knap Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 @Floegens I just explore what can de done. I am unaware of any specific reason to use different set ups For eaample no PIs may work better for top players that can use their talent and play the position in LL they have to be told what do and restrict their options. When I test in LL I would say the same work just as well as with Lpool. Many will tell you to keep it simple and I would give same advice if anyone was setting up a tacti but it is not necessary. If you take a 3rd with West Brom with a top team tactic like PARISIENNE then it is not easy to say work will work . It is usually only when good long testing takes place that the tactics can be pigeon holed. Not sure many are interested in tactic names and the set up behind them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreed Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 5 hours ago, DavyDepuydt1 said: @knap I've asked it last week and nobody replied, but another guy asked it two days ago and SI replied "The game uses the match tactics selected. There's no change to roles or mentality, as there is Match Plans for that purpose. " find it hard to believe this. something must be different as i win so much more when i holiday than when playing myself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreindeker Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Is it just me or has this patch just completely shagged the game? Reminds me of the one on FM20 around Christmas that meant you'd never score a 1v1 No matter which tactic I use we (Hearts and Stockport, both first season) barely score a goal a game if I play them. If I instant result the matches, however, we win 4-0 or 5-0, it's utterly bizarre. Feel like pure **** just want HGF P105 back :P 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 @agreed It was tested i n FM 16 and IR was better than Holiday. You should get the best results playing the game.. Maybe tri IR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 @Kreindeker If you check my YT Vids there are a few goals and onev ones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 FM 21.4 ME PILGRIMAGE 4141 P105 EC FM21.4PILGRIMAGEKnap4141P105EC.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 @knap i believe this may have changed since FM16, when the AM clearly changed role duties when holidaying. Now in FMT i don't see any difference in results (tactic performance) between IR & holiday and full fat holiday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 With holiday you can go back and watch the game. Not sure you can do that with IR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, knap said: With holiday you can go back and watch the game. Not sure you can do that with IR Yes you can Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDog89 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 34 minutes ago, knap said: FM 21.4 ME PILGRIMAGE 4141 P105 EC FM21.4PILGRIMAGEKnap4141P105EC.fmf 45.11 kB · 11 downloads Is this your latest/best tactic for FM and the newest update? I am gonna have a go with FC Midtjylland, but i really need som experience and a tactic that could work? Which roles do you train each position? Left foot for left wing or? Any special or good abiliies would be good for the different players? Thanks in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 @TheDog89 Warrior 442 p104 is current top tactic. AM takes training. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDog89 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, knap said: @TheDog89 Warrior 442 p104 is current top tactic. AM takes training. @knap Is there anywere that i can read more about that tactics? Like: Preferred players preferred stats etc Thanks in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhay53 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 I have been using AM recommended OI's with Parisienne and in my estimation it has improved the defense quite a bit. I started doing this after somebody on Youtube said that SI had stated that "OI's are very important in the match engine". I never tracked down the source of that off-hand comment, but it has worked very well for me as RC Lens in Ligue 1, as I've been best or second best in xG against for 1.5 seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeze Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, drhay53 said: He estado usando los OI recomendados por AM con Parisienne y, en mi opinión, ha mejorado bastante la defensa. Empecé a hacer esto después de que alguien en Youtube dijera que SI había dicho que "las OI son muy importantes en el motor de partidos". Nunca encontré la fuente de ese comentario improvisado, pero me ha funcionado muy bien como RC Lens en la Ligue 1, ya que he sido el mejor o el segundo mejor en xG durante 1.5 temporadas. What are the oi and the am? Ty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhay53 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Zeze said: What are the oi and the am? Ty I just use whatever is suggested during the pre-match tactical meeting, or anything that pops up in the dugout during the game. Except I ignore any suggestions to use specific man-marking on a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeze Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, drhay53 said: Solo uso lo que se sugiera durante la reunión táctica previa al partido, o cualquier cosa que aparezca en el dugout durante el juego. Excepto que ignoro cualquier sugerencia para usar marcas de hombre específicas en un jugador. Thank you so much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateus34 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Hi Knap, What do you think are the 2 highest scoring tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 FM 21.4 ME TIME 41212 P103 EC FM21.4TIMEKnap41212P103EC.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 @Mateus34 You can sort google docs by goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 FM 21.4 ME TIME 41221 P103 ALL CUPS FM21.4TIMEKnap41221P103ALLCUPS.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simssi Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 @knap Which 433 tactic would you recommend? