andre62 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 what advice for home tactic and away tactic please? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, optimusprimal82 said: that meets every one of these criteria Cheers. The reason I was asking was because recently I had better ratings from using offensive players especially in the Sicillian, than the DMC types, so I`m considering trying AM players just for fun to test a bit. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotPennysBoat Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 A few days ago, I posted an issue about shots vs shots on target ratio, and possession in home games. It's still perplexing, because I still run into those same issues on the affected saves. However, I decided to start an Ajax save and give BeowulfP107 a shot. Now, I know Ajax isn't exactly the most difficult of teams to start with, but damn! A 4-1 demolition of PSV, with a whopping 10 CCC's, which is the highest I've ever had in a game, is definitely a success. It's only the first game, so still early days. Suffice is to say, I might just have found love for FM again. Cheers for chucking out tactics like it was nothing, Knap. You've saved me on FM for years now hah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crronaldo Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, optimusprimal82 said: @Rober82 you’re unlikely to find a player that meets every one of these criteria but I use this as a general ‘rule of thumb’ when buying per position. Obviously depending on the role I might weight more towards passing/decisions (if looking for a creative) or positioning/heading (for defensive), but as Knap suggests (& we’re often on the same page with this sort of stuff!), these positions are usually quite versatile so a good attribute spread is very helpful (and let’s you adapt their role easily in different phases of the game); Can you share this spreadsheet! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Mr L is up and running. Two tactics tested already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmkdfw Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 6 hours ago, SavetroN said: My first match beowulf 107 Vedat Muriqi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdubsnz Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 First game Beowulf 107! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdubsnz Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 22 minutes ago, jdubsnz said: First game Beowulf 107! Second game and switched to Argus at half time as was 3-0 down. Wasn't expecting much from this game (only second season Arsenal) but we hit the post 3 times so could have been different Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 4231 did well!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpdx Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 30 dakika önce, knap dedi: 4231 iyi yaptı !!! how so? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 sarcasm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 Star Wars today. If anybody wants to try the beta 4231 or 4411 I will post them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 What results did you get with the 4411? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpdx Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, knap said: Bugün Yıldız Savaşları. Birisi beta 4231 veya 4411'i denemek isterse bunları gönderirim. I would like to try Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christrott79 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, knap said: Star Wars today. If anybody wants to try the beta 4231 or 4411 I will post them. Would love to have a look at the 4231! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) FM20.2.3BEOWULF4411P97.fmf Edited December 23, 2019 by knap 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, knap said: FM20.2.3BEOWULF4411P97.fmf 44.81 kB · 0 downloads Looks good, did you get decent defence with it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 FM20.2.3BEOWULF4231KnapP51.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAxe Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 11 hours ago, optimusprimal82 said: I think we've all likely felt this way over the years about one version or another (FM07 was my own individual nadir - nearly broke my forehead from hitting it off the screen!) and I know that when you get to that low of an ebb, people suggesting things can be even more frustrating (because it feels like you've tried everything) but there's a fair few people (myself and Knap two quick easy examples) happy to try and help you get the fun back into your game without any condescension/lectures about it being 'your tactics'? Is there a bit in particular that's beating you - can see you're struggling but is it 'in-game/mid-match' you're struggling or is it more off the field in terms of squad building/training? Or does it all suck and you know the problem is somewhere and you're unsure where to turn/what to do? Squad training and building is a breeze. I'm identifying weaknesses, filling the gaps, bringing in talent... and giving them games so that they gel. I managed to squeeze 16 friendlies in for Leipzig (won 14, lost 2), but as soon as the season starts its yellows and reds all over the show and like they've never met each other. My Wednesday team, after I got them promoted, struggled in mid-table for four years. Now I'm not expecting to turn them into Liverpool or Man City, but there was next to no progress. Even after building up a healthy transfer kitty and buying better quality players, the results were still very hit and miss. A Carabao Cup game against Crewe - played a strong side, dominated the match, 30 shots, 15 on target - Crewe had 0 shots and won on pens. We've all had bad beats over the years but no matter how strong my side is or how weak the opponents are, it's still a coin toss whether I get any kind of result. I broke the Prem season record for discipline in January! Full-backs will get booked every game. Opposing goalkeepers with ratings of 6.5 or worse will suddenly turn into world beaters against me. I usually have to average 5/6 shots on target to score and then their donkey CD will knock a 70 yard pass into space for a 93rd minute winner. I know I sound bitter and there probably is a solution or two out there, but I'm really getting to the point where it's hard to care any more. It's just not enjoyable to play because EVERY match contains some unrealistic nonsense. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 These are my results using a mix of both Stargazing and Sicilian, I know nothing was changed since the latest update buy last lot of results were not as good ever since the update: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammalc Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I'm using Sicilian since yesterday and am now consolidated around 5th/6th in Prem playing as Derby County . There are some real freak results still mind , Beating Chelsea who were 3rd 5-1 but losing 2-1 to Mansfield in the Cup . I think we all strive for consistency but the game is designed to sack you after smallish bad runs i feel so planning for the furure by signing youngsters as my board want impractical Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdubsnz Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, DarkAxe said: Squad training and building is a breeze. I'm identifying weaknesses, filling the gaps, bringing in talent... and giving them games so that they gel. I managed to squeeze 16 friendlies in for Leipzig (won 14, lost 2), but as soon as the season starts its yellows and reds all over the show and like they've never met each other. My Wednesday team, after I got them promoted, struggled in mid-table for four years. Now I'm not expecting to turn them into Liverpool or Man City, but there was next to no progress. Even after building up a healthy transfer kitty and buying better quality players, the results were still very hit and miss. A Carabao Cup game against Crewe - played a strong side, dominated the match, 30 shots, 15 on target - Crewe had 0 shots and won on pens. We've all had bad beats over the years but no matter how strong my side is or how weak the opponents are, it's still a coin toss whether I get any kind of result. I broke the Prem season record for discipline in January! Full-backs will get booked every game. Opposing goalkeepers with ratings of 6.5 or worse will suddenly turn into world beaters against me. I usually have to average 5/6 shots on target to score and then their donkey CD will knock a 70 yard pass into space for a 93rd minute winner. I know I sound bitter and there probably is a solution or two out there, but I'm really getting to the point where it's hard to care any more. It's just not enjoyable to play because EVERY match contains some unrealistic nonsense. this has been my experience so far of FM20. Pretty joyless. Its a game, its supposed to be fun! