hm86 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I'm Rangers so no world class strikers, but goals seem to come from the inverted wingers or defenders. Again can't fault the tactic but would prefer the strikers to be the main goal getters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munegu44116 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) Possible to make me a screen of the tactics with the placement of the players to see if it is the good one that I use for the V2 please ? Or V3 I try to use the V3 but I have 4 players who are not top at their post si the MR/ML and the defenders insiste .. the shot that they are not super his case breaks the tactics I believe.. Do I have to download the first post on page 1 ? Edited December 18, 2018 by Munegu44116 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munegu44116 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) il y a une heure, Malibden a dit : FC Sevilla, the 1st season Battlemaster V3 Can you show me your tactical tab like this so that I can see some of the posts and roles of the players just to see if it's the right tactic . I’ve downloaded Edited December 18, 2018 by Munegu44116 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munegu44116 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) il y a 39 minutes, Malibden a dit : if you download the tactic from the 1st post of this thread then you downloaded Battlemaster V3 I see that you too are internal side and inner winger are not great at their post me it’s the same and I wanted to know if it really prevents the tactics but I see quennon what do you train ? Edited December 18, 2018 by Munegu44116 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm86 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Munegu44116 said: I see that you too are internal side and inner winger are not great at their post me it’s the same and I wanted to know if it really prevents the tactics but I see quennon what do you train ? The recommended training is on the first page (below). Thats what I train, not sure if @Malibden uses the same though. INDIVIDUAL TRAINING FOCUS STC – Complete Forward ( Attack )AMC - Trequartista ( Attack ) ML/MR – Inverted Winger ( Attack ) MC – Deep Lying Playmaker ( Support ) DM – Defensive Midfielder ( Support ) WBL / WBR - Inverted Wing-Back ( Attack ) DCL / DCR - Ball Playing Defender ( Defend )GK – Goalkeeper ( Defend ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munegu44116 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 il y a 1 minute, hm86 a dit : The recommended training is on the first page (below). Thats what I train, not sure if @Malibden uses the same though. INDIVIDUAL TRAINING FOCUS STC – Complete Forward ( Attack )AMC - Trequartista ( Attack ) ML/MR – Inverted Winger ( Attack ) MC – Deep Lying Playmaker ( Support ) DM – Defensive Midfielder ( Support ) WBL / WBR - Inverted Wing-Back ( Attack ) DCL / DCR - Ball Playing Defender ( Defend )GK – Goalkeeper ( Defend ) yes but you do not use his role for matches Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm86 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Munegu44116 said: yes but you do not use his role for matches Nope, I train individually exactly as it states above. I assume those trainings provide the best spread of stats for the positions. Playing the player in the position can help him become more familiar, but I don't really think it makes much difference whether the little circle is green or not as long as the player has the right attributes for the position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munegu44116 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Il y a 2 heures, hm86 a dit : Nope, I train individually exactly as it states above. I assume those trainings provide the best spread of stats for the positions. Playing the player in the position can help him become more familiar, but I don't really think it makes much difference whether the little circle is green or not as long as the player has the right attributes for the position. Thank You in general practice what do you use ? Tactics ? Or offensive combination ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 *********THE TACTIC HAS BEEN UPDATED TO V4Further tweaks have been applied to increase the tactic efficiency ********* 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm86 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Munegu44116 said: Thank You in general practice what do you use ? Tactics ? Or offensive combination ? Apologies, I am not sure I understand what you are asking? If you are referring to training then yeah, I normally train the players for the position and role that they will fullfil within the tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm86 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 @Totalfootballfan do your strikers score most of the goals? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, hm86 said: @Totalfootballfan do your strikers score most of the goals? It varies greatly from save to save and there are many factors which affect the amount of goals the striker scores in this tactic … such factors as the quality of the striker, in general the quality of your team, especially, compare with the quality of your opponents… In general goals are spread almost equally between STC/AMC/MR/ML positions If you want your striker to score the most of goal you can set him to take the penalties, it might give him an additional +20 goals per season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munegu44116 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 il y a 40 minutes, hm86 a dit : Apologies, I am not sure I understand what you are asking? If you are referring to training then yeah, I normally train the players for the position and role that they will fullfil within the tactic. I asked you what is your team training ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm86 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Just now, Munegu44116 said: I asked you what is your team training ? I leave team training to the assistant, I only set individual training. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassy Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Decent start with Forest with V3... Struggling to score a bit in recent games, often I'm absolutely dominating team and only getting a single goal. I blame that on FM19 though, not the tactic! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 18 minutes ago, Glassy said: Decent start with Forest with V3... Struggling to score a bit in recent games, often I'm absolutely dominating team and only getting a single goal. I blame that on FM19 though, not the tactic! I'm glad it works good for you... Try V4 ... it's got some nice improvements to the attacking build-up play… on a long road these improvements will give better results Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassy Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I'll give it a try now. The tactic is immense defensively! Improving the attack would certainly help the nerves with all these 1-0s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassy Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Gone a bit pear shaped with V4 I'm afraid... Switching back to V3! