archerz Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 4231 parisianne has my prem league striker 34 goals so far. about 10-15 each AMC/L/R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Just a general thought: Unbelievable how it's almost impossible to stick with one tactic for too long in '20. At least that's what I see deep into my save with all regens. Gotta keep the AI guessing. Nice that there plenty of tactics available though. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
archerz Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, Heywood JaBlowme said: Just a general thought: Unbelievable how it's almost impossible to stick with one tactic for too long in '20. At least that's what I see deep into my save with all regens. Gotta keep the AI guessing. Nice that there plenty of tactics available though. typically i can run the same tactic most of the season. then the last 10-15 games the AI works it out so i change slightly. usually same formation, just a different roles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FulhamFc14 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 41 minutes ago, archerz said: 4231 parisianne has my prem league striker 34 goals so far. about 10-15 each AMC/L/R Thanks, which 4231 Parisianne version do you recommend? Can you link it please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
archerz Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, FulhamFc14 said: Thanks, which 4231 Parisianne version do you recommend? Can you link it please? can't remember the download but this is the file... FM20.4.0-4231KnapPar1s-ParisienneWalkwaysSKEWWSSVOL2RDFTweak Search the google doc for 4231 and it'll show up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roantull Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 how play this game:D always random result Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
psvpingu Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 On 07/08/2020 at 17:46, knap said: @psvpingu Should not need to change mentality with MM Sadly this hasn't worked, losing most games 1 or 2 nil and only having about 3-4 shots a game, I think the Man marking has made it worse. Going to switch to RDF tactic which name I forget but is top of the Mr L underdog table, these have been brilliant up until now, but with an average team in the premier league I'm getting found out. I have made my own tactic (the flying goose) but don't want to test it on this save Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 @psvpingu The updated recommendations are the MR L Testing tab. If yo send me yuor game I will have a look Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
psvpingu Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 1 hour ago, knap said: @psvpingu The updated recommendations are the MR L Testing tab. If yo send me yuor game I will have a look I'll PM you later when I'm on my laptop 😀 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hades085 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Hello i want to ask, is there any tactic with 2 strikers, where striker constantly scoring every match? and my team are considered elite team with mbappe and world class regen on front Thank You Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 @hades085 I would try the top 2 striker tactics from MR L Test tab. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman123 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 @knap What is your take on AI working out your tactic? Did you test any of the tactics multiple seasons? Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, Diceman123 said: @knap What is your take on AI working out your tactic? Did you test any of the tactics multiple seasons? Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 @hades085 Tweaked version of top tactic 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 @Diceman123 Lasy year I tested mulyiple seasons with no problem. This year it is more unpredictable and so far only 2 seasons. When testing tactics using high and low reputations, the lower rep team (representing an underdog) always performed better than the high rep team. (with my teats) The theory is that the AI play more defensive against a high rep team. Is this because defensive tactics work better or the AI have adapted to your tactics or the ME adjusts your teams ability by say making your team over confident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABRAXUS Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 2 dakika önce, knap said: @Diceman123 Lasy year I tested mulyiple seasons with no problem. This year it is more unpredictable and so far only 2 seasons. When testing tactics using high and low reputations, the lower rep team (representing an underdog) always performed better than the high rep team. (with my teats) The theory is that the AI play more defensive against a high rep team. Is this because defensive tactics work better or the AI have adapted to your tactics or the ME adjusts your teams ability by say making your team over confident. hello knap link please ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 @ABRAXUS Link to what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABRAXUS Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Just now, knap said: @ABRAXUS Link to what? Tweaked version of top tactic. Can you share the link of this tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 @ABRAXUS Still in testing, just finished Lpool test and noticed that both strikers were scoring well. It may overall be not as good as current top tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 @Heywood JaBlowme Difficult to find a way to replicate this in testing. Certainly the high low rep still works the same in FM 20. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinball_88 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 My Team: Bordeaux. Can anybody explain what wrong with my team and why i have disgusting and unstable results? What tactics should I use to get my forwards to start scoring? What do I need to do to get the team to start scoring? what tactics is better to use with such a team? http://www.mediafire.com/file/756pzn25mkbu9t8/FCB.fm/file 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filip974 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 https://community.sigames.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=298537 This is for me the best version of PREACHIN blues: PREACHIN BLUES 451 VOL 2 P106 CC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvin0131 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 @knap would you set ledas tactical briefings to assistant manager? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 @kelvin0131 Nope, I just skip them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 @Diceman123 5 year run and I would probably conclude that RNG is the major factor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