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lijieneo Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) @knap Hi, after hours testing, this is the only 5-star potential tactic (without MENTALITY and POSSESSION set up) I'v got. Any suggestion on MENTALITY and POSSESSION set up? Thanks. Edited January 3, 2021 by lijieneo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lijieneo Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 BTW this is what I'v been using all the time 4-4-2. And you can see it got a lot problem, I could got a lot of goals and losing lots goals as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reaper Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 hour ago, lijieneo said: How did you do this test? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartandgroin Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Good Morning @knap I've just started a Ferguson Challenge and ended up with Aston Villa. Decent first XI, but lacking with cover/quality up front so need to rely heavily on Ollie Watkins for the rest of the season. Can you recommend a 1 up top formation for a team predicted to fight relegation? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egecann Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 2 hours ago, The Reaper said: How did you do this test? Rate my Tactic web app Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Robot Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 23 hours ago, knap said: @Mr.Robot BEOWULF is usually a 442 mid passing and tempo 442 PREACHIN usually 451 BLUE MATTER Usually 433 KASHMIR Very attacking type tactics usually 433 PARISIENE 4231 TIME No PIs used on outfield players DARK SIDE Maximum PIs and many TIs GOODBYE Minimum TI s HGF Usually very high tempo short passing VENOM High tempo short passing ROUTE 66 Very Direct passing MAD AS A HATTER Very attacking formation STARGAZING Uses Hit earl crosses PILGRIMAGE Usually 4141 WARRIOR Based from VOL Attack RUN LIKE HELL Outfield players on roam ARGUS Usually 3 at Back Most can morph into different formations or different instructions @knap so much thank you for your efforts, really! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 @Mr.Robot I will put nome meaning on google docs, but they do morpth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 @heartandgroin I would try Parisienne 4231 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 @lijieneo What theory is it based on, and what results are achieved with these tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 FM 21.4 ME TIME 41221 SS P105 FA FM21.4TIMEKnap41221SSP105FA.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 @lijieneo Using TIME Base - 5 Star tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lijieneo Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 小时前, knap说: @lijieneo Using TIME Base - 5 Star tactic Cool Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyes92300 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Hello i want 343 IF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 @knapso I have haaland mbappe they are my main stars and have many good wingers in my Chelsea save what would be best tactic to use Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulinho26 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) @knap have you already ranked the tactics like you did last season ? Edited January 3, 2021 by Paulinho26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 FM 21.4 ME TIME 41320 P106 FM21.4TIMEKnap41320P106.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulinho26 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 And btw @knapwich one is the 41212 time you use in your youtube video were you won 7-3 to bayern ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 @Paulinho26 Still waiting for a test league. TIME on this page Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 @Scruffer23 Parisienne 4231 or other 4231s or Warrior 442 or Mad as a Hatter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 FM 21.4 ME ARGUS 3421 P102 FA FM21.4ARGUSknap3421P102FA.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo1983 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 @knap When using Warrior 442 the right striker is listed as a CF on support, with teams where you can not get good star CF's which role would be best replacement TM on support or PF on support? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre62 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 @knap This 2 tactics still work on the new match engine?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 @pablo1983 I've been setting up filters, not had chance to test them. Otherer tests are being carried out but go fo pace acceleration and finishing.. You need to tweak and tone them down for lesser leagues. ST Knap.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 @andre62 Away should be working but I ,e not tested with Kingstonian recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 FM 21.4 ME TFIME 41230 P103 CC FM21.4TIMEKnap41230P103CC.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 FM 21.4 ME TIME 41140 P102 FA FM21.4TIMEKnap41140P102FA.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamieac Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 On 26/12/2020 at 20:41, Jamieac said: Last season I was all over the place trying to find a tactic that worked for me. This season I stuck with FM21PARISIENNEWALKWAY Winger version the whole season. Predicted 7th My young 17 Year old striker was also Top goalscorer with 40 League goals. Strikerless looks interesting right now, but playing in the lower leagues I think I will stick to a more traditional setup and see how far I can take it Update, Back to back promotions! My now 18 Year old striker still tearing it up Saw the West Brom save with the same tactic coming 3rd in PL on positive mentality. I have been experimenting with different mentalities in game but maybe I will start with positive. I was using it when I felt the play was too rushed and they do seem to make better decisions on positive, but I was cautious that it might blunt the attack too much with most players on support. Thanks Again @knap 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 FM 21.4 ME TIME 41410 P103 EC FM21.4TIMEKnap41410P103EC.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Robot Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) On 02/01/2021 at 19:06, knap said: @TheDog89 Warrior 442 p104 is current top tactic. AM takes training. @knap but i should use ur trainings shedules right? Edited January 4, 2021 by Mr.Robot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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