geomprikos Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) Ok Edited July 27, 2019 by geomprikos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 27, 2019 Author Share Posted July 27, 2019 I don't find the LTs work that well with non winger tactics, so I would use a 442 or 4132 set up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandana Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Hi knap, what's the best unplugged tactic for West Ham (underdog/mid table team)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 27, 2019 Author Share Posted July 27, 2019 There is very little test data for unplugged type tactics. I would try a 4132 /442/ or 4141 formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandana Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) knap, do you use tactical briefing, OP instructions or shouts? Edited July 27, 2019 by Bandana Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 27, 2019 Author Share Posted July 27, 2019 Either AM but no OIs or shouts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAECK Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 !!!!!!!!!!!!FM19.3.5BLUEMATTER433DMKnapP108ECCC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filer974 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 superb tactic with 3 strikers scoring goal goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 If you want goals from forwards 3 strikers work well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlo Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Hello Knap, are you willing to release an updated 4-3-1-2 like this one? Maybe with some different player roles? ---------------------- SK ----------------------- -- WB ------ BPD ------ BPD ------ WB -- ------ DLP ------ BWM ------ BBM -------- --------------------- AM ----------------------- -------------- PF -------- DLF ---------------- or something like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted September 29, 2019 Author Share Posted September 29, 2019 Is the original not working/ I only look at positions as roles are used to make a tactic work rather than player driven. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlo Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 hour ago, knap said: Is the original not working/ I only look at positions as roles are used to make a tactic work rather than player driven. I haven't played with that tactic recently, just like the formation. And I kinda have a squad right now that fits this set-up. But I find the midfield-roles CM-DLP-CM and two AF's kind of boring. But if you have some other combinations that might work with this formation, be my guest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted September 29, 2019 Author Share Posted September 29, 2019 With 2 CFs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 Tactic above updated for 19.3 set pieces. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FM19.3.6BLUEMATTER4312.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 Variation !!!!!!!!!!!!FM19.3.6BLUEMATTER4312KnapP102ECCC.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xandinho Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Good Job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pogrebnik Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 23 minutes ago, knap said: Variation !!!!!!!!!!!!FM19.3.6BLUEMATTER4312KnapP102ECCC.fmf 43.48 kB · 1 download hey, looks like attackers score here? definitly will try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 Based on 433 and the attackers score well with that formation despite not being best formation in FM 19. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 This combination may also work !FM19.3.6BLUEMATTER4312DLPBBMKnapPressP106FA.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlo Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 3 hours ago, knap said: This combination may also work !FM19.3.6BLUEMATTER4312DLPBBMKnapPressP106FA.fmf 43.7 kB · 29 downloads YES! Thank you. Gonna try this one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlo Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 You might be on to something with this tactic. First 15 matches with AC Milan: Spoiler Losses were against Barcelona (friendly) and Juventus (Serie A). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooders11 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 12 hours ago, Karlo said: You might be on to something with this tactic. First 15 matches with AC Milan: Reveal hidden contents Losses were against Barcelona (friendly) and Juventus (Serie A). Was this with the two pressing forwards tactic? I'm having mixed results with the two advanced forwards one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 PFs tend to be a more defensive option to AFs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlo Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 On 03/10/2019 at 10:15, gooders11 said: Was this with the two pressing forwards tactic? I'm having mixed results with the two advanced forwards one. Yes. Tactic is a bit shaky at the moment. Doesn't perform better than the 4132 sadly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertha BSC Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 I am using the 4132 to great effect with my latest Hertha BSC save, but wanted to ask how you manage the individual training for each position? Right now, for example, I am training the Defensive Wingers as "Wingers support", but I am not sure whether that is beneficial in the long run, given the lack of training for the defensive attributes of the Dfensive Winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 I seldom look at training but I would be inclined to train as winger attack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianfreem Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 В 01.10.2019 в 16:14, knap сказал: This combination may also work !FM19.3.6BLUEMATTER4312DLPBBMKnapPressP106FA.fmf 43 \u043a\u0411 · 232 downloads Not working with Crystal Palace and Brighton. 10 matches , 8 lose, 1 win and 1 draw. Maybe you have another tactics for 19.3.6? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 7, 2019 Author Share Posted October 7, 2019 I wold not use a narrow tactics for underdog teams. 4132 or 4141 tactics can win PL with Wolvers or Newcastle. The ME is still 19.3. .6 is just a reference to when tactic was set up I set this up which is loosely based on the Brighton tactic used against Spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianfreem Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) !!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSS.fmf !!