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 I've asked if FM Base can check a few tactics post update and compare results pre and post update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 If having problems in general getting results check out Mentality Matters by Optimus. This may give you more control over results. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginola1 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Hi @knap you have a lot of tactics on page 1, but could you please attach a picture for each tactic (maybe you do you have made it) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwilcox Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, ginola1 said: Hi @knap you have a lot of tactics on page 1, but could you please attach a picture for each tactic (maybe you do you have made it) Seriously not asking for a lot there.....!! LOL 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginola1 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 il y a 15 minutes, cwilcox a dit : Seriously not asking for a lot there.....!! LOL Seriously When you read the first page do you understand on which tactic FM20 do you start ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammalc Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 ginola , scroll up a page or 2 and knap put a revised list Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlo Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Are there going to be screenshots added at the testing results @ https://mrltactics.com/ ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClairvoyanT Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 6 dakika önce, Karlo said: Are there going to be screenshots added at the testing results @ https://mrltactics.com/ ? this site only test knaps tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theradon Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ClairvoyanT said: this site only test knaps tactics? No. It just came back online so it needs time I guess. Edited December 23, 2019 by Theradon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 The oxford tactic tested well! I might have to give that a go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crew2 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Spikester said: These are my results using a mix of both Stargazing and Sicilian, I know nothing was changed since the latest update buy last lot of results were not as good ever since the update: @Spikester This the 4231 stargazing or 442 Spike? If it's the 4231 how did your attacking players do goal wise i.e. the two winger, striker and amc? Edited December 23, 2019 by crew2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crew2 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I'm thinking about trying Oxford with it being a Christmas Tree and it seems to be the highest rated by Mr L too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, crew2 said: @Spikester This the 4231 stargazing or 442 Spike? If it's the 4231 how did your attacking players do goal wise i.e. the two winger, striker and amc? It’s the 442 version buddy. I don’t think 4231 works well, but it seems like everyone wants a good 4231. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crew2 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Spikester said: It’s the 442 version buddy. I don’t think 4231 works well, but it seems like everyone wants a good 4231. Thanks pal. Ye me too. The problem with 442s or 4222s with dms is I feel life a lot of the best players in many squads need to be dropped or put into a position where they can't do as well as they do in real life in as you say a 4231. I'm just looking for a team that suits the Oxford tactic as I prefr to make no signings in the first window. Everton seem suited but I'd rather test with a sub top/top team (no offence to Everton) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rober82 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) Surpising result with the 352 better than the Sicillian.. Edited December 23, 2019 by Rober82 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par1s Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) I have tweak a 442 knap’s tactic into 4231 for the latest patch. Just now I’m running a holiday test with BVB. On my 3rd season with FC Barcelona the same tactic running amazing. Edited December 23, 2019 by Par1s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychedelicbeast Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, Par1s said: I have tweak a 442 knap’s tactic into 4231 for the latest patch. Just now I’m running a holiday test with BVB. On my 3rd season with FC Barcelona the same tactic running amazing. Awesome results! Can you share the tweaked tactic? Have you tested it with any lower rep teams? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par1s Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 If @knap agree I will share it. No I have no test it with other team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClairvoyanT Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 saat önce, Par1s said: If @knap agree I will share it. No I have no test it with other team. Are you gonna share your tweak? I really need something works. Every tactic i have tried failed after 5 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny648 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, ClairvoyanT said: Are you gonna share your tweak? I really need something works. Every tactic i have tried failed after 5 games. Check this thread out mate 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par1s Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I have no objection to share my tweak but I need the approve from @knap. Be patient until Knap gives his approval. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 Posting the tweak version will be fine, and thank you for asking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomer Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 anybody know of any great tactic for the latest patch that will also get my strikers score too and win me games? ive been struggling with lille so far drawing and losing too much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 There is a restriction on the number of screenshots that can be posted in OP. I post screenshots when I post a new tactic, and very easy just to download and have a look these days, rather than mediafire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james-99 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Par1s said: I have tweak a 442 knap’s tactic into 4231 for the latest patch. Just now I’m running a holiday test with BVB. On my 3rd season with FC Barcelona the same tactic running amazing. sorry quick one off topic. what skin are you using? looks great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christrott79 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Par1s said: I have no objection to share my tweak but I need the approve from @knap. Be patient until Knap gives his approval. Can you put up screenshot of formation and roles? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par1s Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Guys I will post the tactic and some screenshots on about 20-30 minutes cause I’m out of my laptop now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavetroN Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Par1s said: Guys I will post the tactic and some screenshots on about 20-30 minutes cause I’m out of my laptop now. thanks mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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