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, Glassy said: Gone a bit pear shaped with V4 I'm afraid... Switching back to V3! Mate, have you thought that with V3 you might have the same or even worse results? If you want to take my advice regarding tactics testing then I’d say that any test which is less than 200 matches is like a drop in ocean and in cases if you want to get a very accurate data then you should test no less than 500 matches and I’m talking about a testing environment where many random factors are eliminated comparing with a normal gameplay… I suggest that you stick with V4 because believe me “on a long road” which consists of few or more seasons your results will be better with V4 than with V3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebuuu Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Hey TFF. I`ve startet a completely new career save with Hertha BSC and it is looking really fine so far. I feel like this tactic is better for middleclass-teams like my Hertha than V3. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Nebuuu said: Hey TFF. I`ve startet a completely new career save with Hertha BSC and it is looking really fine so far. I feel like this tactic is better for middleclass-teams like my Hertha than V3. Hey mate, When you are saying "this tactic" do you mean V4? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebuuu Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 vor 23 Minuten schrieb Totalfootballfan: Hey mate, When you are saying "this tactic" do you mean V4? Yes, V4 is for middleclass-Teams, like Hertha, better than V3. I have the feeling my guys scoring more goals, which was a problem overall the last ~60-70 Matches with V3 as Hertha. Maybe it was my fault and too much randomness, but i just have this feeling V4 is the best tactic so far for the FM19. Thx m8 and i really looking positive into the FM-Future, thanks to your help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nebuuu said: Yes, V4 is for middleclass-Teams, like Hertha, better than V3. I have the feeling my guys scoring more goals, which was a problem overall the last ~60-70 Matches with V3 as Hertha. Maybe it was my fault and too much randomness, but i just have this feeling V4 is the best tactic so far for the FM19. Thx m8 and i really looking positive into the FM-Future, thanks to your help Yes, V4 received a nice boost to the attacking build-up play so the scoring goals should improved decently I'm glad to hear it works good for you, mate 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassy Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I got promoted in my first season with Forest, won the Championship with V4... Also doing pretty well in the PL, the results are just a bit all over the place. It's definitely better going forward, but a bit bonkers at the back! No real complaints, because we're still overachieving. I just feel V3 was better defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 *********THE TACTIC HAS BEEN UPDATED TO V5Guy, this update has increased the tactic efficiency about 30% which is freaking huge I'd say there's 99.9% probability that Battlemaster V5 is my last tactic until the next significant ME changes which might happen in the future. I find that Battlemaster V5 includes all things which works the most efficient under the current ME. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munegu44116 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) I Started with the Paderborn D2 German goal was the maintenance in D2 and I play the climb see the title of D2. I use the V5 really magic thank you TFF Edited December 20, 2018 by Munegu44116 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisHallUK Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Battlemaster is more beautiful to watch as well, better build-up play, but also looking for that through ball! Love it, currently in non-league football and working a gem, beat premiership opponents in the 3rd round of the FA Cup and just lost 2-0 to a full strength Man Utd side in the 4th Round, very impressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwccfc1987 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Very impressed since switching from V2 the opposition scores goals for fun and I can't buy a win. Really glad to be plummeting down the table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Den1ss Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Sry but actually the latest update performance comes largely from the throw in bug, because players are not marked and half the goals scored come that way. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco9sal Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 does V5 still work effectively in the new 19.2.1 patch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
42816 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Can someone post the PI’s please? I play on an iPad and can’t download the tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flohrinho Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 3 hours ago, 42816 said: Can someone post the PI’s please? I play on an iPad and can’t download the tactic. Quote OPPOSITION INSTRUCTIONSI suggest not setting any Opposition Instructions and not letting your assistant manager to do that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balie02 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 where does filter download go, cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimartino Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 2 horas atrás, Flohrinho disse: He asked for PI's not OI's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flohrinho Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, dimartino said: He asked for PI's not OI's. Sorry, my bad. @42816 here are the PI's you need to put in yourself AF: Take More Risks, Dribble More, Close Down More, Tackle Harder, Mark Tighter SS: Shoot Less Often, Close Down More, Tackle Harder, Mark Tighter IW-At: Pass It Shorter, Cross More Often, Sit Narrower, Close Down More, Tackle Harder, Mark Tighter IW-Su: Pass It Shorter, Cross More Often, Close Down More, Tackle Harder, Mark Tighter BBM: Take More Risks, Dribble More, Shoot Less Often, Get Further Forward, Move Into Channels, Close Down More, Tackle Harder, Mark Tighter DLP: Dribble More, Close Down More, Tackle Harder, Mark Tighter IWB: Pass It Shorter, Dribble More, Shoot Less Often, Tackle Harder BPD: Dribble More, Shoot Less Often, Stay Wider, Close Down Less, Tackle Harder, Mark Tighter G: Pass It Shorter, Take Fewer Risks Edited December 22, 2018 by Flohrinho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
