knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 FM 20.2.4 !FM20.2.4SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipP103FACC.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mwandila Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I need a 4-4-2 to my FC copenhagen team, which one Is the best and what about OI an TT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RasmusBolin Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Mwandila said: I need a 4-4-2 to my FC copenhagen team, which one Is the best and what about OI an TT https://www.footballmanagerstory.com/best-fm-2020-tactics-knaps-unbeaten-beowulf-4-4-2/ Im using this with FC Copenhagen. I have only change the tackling to "stay on feet". (Because a lot of yellow cards) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deggiall Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, knap said: @Deggial Still one of my favourite tactics Mine too. I cant remember clearly but I think this my 8th season or maybe more I am using it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksmithlfc1234 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 smashing it with blue matter 433 on new patch so far , But to be fair i am Liverpool . just beat genk 9-2 in champs league was 5 nil up after 17 mins , Mane got 9 minute hat trick LOOL 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mwandila Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, RasmusBolin said: https://www.footballmanagerstory.com/best-fm-2020-tactics-knaps-unbeaten-beowulf-4-4-2/ Im using this with FC Copenhagen. I have only change the tackling to "stay on feet". (Because a lot of yellow cards) in the new version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RasmusBolin Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Just now, Mwandila said: in the new version? Yes and I have used it for the last 7 games and have scored 24 goals and only conceeded 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mwandila Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, RasmusBolin said: Yes and I have used it for the last 7 games and have scored 24 goals and only conceeded 1. okay will try it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFly92 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, marksmithlfc1234 said: smashing it with blue matter 433 on new patch so far , But to be fair i am Liverpool . just beat genk 9-2 in champs league was 5 nil up after 17 mins , Mane got 9 minute hat trick LOOL which version mate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughfr4nc15 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) @knap In your opinion, what's your best tactic at the moment? Sicilian 4222? I'm gonna start a game with FC Porto, first game I'm starting this FM. Edited February 5, 2020 by hughfr4nc15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 @hughfr4nc15 The best tested tactic in the Beta was Sympathy Leipzig, tested over 60 games with MU. The tactic uses 2 Vols which may not suit some squads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 @sverige91 Corners throw ins still same as before. You can play them either way round, but it is still a good idea to try different options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughfr4nc15 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Thank you @knap. Would you please share the download link? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 FM 20.2 Tactics (excludes Beta tactics) TACTIC LINKS AND TACTIC RANKINGS FROM THE INDEPEDENT TESTS (MR L & FM BASE) ARE NOW ON GOOGLE DOCS LINK BELOW http://bit.ly/knaptactics Because I test with top, the pts total in tactic name will give an idea of what is best for top club, Top Clubs should be able to use all of the tactics. Top Club say 1-4 in League (Lpool MC etc) Sub Top 5-10 in League Sub Mid 11-15 Underdog the rest Can also use Top and Sub Top a Home Tactic Underdog Away or Top Favourite Sub Top Evens Underdog if Underdog MENTALITY MATTERS GUIDE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 @hughfr4nc15 The tactics links are in google docs and it is the Sympathy Leipzig tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 TEQUILA SUNRISE in FMT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughfr4nc15 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, knap said: @hughfr4nc15 The tactics links are in google docs and it is the Sympathy Leipzig tactic. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sverige91 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, knap said: @sverige91 Corners throw ins still same as before. You can play them either way round, but it is still a good idea to try different options. Sorry thats the things, i dont know, i tried searching but cant see. Can you please tell again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 @sverige91 Takers are set up by position rather than a named player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dersturmer Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Beowulf p 107 20.2 works very well but in away against strong team not good. I found that 4-1-4-1 just breaks everyone. The results are very similar to 19.3.6, maybe worth a little tweaking play in defense. FM205WULF4141SPKnapP101ECFACC.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sverige91 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 3 hours ago, knap said: @sverige91 Takers are set up by position rather than a named player Haha Which are those positions then? 😂😂 Right now i am Everton and Baines takes every corner and this makes me vulnerable to counters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OllyP Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 9 hours ago, marksmithlfc1234 said: smashing it with blue matter 433 on new patch so far , But to be fair i am Liverpool . just beat genk 9-2 in champs league was 5 nil up after 17 mins , Mane got 9 minute hat trick LOOL I love this formation too but don’t you find you concede a lot of goals in big games away from home? Do you make any changes for these matches? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 @sverige91 Make your LB taker on both sides or come short player on both sides. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 @OllyP Try using a SUS Tactic which is covered in mentalit matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel1981 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 i play LL with oxford city best tactics for home and away knap? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreBothmaTax Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 @knap Do you create your own CTRL / SUS tactics - or do you just use the guidelines provided by mentality matters? I downloaded TFF's Timewasting tactic for the SUS period to seal close games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 @AndreBothmaTax I make them in match when I need them. They will be similar to guide but may depend upon formation I am using and players at disposal. I try to encourage players to have a bash at making them and develop own style. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupant Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Update available on FMT or not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreBothmaTax Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, knap said: @AndreBothmaTax I try to encourage players to have a bash at making them and develop own style. I like that. I find that changing to a 4 1 4 1 or 4 4 1 1 is quite effective on cautious mentality. More often than not, the AI will attempt to go for a goal in the last few minutes, this normally leaves them exposed at the back and get punished by a AF making a run due to a DLP/BPD/W(A) supplying a through ball. My only losses this season so far was because of red card send off, early in the first half. I've been using BEOWULF442. By the way - do you ever remove the "pass into space/work ball into box" instruction during a game? Rashidi from BustTheNet frequently outplay AI teams by messing with the pass into space / work ball into box / hit early cross instructions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 @Daniel1981 Google docs is still best guide for home and away. or use Venom Home Sympathy away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 @Rupant If only. FMT I believe needs approval from other platforms, so no idea when it will update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 @AndreBothmaTax If you get a early red card then use a SUS. Often win the game this way. If you have a way of playing and it works there is little point in changing. However, having a plan B is worthwhile. Stargazing uses hit early crosses, or change formation, use man marking. In game you can use many ideas as it is short term and if it does noot work you can change again. Many ways to play game depending upon what you enjoy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupant Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, knap said: @Rupant If only. FMT I believe needs approval from other platforms, so no idea when it will update. Yeah.... Been refreshing since last night Nothing so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Active Triple X Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 want you to create a Man U plan. You've done Liverpool a lot. KNAP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tagaddin Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) Hey Knap, Speaking of SUS, i had SUS and CTRL tactics according to mentality matter that worked like a charm before the beta, guaranteed preserving the lead and even scored on counters Now they seems much less effective, most of the time when i use them now i got punished by a goal shortly after. for CTRL i use: 1-Cautious mentality 2-make sure at least 5 players are on defend/support duty 3-drop DL and LOE by 1 point 4- remove Stuck in (not activate stay on feet) 5-reduce pressing urgency to standard 6-remove counterpress 7-Activate keeper slow pace and short distribution 8-reduce directness to short and tempo to slow 9-remove pass to space and run at defense for SUS i use: 1-Defensive mentality 2-change WB to NNFB 3-drop DL to standard and drop LOE by 1 point 4- remove Stuck in (not activate stay on feet) 5-reduce pressing urgency to standard 6-remove counterpress and counter, activate regroup and hold shape 7-Activate keeper slow pace and short distribution 8-reduce directness to very short and tempo to very slow 9-remove pass to space and run at defense, activate dribble less and be more disciplined and waste time to max As i mentioned it's not working now as it used to be, may be you can tell me where i go wrong here or post your own CTRL/SUS modification to help me make them better? Thank you Edited February 6, 2020 by tagaddin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 @Active Triple X The Beta I used Sympathy with MU, so I would try the FM 20.2.4 Sympathy above. Mr Hough uses MU and we work together so we do cover tactics for MU. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 @Dersturmer T will have a look a 4141 as they were very good in FM 19. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Active Triple X Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Okay, I may not understand you 100%, but as I understand, you are saying that the Liverpool test plan can be used with Manchester United, right? @knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 @Active Triple X Same tactic in Beta with MU Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupant Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Update came on FMT just now... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Active Triple X Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Thank you @ปุ่ม Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miangelo Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 @knap With what tactic "sympathy" the results with Man UTD? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 @tagaddin Itend to keep same tactic but go defensive and change WB runs. Regroup and hold shape changes as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFly92 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 hi knap, which you're tac. are highscore? I had very stron team (CA 180 - 200) and my results its fine but almost my game are 2:1 or 2:0. I don't score more than 110 goals in league.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 @miangelo FM 20 2.4 Version above Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miangelo Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 @knap is in there? 442 Sympathy for the Devil P103 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 FM 20.2.4 Tactics !FM20.2.4SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipP103FACC.fmf !FM20.2.4Venom&Faith442KnapP101EC.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenosejak Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 39 minutes ago, knap said: FM 20.2.4 Tactics !FM20.2.4SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipP103FACC.fmf 44.91 kB · 33 downloads !FM20.2.4Venom&Faith442KnapP101EC.fmf 45.15 kB · 22 downloads Sympathy good for underdogs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGreen555 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Any chance of any great 3 at the back formations @knap? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusho79bv Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, knap said: FM 20.2.4 Tactics !FM20.2.4SympathyforthedevilKnapZaipP103FACC.fmf 44.91 kB · 95 downloads !FM20.2.4Venom&Faith442KnapP101EC.fmf 45.15 kB · 73 downloads Hey @Knap Any chance of a 4-1-2-2-1 and a 4-2-3-1 for 20.2.4 ? 20.2.3 Preachin Blues was sensational ! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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