archerz Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) ignore this. reading a post from months ago lol... Edited August 10, 2020 by archerz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman123 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 hours ago, knap said: @Diceman123 5 year run and I would probably conclude that RNG is the major factor Impressive! So you mean that RNG is in this case positive for using the same tactic? Which tactic is this one btw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Lord Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Open question to all...how do you deal with the mid season dip? Do you get it? Every season I seem to start strong (very strong in some cases) but come December my form goes off a cliff and doesnt really recover. I have tried all the things suggested by FM Scout but cant seem to snap them out of it! Players morale very good or better, made signings, given new contracts to top players. Does switching tactics help even when its been working well? Any help/advice much appreciated. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 @Sith Lord There is RNG which means you can have good luck at beginning of season and then back luck to even out. However the good luck is increaing rep which means at some point the AI will turn more defensive. When testing tactics using high and low reputations, the lower rep team (representing an underdog) always performed better than the high rep team. (with my teats) The theory is that the AI play more defensive against a high rep team. Is this because defensive tactics work better or the AI have adapted to your tactics or the ME adjusts your teams ability by say making your team over confident. The easiest way to overcome these factors is by having the best team.. I just run 5 seasons with Lpool and they can dominate the P,L but there will still be RNG from season to season. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hades085 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Ok thanks for the answer @knap cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 @pinball_88 Can you run it forward to start of next seasons as you should finish 3rd this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABRAXUS Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 @knap Would you suggest a successful tactic for small teams or share your 5 season Liverpool tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 @ABRAXUS I just used the tactic top of my MR L Testing. I would just avoid the Elite tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Mid season dips & viruses; never had a season without them happening. Ever. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante-Inferno Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I've been playing FM since the CM times, but never really got into tactics as much as I have this season. I've downloaded the tactic top of M L testing for a wolves save I have going. I was just wondering what kind of attributes I should prioritise across the different positions. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 MR L Test Sicilian 4222 P334 (182-152) !FM20.2.0SICILIAN442DLKnapP99ECCCP334(172-152).fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Apologies, but how does this Sicilian rank against your top tactics currently? Unlike previous versions, I haven’t had much luck with this formation in 20.4.1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 @Heywood JaBlowme It is weaker in the later updates. It is still a solid test and CA 135 result is good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 FM 19 Tactic MR L Test P342 (181-141) !!!!!FM19.3.4BEOWULF442KnapP106ALLCUPSP342(181-161).fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FulhamFc14 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 On 08/08/2020 at 20:37, archerz said: 4231 parisianne has my prem league striker 34 goals so far. about 10-15 each AMC/L/R Thanks. Tactic started well for me but just seemed to fall of a cliff in terms of results in the second half of the season, I was still dominating games but just couldn't score. Will look at trying to find another 4231 or 41221 from the testing league where my attacking players are all able to perform. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 12, 2020 Author Share Posted August 12, 2020 @FulhamFc14 Maybe try Parisienne skew or the normal version as a minor tweak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinball_88 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 @knap finished only fifth. lost all matches to teams from the top four and almost all matches against outsiders. the team scores very little. now a new season has started and again after two wins at the start, again defeats against the leaders (without a chance) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 12, 2020 Author Share Posted August 12, 2020 @Dante-Inferno This is a record breaking Celtic squad which may be a guide as to what type of players work well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 12, 2020 Author Share Posted August 12, 2020 @pinball_88 Send me your save and I will have a look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FulhamFc14 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 1 hour ago, knap said: @FulhamFc14 Maybe try Parisienne skew or the normal version as a minor tweak. Hi @knap which ID are they? (sorry a little confused with all the similar names) or are they in the MrL tests tab? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 12, 2020 Author Share Posted August 12, 2020 @FulhamFc14 With Both Tabs you can sort by name. Altenating between Parisienne and the skew version may just be enough of a tweak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman123 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Anyone also noticed that in a 4231 the 2 MC's always have the lowest average rating!? All my players have 7+ and they have like 6.8 and lower... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earnie is God! Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 I find that the CMs and AMs rarely have good ratings unless they score. Scrape a 7 or so with an assist perhaps but that's it. The rating system is pretty flawed tbh. GKs hardly ever get good ratings either but DMs, especially if playing as a DLP, tend to rate highly.🤷♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
archerz Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 11 hours ago, FulhamFc14 said: Thanks. Tactic started well for me but just seemed to fall of a cliff in terms of results in the second half of the season, I was still dominating games but just couldn't score. Will look at trying to find another 4231 or 41221 from the testing league where my attacking players are all able to perform. same thing for me really, have a few games where they just can't score. i try to have 2 squads and swap them a lot to keep form as best as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecrossley Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 On 08/08/2020 at 13:22, archerz said: can't remember the download but this is the file... FM20.4.0-4231KnapPar1s-ParisienneWalkwaysSKEWWSSVOL2RDFTweak Search the google doc for 4231 and it'll show up @knapIs there a tactic that compliments this one or a tweak that you use for when you play against bigger sides/away from home? I’ve previously used this tactic and loved how productive it is but I’ve always struggled against fellow members of the top 6 both home and away on a consistent basis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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