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapCD4141P106ALLCUPSNOLOSS.fmf About this tactics you say? Or... Edited October 7, 2019 by brianfreem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 I would try those or any recommended for underdogs from list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianfreem Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 13 минут назад, knap сказал: I would try those or any recommended for underdogs from list. thx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergiolagartija Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) Hey knap! sorry if this has been already asked but do we have to set the takers for set pieces? And also a question about your 442-110ecc. I have a regen who's right footed and plays as a left midfielder. Do you think he´ll fit in this tactic or is it more suitable for natural wingers? he has "cut inside" as ppm. Thanks!! Edited October 8, 2019 by sergiolagartija Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 Positions takers are set up - players I do not set up. Usually wherever they play best - I end to try players on both wings but I would not change a role for a player. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianfreem Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 13 часов назад, knap сказал: I wold not use a narrow tactics for underdog teams. 4132 or 4141 tactics can win PL with Wolvers or Newcastle. The ME is still 19.3. .6 is just a reference to when tactic was set up I set this up which is loosely based on the Brighton tactic used against Spurs. Hello knap! Can you give me please link this tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 Just an experiment not sure it would actually work for underdogs as Spurs were terrible on the day. !!!!!!!!!19.3.6BRIGHTONROCK4132PFDMIWSPKnapP108FACC.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianfreem Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Our whole life is an experiment, you won’t try, you won’t know) thank you very much. I will play 15-20 games, I will write! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enders357 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) On 30/09/2019 at 11:48, knap said: Tactic above updated for 19.3 set pieces. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FM19.3.6BLUEMATTER4312.fmf 43.53 kB · 233 downloads On 29/09/2019 at 15:49, knap said: With 2 CFs Hey @knap What's the thinking behind the much lower tempo in this 4-3-1-2? Were you trying to mimic a particular side here? Edited October 19, 2019 by enders357 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 19, 2019 Author Share Posted October 19, 2019 I am not sure I can correlate anything in FM to real football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enders357 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) @knap Do you alter these at all situationally, or are your tests simply every game with this tactic for the full 90? Edited October 21, 2019 by enders357 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 Mostly the full 90 mins. With a red card I may use a SUS Tactic. It may be useful to consider a control tactic if well ahead but can have a downside of letting AI back into game. The lng term testing will just be tactic for 90 mins no matter what happens, so in theory game management should make the tactic more effective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussex Hammer Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) On 19/10/2019 at 22:46, knap said: I am not sure I can correlate anything in FM to real football Hey Knap, I know what you mean, I personally think some areas (not all) of the ME are a mess especially striker movement and the awful crossing situation where it just hits a defenders knees bounces to an opposition player and off they go and score. I find it hard to believe there "isn't a problem" like some suggest, I've tried various set up's and roles and it happens far too much. In fact I would prefer the cross happened but got headed away by a defender at least that's realistic,,,,, However, I think I "might" have had a breakthrough. Since I bought FM19 I have been trying to play a 4411 because it suits the players I have. Early doors it was fine, ok I had far too many instructions but I was scoring a lot of goals and ended up with 97 one season. However I conceded a lot as well but as long as you are winning who cares!! With each patch though it became less effective and lord only knows what happened last week but the goals dried up totally. I tried everything - role changes, mentality, no PI's at all, nothing worked until I made a few changes to my tactic as an experiment. 1. Swapped my PF S to a PF A and swapped my AM A to an AM S. This I had tried before with no luck, but with - 2. Changed from Attacking to Positive 3. Switched defensive width to standard to try and stop crosses coming in. 4. The thing that I am sure has made a difference is I changed from "Counter Press/Counter" to "REGROUP/Counter I went and won the League Cup Final v Man United then have beaten Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool the leaders with a draw to Bournemouth away. Not sure how it will do long term especially away at the "big" clubs as nothing seems to work then but it was only the 4-0 win against Arsenal I haven't had more possession albeit they are small margins. I am going to also experiment by taking hard tackling off and try easy (update - didn't work as well) as I was thinking about it and with hard tackling I suspect a player could end up on his backside and won't benefit defending if that's the case so I will see how staying on feet does but if you want try that change from Counter press to REGROUP and see how things go,. My attack has improved and I don't get hit by as many direct balls over the top. Of course it could just be a typical FM style confidence rise after winning the League Cup and another barren spell could be approaching!!!! Edited October 22, 2019 by Sussex Hammer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 I can win PL with WH using a more defensive tactic like Sicilian 4222, rather than changing to a more defensive option.. I would say Regroup is a slightly weaker option as a PnP. Generally all fwds have been on attack in FM 19. If setting up a more specific control (reduce intensity) defensive or SUS tactic then regroup and lower mentality are options. Not sure if Optimusprimal covers this in "mentality matters" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 Unplugged Libero 343 !!!!!!!!FM19.3.6PILGRIMAGEUNPLUGGEDKnap343VOLANTLIBEROEP101CC.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor76 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Excuse me @Knap, what means Unplugged for this tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 No Long throws Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 Unplugged 343 !!!!!!!!FM19.3.6PILGRIMAGEUNPLUGGEDKnap343P104CC.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 Unplugged 4231 !!!!!!!!!!!FM19.3.6BEOWULF4231UNPLUGGEDKnapP103FA.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksmithlfc1234 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, knap said: Unplugged 343 !!!!!!!!FM19.3.6PILGRIMAGEUNPLUGGEDKnap343P104CC.fmf 43.63 kB · 0 downloads can we see any results and table please ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 The pts cups are in tactic name, 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 FM 20 using FM 19 Unplugged 4231 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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