42816 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Thanks! @Malibden @Flohrinho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwccfc1987 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Just love watching the lads create nowt while the oppo hogs all the chances. Great tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolveslegend Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Great tactic. Worked for my Ipswich side and now for my Tottenham side. over 25 chances a match and a few 7-0. 8-1 scores. Usually my goals are coming from midfield but striker chips in with 20-25 season so not complaining. Give it time and don't mess around with it to much, as long as the players can play in the roles the team adapts quickly. Keep developing it TFF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwccfc1987 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 16 minutes ago, wolveslegend said: Great tactic. Worked for my Ipswich side and now for my Tottenham side. over 25 chances a match and a few 7-0. 8-1 scores. Usually my goals are coming from midfield but striker chips in with 20-25 season so not complaining. Give it time and don't mess around with it to much, as long as the players can play in the roles the team adapts quickly. Keep developing it TFF. Great for you my guys miss a million sitters a match then routinely lose in the 85+ minute. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinball_88 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 4 часа назад, jwccfc1987 сказал: Great for you my guys miss a million sitters a match then routinely lose in the 85+ minute. same opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sekaser Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) After five seasons doing okay with the STORMCALLER V14, I struggled a bit last season so I decided to give the BATTLEMASTER V5 a try and... well I don't think too much need to be said, just have a look at the picture! And just some extra info: Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler I made sure to have a tailored squad, as you can see I was predicted to finish 5th so I had nothing really special. The tactic is simply awesome (you are gonna score a lot of goals from throw-ins by the way). @Totalfootballfan congrats dude you just nailed it! Edited December 31, 2018 by Sekaser 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMExperiment Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Having great results with this tacti. I have 2 questions for @Totalfootballfan if you don't mind 1. What's the reasoning behind hard tackling? I follow your advice to set to "ease off tackles" when players get a yellow so I rarely get players sent off, but is there meant to be a benefit to hard tackling? 2. Do you change mentality or keep balanced? When/Why would you change it? Other than that tactic is working fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwccfc1987 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 On 31/12/2018 at 18:42, Sekaser said: After five seasons doing okay with the STORMCALLER V14, I struggled a bit last season so I decided to give the BATTLEMASTER V5 a try and... well I don't think too much need to be said, just have a look at the picture! And just some extra info: Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents I made sure to have a tailored squad, as you can see I was predicted to finish 5th so I had nothing really special. The tactic is simply awesome (you are gonna score a lot of goals from throw-ins by the way). @Totalfootballfan congrats dude you just nailed it! From experience, the throw ins generate countless sitters which players hit straight at the keeper. The rest of the efforts are long range which often leads to 30-40 shots a game, few goals and the opposition scoring from a corner or free kick. Rinse and repeat-glad this doesn't happen to all of us...also routinely hitting the woodwork 4-5 times a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
true_valiant Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Every goal I concede comes from the right hand side and often a long ball over the top. I'm guessing this has something to do with the inverted wing backs as they are very often out of position when the opposition breaks on me. Any idea how to combat this.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dzek Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) It's one of the best tactics for FM19 but against bigger teams i cant win and i conceded 3-5 goals. What i have to do? Edited January 2, 2019 by Theodoros Yiorkas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwccfc1987 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 5 hours ago, true_valiant said: Every goal I concede comes from the right hand side and often a long ball over the top. I'm guessing this has something to do with the inverted wing backs as they are very often out of position when the opposition breaks on me. Any idea how to combat this.? Try playing central defenders with high pace/acceleration Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duque Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) Hello everyone, Where could I find the links to all of TFFs tactics? @Totalfootballfan Thanks!!! Edited January 5, 2019 by duque Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamoritch Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Has anybody tried this tactic with lower leagues in England? Looking to try it with Shrewsbury Town in League 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMExperiment Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Jamoritch said: Has anybody tried this tactic with lower leagues in England? Looking to try it with Shrewsbury Town in League 1 I think it works in all divisions. Tbh this tactic is reliable but I wouldn't say it works miracles, it does rely on a bit of set piece abuse. Then again.. it's not like any tactic should be insta-win. If you want actual success then you need this tactic in combination with morale management and buying good players. But yes, I do think you can over achieve with this tactic with any team in any division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisHallUK Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 On 06/01/2019 at 10:48, Jamoritch said: Has anybody tried this tactic with lower leagues in England? Looking to try it with Shrewsbury Town in League 1 Currently in Vanerama League South, works wonders, just make sure you have quick central defenders, the full backs push up and move into the middle when you are near the edge of the opponent's box and long ball counter-attacks can burn you. Also, find a good set piece guy, makes all the difference in the lower leagues. Striker/AMC isn't a big deal, quick DCs, good dribbling ML/MR and a good set-piece man. Should be enough to get through the lower league, especially non-league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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