Jongii Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 11 hours ago, knap said: FM 20 Tactics For the second season at Bilbao, I'll try the updated 4141 and see how I go. I have youngsters that may suit the 442 better in due course. But not for a few seasons! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1RTY DOODLE Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Not sure if already been asked but what traits do you look at teaching players @knap? It changes depending on formation I understand. I like to think I understand what players should have what traits but I was curious to your answer. What would you give the Mezzalas in the 4 1 4 1 as an example? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 Attacking Movement PPMs or traits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 Game settings? I use FMT with just PL to speed tests. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiinted Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I am sorry.....I am completely lost in this thread. Can someone suggest the best tactic to use on the latest FM20 patch? Ideally a tactic that has 4 at the back. Thanks in advance. I am Cardiff City by the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 FM 20 Tactics 442 Sympathy for the Devil FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipLeipzig.fmf44.88 kB · 468 downloads 4132 FM20WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSFM20P102ECCC.fmf45.22 kB · 336 downloads 4141 FM20.1WULF4141SPKnapP106ECCCKINGP107_SOLOUNAMIGOP104KINGP104FM20P99ECFAATTACKP103.fmf45.19 kB · 480 downloads 442 FM20WULF442PFPWMKnapP110ECCCFM20P102ECCC.fmf44.85 kB · 351 downloads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) There is a list for FM 19 Tactics and FM 20 Tactics. FM 20 List is on previous page as now links are not being copied. Edited November 21, 2019 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb1403 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) On 20/11/2019 at 10:43, jmb1403 said: I am currently testing the below with Hereford in my 4th season (Promoted twice) and starting life in the football league. Played 9 friendlies and only conceded 2 goals, scoring quite a few Update: Edited November 21, 2019 by jmb1403 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 Looks good and top of goal scores list including your AMC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Knap is sympathy for the devil the main tactic you recommend right now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiinted Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 26 minutes ago, knap said: There is a list for FM 19 Tactics and FM 20 Tactics. FM 20 List is on previous page as now links are not being copied. Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb1403 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, knap said: Looks good and top of goal scores list including your AMC. The early season slump ended when I took the assistant manager off oppostion instructions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 I always prevent AM from handling OIs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb1403 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, knap said: I always prevent AM from handling OIs Yeah I usually stop them handling them too, I just forgot to do it this time I'll keep you updated with any other developments Edited November 21, 2019 by jmb1403 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 I know someone asked for a 451. Anyway I have a decent 451 available for testing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 33 minutes ago, knap said: I always prevent AM from handling OIs Do you tend to set any OIs each game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 I used OIs very briefly in FM 16 on 4231 tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I've never really used them, so not sure how much of an impact they have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FortunaSC Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 54 minutes ago, jmb1403 said: The early season slump ended when I took the assistant manager off oppostion instructions what tactic is this? i can try the 451, @knap? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver7 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 26 minutes ago, knap said: I know someone asked for a 451. Anyway I have a decent 451 available for testing. I'm having great results with 442 sympathy for the devil but I don't mind testing it out. I play FMT and I do seasons pretty fast. Send me the info, I can do it in any team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 There used to be a tactic maker called THE BETTER HALF who would say when and why to use them, but you need to set them up for each opponent and change them if the AI change tactics. You will find some tactics that just use blanket OIs tight mark close down hard tackle every player. You can use OIs for a high press. I found in FM18 that tactics work better without them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb1403 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, FortunaSC said: what tactic is this? i can try the 451, @knap? It's FM20PILGRIMAGE41311leftbKnapKonP52 I don't have the link unfortunately Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasosbin Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, jmb1403 said: It's FM20PILGRIMAGE41311leftbKnapKonP52 I don't have the link unfortunately can you upload it ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 FM20 PILGRIMAGE41311 leftbKnapKonP52.fmf 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, knap said: There used to be a tactic maker called THE BETTER HALF who would say when and why to use them, but you need to set them up for each opponent and change them if the AI change tactics. You will find some tactics that just use blanket OIs tight mark close down hard tackle every player. You can use OIs for a high press. I found in FM18 that tactics work better without them. I'll see how it goes without them. Don't want to spend months getting through each season lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skog Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, jmb1403 said: Update: This looks great, thanks for the updates. I think it'll suit my current side perfectly... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaniolo Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) Hi knap, did you test any tactics like 4321 with 2 IF/IW on AMR/AML position for fm2020 It's a bit difficult to find wingers who can play WM/ML/MR Edited November 21, 2019 by Zaniolo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migalim Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, jmb1403 said: Update: Do you use left foot on the left side and right foot on the right side for the wingers? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb1403 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Just now, Migalim said: Do you use left foot on the left side and right foot on the right side for the wingers? Thanks I'm not even sure to be honest, I just pick the positions regardless of what foot they use Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soviet Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 36 minutes ago, jmb1403 said: I'm not even sure to be honest, I just pick the positions regardless of what foot they use Do you keep it on attacking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb1403 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Just now, Soviet said: Do you keep it on attacking? Yes. I don't change anything 😊 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 They only need to be able to play wide Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordy9320 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 @knapdo you holiday the year on FMT to test the tactics? Or instant result every match? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 With a top team you can do either, but it is not an accurate method. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordy9320 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 minute ago, knap said: With a top team you can do either, but it is not an accurate method. Which isn't accurate? Both? Not trying to be a bother mate, just trying to get the exact same setup as you to better test tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, damocles said: Not trying to be a bother mate, just trying to get the exact same setup as you to better test tactics. Best to use instant with no match plan. You would think that playing the games would give you better results as you can be muh more hands on, but in some ways it actually works the other way around, and instant will give you better results. Cant explain why though Holiday not so good, as this gives ass man opportunity to change more during game. Like positions and tactics. I usually holiday til next match, use instant, and then holiday til next... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 Holiday is not as accurate as Instant Result; Last year I run 10 Holiday Seasons and results were probably from 95Pts to 110pts, so even with a top team there is a wide margin of error. Any tactic that does not drop many points is likely to be better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordy9320 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, knap said: Holiday is not as accurate as Instant Result; Last year I run 10 Holiday Seasons and results were probably from 95Pts to 110pts, so even with a top team there is a wide margin of error. Any tactic that does not drop many points is likely to be better. I was thinking holiday to get a general idea of good or bad then instant result once I've got something that's generally working. That sound about right? I'm pretty determined to get a 433 narrow working properly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 If you are setting up a tactic then it is best to use Observer role. Just set the tactic up and see how it plays out just making subs IF necessary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 Probably just top team but tested in FM 20 !!!!!!!!!!FM19.3.5BEOWULF424KnapUmpluggedP101FM20MUP99.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordy9320 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 23 minutes ago, knap said: Probably just top team but tested in FM 20 !!!!!!!!!!FM19.3.5BEOWULF424KnapUmpluggedP101FM20MUP99.fmf 44.66 kB · 27 downloads Holiday'ed it on FMT for Sheff Wed and sacked in November. Same with Liverpool and unbeaten in December. Looks good so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dailan Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 On 20/11/2019 at 17:34, Spikester said: Guy from FMBase has tweaked one of Knap’s 442 tactics, he got 144 goals scored in league with Man UTD! That’s pretty wild: https://fm-base.co.uk/threads/442-knap-tweak.381527/#post-3226500 Do you have the tactic by any chance since fm-base is down...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 Holiday can only really be used with top teams, unless you start using FMRTE or similar to control variables. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2paff Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dailan said: Do you have the tactic by any chance since fm-base is down...? i think it's this one. didn t work on my side, defensively not solid FM20 Tweaked FMS!!!!!!!19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF9P103)KnapP106ALLCUPSKINGP109.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 I would not recommend that tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dailan Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, 2paff said: i think it's this one. didn t work on my side, defensively not solid FM20 Tweaked FMS!!!!!!!19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF9P103)KnapP106ALLCUPSKINGP109.fmf 44.96 kB · 1 download No that is not the tactic what i am talking about... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
liamwpk Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, Dailan said: Do you have the tactic by any chance since fm-base is down...? Was posted on the fm base thread here. It's the "Eirik" titled one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2paff Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, liamwpk said: Was posted on the fm base thread here. It's the "Eirik" titled one. Eirik.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filer974 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Hello Knap how are you ? I want a 433 with 3 striker please and 1 MD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 @knap best underdog tactic please ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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