAC type: Internal Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3108&SUBSYS_81291043&REV_01 Display Memory: 64.0 MB Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz) Monitor: Plug and Play-bildskärm Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200 Driver Name: vtdisp.dll Driver Version: 6.14.0010.0282 (English) DDI Version: 9 (or higher) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 2/6/2006 11:24:50, 3492736 bytes WHQL Logo'd: Yes WHQL Date Stamp: n/a VDD: Saknas Mini VDD: vtmini.sys Mini VDD Date: 2/6/2006 11:24:58, 248448 bytes Device Identifier: {D7B71FE6-7248-11CF-E972-23A1A0C2CB35} Vendor ID: 0x1106 Device ID: 0x3108 SubSys ID: 0x81291043 Revision ID: 0x0001 Revision ID: 0x0001 Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D Deinterlace Caps: n/a Registry: OK DDraw Status: Enabled D3D Status: Enabled So this pretty much means i need to buy a new Graphic card?, (If so, Any tips?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
croatia-fm Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Card name: RADEON 9250 Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc. Chip type: RADEON 9250 AGP (0x5960) DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz) Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5960&SUBSYS_2094148C&REV_01 Display Memory: 128.0 MB Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz) Monitor: SyncMaster 793DF/793MB Monitor Max Res: 1280,1024 Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6614 (English) DDI Version: 9 (or higher) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 5/3/2006 16:51:00, 258048 bytes WHQL Logo'd: Yes WHQL Date Stamp: n/a VDD: n/a Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys Mini VDD Date: 5/3/2006 16:50:42, 1540608 bytes Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-1A20-11CF-EA6E-9E00A0C2CB35} Vendor ID: 0x1002 Device ID: 0x5960 SubSys ID: 0x2094148C Revision ID: 0x0001 Revision ID: 0x0001 Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBLineReplicate {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch Registry: OK DDraw Status: Enabled D3D Status: Enabled AGP Status: Enabled DDraw Test Result: Not run D3D7 Test Result: Not run D3D8 Test Result: Not run D3D9 Test Result: Not run I try to install what you say, an now i see some changes but i also cant play demo. If you have some time, can you please give me a link of driver that i need to download. Thank you very much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Dejyothin Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 From having a scan through the thread here alot of the system specs (especially on the Graphics Card side of things) won't meet the minimuim requirements. I've tried to get some URL's together to places where you might be able to find the latest updates for your system (google if I've not covered your system). It might be worth checking you have the latest updates for your system For those with branded machines (e.g. Dell, HP, Packard Bell) it's advised to visit the particular manufacturer website to find the latest drivers for your particular branded system. Microsoft DirectX Runtime ------------------------- http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=2da43d38-db71-4c1b-bc6a-9b6652cd92a3&displaylang=en Windows Update -------------- XP/Vista: Start > Windows Update / Microsoft Update nVidia Drivers -------------- http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us ATI Drivers ----------- http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html Intel Drivers ------------- http://downloadcenter.intel.com/default.aspx SiS Drivers ----------- http://www.sis.com/download/agreement.php?url=/download/ Via Drivers ----------- http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=2 S3 Drivers ---------- http://www.s3graphics.com/en/resources/drivers/legacy/software_archive.jsp ---------------- -Manufacturers- ---------------- - Dell http://support.euro.dell.com/support/index.aspx?c=uk&l=en&s=gen&~ck=pn - HP/Compaq http://www.hp.com/country/us/en/welcome_acc_supp.html#Support - Packard Bell (UK) http://support.packardbell.com/uk/ - Acer (UK) http://support.acer-euro.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlHighfield Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Which one needs downloading for the graphics error if there is one on there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 It depends on which computer or laptop you have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 Which one needs downloading for the graphics error if there is one on there I've downloaded a new driver but it doesn't make any difference! There must be another solution! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isuckatfm Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 @ croatia-fm Try this link http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html As I've said before though do it at your own risk and set a system restore point just in case. EDIT: or see Paul Dejyothin's post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isuckatfm Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 From having a scan through the thread here alot of the system specs (especially on the Graphics Card side of things) won't meet the minimuim requirements. I've downloaded a new driver but it doesn't make any difference! There must be another solution! As I posted already the minimum is 128MB, you have 64MB. There is the SI poster more or less confirming this although I may 'be putting words in his mouth'. Without a 'disable the graphical extras so I can run it on 64MB like FM 08 did' option, your only solution is a new card or if not possible a new machine. Yes it sucks but such is life and the nature of progress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
croatia-fm Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I install this one, and it change from Radeon 9200 to Radeon 9250, but i dont know what to install next so that i can play demo. http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/xp/radeon-prer300-xp.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonkyDick Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I can get the 3D up no problem, my problem is the game stuttering every 1-2 seconds. I have an NVIDIA GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS - 512Mb, I have installed the latest drivers from their site and it still does it. I even went into the NVIDIA options and changed all the options to performance over quality and it still stutters along. The 3D mostly looks fine, I have no problem with the graphics but the stuttering makes it pretty much unwatchable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 Miles Jacobsen said you could still run the game on 64mb but you wouldn't beable to use 3d. I wouldn't mind that as 3d has been getting bad reviews, but i can't access the game at all! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serpico Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I can get the 3D up no problem, my problem is the game stuttering every 1-2 seconds.I have an NVIDIA GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS - 512Mb, I have installed the latest drivers from their site and it still does it. I even went into the NVIDIA options and changed all the options to performance over quality and it still stutters along. The 3D mostly looks fine, I have no problem with the graphics but the stuttering makes it pretty much unwatchable. What size monitor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riazzi_G Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 mine is 250mb.... should it work?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonkyDick Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 What size monitor? 17 inch, how does that make a difference?:confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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