Knap fan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 sicilian442, beowulf442 and wulf 4132, may I ask you how would you rank these three tactics? And which one would you use for home and also for away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 P107 Home 4132 Away Sicilian difficult Away. However, none of the independent tests show CA 120, Away details which would a good way to identify best Away tactic. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuper Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 to Knap - have you tried any 4312 narrow formation on this FM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 I doubt it as so far FM 20 is a re run of FM 19 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 Sending off in 1st minute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goobie Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, knap said: Sending off in 1st minute FM20.2SICILIAN442DLKnapP101ALLCUPS ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 Moved on now to another tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) Beowulf P107 going well with Man U; Annoyingly the only defeat in this run came thanks to a 5th minute sending off. The draw against Man City was a last kick equaliser for them and the West Ham draw was thrown away from a 2-0 lead and cruising. Edited December 9, 2019 by Spike 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filrom Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Spike said: Beowulf P107 хорошо сочетается с Man U; Досадно, что единственное поражение в этом заезде произошло благодаря 5-й минуте отправки. I have 10 games with an outsider - 9 wins, 1 loss. Super tactics! Edited December 9, 2019 by Filrom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 How has this ended 0-0? How have we had 31 shots, hit the woodwork 4 times, but only 1 CCC? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivoensousa Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 41 minutes ago, Spike said: How has this ended 0-0? How have we had 31 shots, hit the woodwork 4 times, but only 1 CCC? Super GK? 😂😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anguskhan Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 the update has done something to the 442 i was winning away with ease now i had over 120 shots in 4 games and lost them all while playing away any one else had this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 @knapIs holidaying with "use current match tactic" a valid way of testing a tactic? or do you get better performance when watching the game? (and is there difference in holidaying with full vs holidaying in touch) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VP. Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 9 hours ago, Ivoensousa said: Super GK? 😂😂😂 They'll all be from distance, the stats are not always a good example to use. Seems like your players are shooting from anywhere rather than look for a pass that may create a CCC. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsmaff Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 43 minutes ago, DavyDepuydt1 said: @knapIs holidaying with "use current match tactic" a valid way of testing a tactic? or do you get better performance when watching the game? (and is there difference in holidaying with full vs holidaying in touch) You will get an idea with a holiday game of how well a tactic works. However you will get better results if you manage the games, as you are able to make changes through the game better than AI. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 The testing sites control variables to give a more accurate test, which is not available for a normal save. I do not really test tactics but set them up and look for potential. When you look at the 10 season holiday tests I did in FM 19 you can see , even with a top club,there is a large variation between seasons. The test sites therefore run the test 2 or 3 times which is up to 270 games to try and eliminate this variance. There are no injuries in the tests wheras in a normal save Spurs without Kane for 6 mths is likely to under perform, therefore if you holiday with thin squads or weak squads results are likely to be unpredictable. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
14862016 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 16 hours ago, knap said: Sicilian 442 Dropped DL Strikers scoring FM20.2SICILIAN442DLKnapP101ALLCUPS.fmf 45.11 kB · 218 downloads 16 hours ago, knap said: Sicilian 442 Dropped DL Strikers scoring FM20.2SICILIAN442DLKnapP101ALLCUPS.fmf 45.11 kB · 218 downloads Good tac, thank you. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filer974 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Hi knap, I know you're very busy and everyone is asking for tactics but when you can do a 4231 please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 There is a 4231 on list Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filer974 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 OK. I try it. Thank you knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stian Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Any changes in ME after the latest update? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolly76 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, stian said: Any changes in ME after the latest update? No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) Just a heads up, I'm very successful in getting good and realistic results (so no 7-3 but more 3-1 / 2-0) with the 442-Leipzig by changing the mentality to Positive and bringing LOE and DL down a notch. (on latest patch in full fat) Holidayed a season with City and won the league, and holidayed a season with worst team in belgian third division and ended 3th AF striker scoring a lot, a lot of players in the top average rating list, was second in clean sheets, ... Edited December 10, 2019 by DavyDepuydt1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matsk89 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 @DavyDepuydt1 vol2 or the older version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 26 minutes ago, matsk89 said: @DavyDepuydt1 vol2 or the older version The older one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 You can post some screenshots and tactic, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knas Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) What's the best tactic for PSV Eindhoven ( FM 20 ) currently in season 19/20, I've been trying the 4231WULF out but it's isn't working that good i'm struggling to score chances, and if i win a game it's only 1/2 goals difference ?http://prntscr.com/q8xcblhttp://prntscr.com/q8xcpz Edited December 10, 2019 by knas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) A few test results puts the order as follows WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112) P106 SYMPATHY 4222 TEQUILA SUNRISE BEOWULF 442 P107 SICILIAN 4222 P101 SYMPATHY 442 SYMPATHY 4222 VOL 2 NORTHERN SOUL 5-3-2 SICILIAN 4222 P98 ARGUS 352 BLUE MATTER 433 DM 451 BLUE MATTER 433 4231 WULF 424 Edited December 10, 2019 by knap 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, knap said: A few test results puts the order as follows WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112) P106 SYMPATHY 4222 FM base or FM arena? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 A combination of both and not all tactics are tested. MR L should also be on line soon as well 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamieac Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, knap said: A few test results puts the order as follows WULF 4132 (FM 19 P112) P106 SYMPATHY 4222 TEQUILA SUNRISE BEOWULF 442 P107 SICILIAN 4222 P101 SYMPATHY 442 SYMPATHY 4222 VOL 2 NORTHERN SOUL 5-3-2 SICILIAN 4222 P98 ARGUS 352 BLUE MATTER 433 DM BLUE MATTER 433 4231 WULF 424 Just to clarify, these have all been tested on 20.2? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 All 20.2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knas Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 TEQUILA SUNRISE Amazing tactic, won all my games with the tactic and still unbeaten. Thank you !http://prntscr.com/q90jy4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmaster5000 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, knas said: TEQUILA SUNRISE Amazing tactic, won all my games with the tactic and still unbeaten. Thank you !http://prntscr.com/q90jy4 which team are u playing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knas Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 PSV Eindhoven Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scofib Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 what's the best tactic for a mid class team like Newcastle? also for a team like man city Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 Best top dog tactics would be 442 p107 or 4132 P106 best sub top Sympathy or Tequila best underdog Argus 352. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warszawa Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 6 hours ago, DavyDepuydt1 said: Just a heads up, I'm very successful in getting good and realistic results (so no 7-3 but more 3-1 / 2-0) with the 442-Leipzig by changing the mentality to Positive and bringing LOE and DL down a notch. (on latest patch in full fat) Holidayed a season with City and won the league, and holidayed a season with worst team in belgian third division and ended 3th AF striker scoring a lot, a lot of players in the top average rating list, was second in clean sheets, ... i like that little tweaks... love that 1-0, 2-0 results, much more than 5-3 or 4-2 FM20SympathyforthedevilKnapAndDavy CONTROL lowDL LOE.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zdravec2010 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 appropriate tactic for Aston Villa I'm in a stalemate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 Argus 352 is the tested best underdog tactic, but Sympathy or Tequila may be worth trying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 All tactics in this thread seem to work relatively well. The only trouble i have is consistency using any formation with a AML, AMC, AMR .They always seem to die off after 5-8 games, four game losing streak then back on the winning run. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre62 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 @White Europe any advice for home or away games with your tweak tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dersturmer Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Instant Result. White Europe tweak, very cool! After 3 draw in a row i began to use Sicilian Defence home (DL and LOE set from very high to high) and White Europe away. Think this is the most optimal option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Screenshots of my Simulation save in full fat 20.2 with city. Holidayed the season, so didn't switch to SUS to get a result nor did I switch to more attacking when drawing/losing (so when playing yourself you'll get even better results) Tactic: 442 Sympathy Leipzig (the original one, not V2)Tweaks: Positive Mentality, Brought LOE & DL to 'higher' (one notch down) and removed all Tackle harder PI (but kept 'get stuck in' TI) Very happy with the results, almost no crazy scores (7-3 and such), good scoring record (2nd in league) and good conceding record (best in league). Striker is scoring most goals, keeper is joint second in clean sheets, have quite a few players ranked high in the average rating ranking and Aguero won FIFA player of the year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm86 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 I know I've asked before but I struggle to get any sort of consistency playing with 4-1-2-3 or 4-2-3-1 or any variation of a single striker with 2 IF's. Sorry to ask again but is anyone having any decent success with one of these types of tactics with decent teams (Ajax, Rangers, Liverpool) and getting them to work realistically with the striker/IF scoring most goals? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bothan Spy Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, hm86 said: I know I've asked before but I struggle to get any sort of consistency playing with 4-1-2-3 or 4-2-3-1 or any variation of a single striker with 2 IF's. Sorry to ask again but is anyone having any decent success with one of these types of tactics with decent teams (Ajax, Rangers, Liverpool) and getting them to work realistically with the striker/IF scoring most goals? Yeah I've been persevering with 4231 and the opposition still seem to be creating a lot of chances and getting in past my defence. I've lowered the DL slightly in the hope of remedying it. Worked in the next match but too early to tell. 4231 still needs tweaking though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 I'm sure you will get better results using say Sympathy 442 and just use the players you want in that formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filer974 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Yes I found how to make this 4231 effective. I made readjustments of and DL and LOE and I put positive mentality. Since all is well for united. It's very solid defensively 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comandante Bilic Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 which one is the most efficient for the latest version of FMT on PC, 20.1.4 imo (for a top team) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 First 20.1 tactic on list 4132 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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