Smigo08 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 On 08/07/2023 at 13:30, knap said: CITY LUTON TEST Doesn't the VOL (Gundogun) block the Right sided IWB? i was told that if that space is occupied then the IWB wont invert, or is this intended not to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jo3er Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 A valid 442/424 with this ME? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 10, 2023 Author Share Posted July 10, 2023 @jo3er What do you mean by valid? without DMs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 10, 2023 Author Share Posted July 10, 2023 @Smigo08 On attack the SV is a lot further forward Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 10, 2023 Author Share Posted July 10, 2023 ME 23.2 WARRIOR 424 BBM PDG P 106 ALL CUPS LENS P86 ME23.2WARRIORKnap424BBMPSGP106ALLLENSP86.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex1234 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Hey knap I started a new save with luton town ...using tactics WOF 424 P103 EC FA .Its working amazing .currently at 4th spot first season with only free transfers I am almost scoring a lot of goals and conceding as well a few . Most of the matches I will go 1-0 up or 2-0 up .But most of the teams start ramping up the pressure .And often it will end 1-1 or 2-2 .What are some of the things I can change in the tactics to protect the lead . I know you can play safer towards the 75 min mark onwards but before that What can be done to play a bit more defensive solid . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 @alex1234 Manny tweaks in OP but try cautious and mid block Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAFC_Dugout Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 9 hours ago, knap said: ME 23.2 WARRIOR 424 BBM PDG P 106 ALL CUPS LENS P86 ME23.2WARRIORKnap424BBMPSGP106ALLLENSP86.fmf 45.27 kB · 13 downloads Is there any change to this than the original warrior tactic? If so any tweaks you’d recommend to concede fewer goals, dropped defensive line, BBM midfielder dropped to DM etc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebel Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Hey guys and @knap For a 4231 formation (top 5 team in the league), which of these WOF would perform better (and offer a Joga Bonito)? ME23.2WHEELSOFFIREKnap424P103ECF4231MHDP113FAT WOF 4231 BAL PSG P110 EC CC WOF 4231 MHD ATT PSG P110 EC FA WOF 4231 MLD P112 EC CC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 @PAFC_Dugout Yes but may only be passing. 2 DMs should concede less or try cautious mid block. OIs may help picking up striker or attacking midfielder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) @sebel PSG tactics are for teams that can dominate league unless there was a good LENS test Apart from P112 424 Edited July 11, 2023 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebel Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) Il y a 4 heures, knap a dit : @sebel PSG tactics are for teams that can dominate league unless there was a good LENS test @knap So if I understand correctly, none of your PSG tactics are recommended for teams that are not likely to dominate a league? Edited July 11, 2023 by sebel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 @sebel If just PSG then you have to dominate or use for home games. Even with PSG ay need another tactic for CL Away. A few tactics are PSG and Lens predicted 9th, so can be used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cini6565 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Arsenal first season with updated summer transfers and struggling a lot with both WOF 3-2-4-1 and WOF 4-3-1-2. In my head I have a strong XI given Timber, Rice and Havertz are also in the squad. And I suppose fairly frequently it scores loads but I also concede a heck of a lot and draw and lose quite a few games. Currently third in the league, 10pts off City. Lost 7-6 on aggregate to Barça in europa last 16. 6-6 and a pen loss to Chelsea in league cup. FA Cup semi to Liverpool coming up shortly but the league is basically long gone. Not quite feeling these tactics compared to last seasons which were unreal. Don't ever really watch a game and think I dominate a match and regularly have possession in low to mid 40s. What tactic would you be using for an Arsenal that also has Rice, Timber and Havertz @knap? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 @cini6565 I would try the 424 P103 EC FA or PSG P112 424 How are home results with PEP 3241 or PSG 4312 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cini6565 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 21 minutes ago, knap said: @cini6565 I would try the 424 P103 EC FA or PSG P112 424 How are home results with PEP 3241 or PSG 4312 Almost flawless. One freak home 2-0 loss to spurs at the start but that harked back to the days of FM2002 with super keepers. But Barça home was 4-3. Chelsea 4-2. So still concede a lot and rarely have more possession than anyone. Just score even more. Will give those two a try. Are they more stable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cini6565 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 On 26/05/2023 at 19:47, knap said: ME 23.2 KASHMIR 451 TI Arsenal P88 EC ME23.2KASHMIRKnap451TIArsenalP88EC.fmf 46.72 kB · 1,133 downloads Is this one also viable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 @cini6565 The 424s are more stable, but for possession you need BLACK ECHOE. 451s are not the best formation but this similar 42121should be more stable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 LLENS PSG TEST 44 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giraffin Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Could you do a PSG/Lens test with WOF 424 PSG P112 FA CC? If you havent done one already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 @Giraffin It is top of HUB Test and saved Luton from relegation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giraffin Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, knap said: @Giraffin It is top of HUB Test and saved Luton from relegation Amazing! Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) FM 23 TACTICS GOOGLE DOCS Knap FM2023 - Google Sheets YT Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCILCgjDOjzTjS2OjaTpwxJg KEY ATTRIBUTES GK Handling Reflexes (Acceleration Agility Decisions- Train) DRL Acceleration Pace Decisions ( Stamina Agility Acceleration - Train) DC Decisions Positioning Marking Acceleration Pace Strength Jumping (Decisions Marking - Train) WBRL Acceleration Pace Decisions (Stamina Acceleration - Train) DM Acceleration Pace Decisions (Agility Decisions Tackling - Train) MRL Acceleration Pace (Agility Acceleration - Train) MC Acceleration Pace Vision Passing (Decisions Stamina - Train) AMRL Acceleration Pace Dribbling (Stamina Pace Acceleration - Train) AMC Acceleration Pace Vision ( Stamina Agility Acceleration- Train) ST Acceleration Pace (Finishing Acceleration Heading Jumping - Train) GENERAL Acceleration Pace Anticipation Agility Balance Concentration work rate Guide to test results PSG Elite Man City / Lpool top MU/Arsenal CA 160 top 4-10 Spurs 140 10 - 15 CA 120 15 -20 relegation AWAY GAMES CONTROL and SUS ( SUS Tactic on Docs is a 4231) With regard to Away games it depends upon your own risk factor. I am gung ho and prefer to attack and perhaps win 1 game in 3. If risk adverse then use a defensive tactic and perhaps draw all 3 games. As a defensive formation I would use451/ 4141 as it has a DM and protects wings. AWAY GAME TWEAKS - Cautious Mentality WB on support DM on Defend CONTROL TACTIC The LOE can be adjusted to MID BLOCK Remove Counter Press and/or Counter For a SUS these are ideas to use. Remove counter press counter Remove pass into space Stop WB runs by going to defend or no nonsense FB Change mentality cautious/Defensive full SUS would be to regroup and hold shape Adjust SPs for more players to stay back I tend to judge what to use by how the game is progressing as you may just to want to control game rather than a full SU Attribute_Weights.pdf.pdf35.17 kB · 59 downloads MARTINHO Shouts guide: Score: 0-0; after 15 mins the first shout is always 'encourage'. If still 0-0 at 25 mins shout 'demand more' (in 90% of matches). If you are a small team against a top team, use 'no pressure'. If still 0-0, at 37 mins shout 'encourage' again. Repeat this cycle in the 2nd half if still 0-0. Break from this cycle if at any point if you score. Praise the individals who scored the goal, and player that gave the assist. If the match continues 1-0 to 90 mins, no further shouts will be needed. Ive not found any shout consistently effective when 1 nil up. If you score a second goal, again praise the individals who scored the goal and the player that gave the assist. If you score a 3rd goal, then 'priase' the entire team. (4th goal = priase goalscorer and assister, 5th goal 'praise' entire team and so on.) If the opponents equalise, revert to the cycle of 'encourage' and 'demand more' as above, but be cautious not to use the same team shout twice in a row. If 2 nil up or 3 nil and the opposition bring it back to 2-1 or 3-1, dont use any shout. If ever a goal down, instead of cycling 'encourge' and 'demand more', cycle 'demand more' and 'show some passion', except however as soon as you concede the first shout should be 'encourage' (unless you had previously used the 'encourage' shout last when you were drawing). If 2 goals down, the first shout (on immediately condeding the 2nd goal) should be 'berate'. If you continue to be 2 goals down, cycle 'berate', 'show some passion' and 'demand more'. When you equalise, immediatley after the equalising goal goes use either 'encourge' or 'demand more' (based on your previous shouts in the match (you never want to use 'encourge' or 'demand more' twice in a row as you wont get as a good a rection), then go back to cycling these 2 shouts. Only stop this cycle if you go in front, at which time you will revert to praising the goalscorer and assister (except if you go in front to make the score 3-2, you should use that opportunity to 'praise' the entire team). Exceptions: 2nd leg of 2 legged ties. The 2nd leg of a tie only follows these rules above if you are drawing or behind. If winning from the 1st leg, do not use any shouts as they will have poor results, that is, unless you score, then follow the above shouts for going 1-0, 2-0 and 3-0 up, or if your opponent equalised the tie on aggregate (or takes the lead on aggregate) then go back to following the above suggestions. Hope that is clear ! Cadoni recommended shouts or use AM for Shouts FM22 Shouts - Encourage (0-0; 20 min mark) - Calm Down (win 1-0 after you scoring) - Demand More (draw) - Praise (win by 2 goals) - Berate (loss by 2 goals o judge what to use by how the game is progressing as you may just to want to control game rather than a full SU TRAINING SCHEDUES CADONI TRAINING TRAINING - Google Drive Edited July 11, 2023 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matisptfan Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 1 hour ago, knap said: LLENS PSG TEST 44 2 Can I have a link / file for this one, please? I have noticed that in other posts you include an attachment but I don't see any for this 4X4X2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 @matisptfan Normally because it is a test of an existing tactic, with the aim of improving tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matisptfan Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, knap said: @matisptfan Normally because it is a test of an existing tactic, with the aim of improving tactic Thanks for the clarification, will give it a try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) ARSENAL EVERTON TEST 424 T Edited July 14, 2023 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAFC_Dugout Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 11 hours ago, knap said: LLENS PSG TEST 44 2 Sorry to ask the same question but any changes to this one? Loved this tactic when FM23 first came out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedesco Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Where is this tactic ( WOF 424 PSG P112 FA CC) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jo3er Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Il 10/7/2023 in 20:02 , knap ha scritto: @jo3er What do you mean by valid? without DMs? That still works with thr last ME Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cudny95 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, PAFC_Dugout said: Sorry to ask the same question but any changes to this one? Loved this tactic when FM23 first came out Is there a link to this tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 @PAFC_Dugout It is the ME 23.2 version probably not changed much apart from SPs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 @Cudny95 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 @jo3er 424s with DMs is top performing formation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 @tedesco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jo3er Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 39 minuti fa, knap ha scritto: @jo3er 424s with DMs is top performing formation So FM23.2 BEOWULF TI 424 MHD Arsenal P91 EC can work (with lower pressing or can work only with high intensity?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stian Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 14 hours ago, knap said: LLENS PSG TEST 44 2 @knap Since you have tested this with a team like Lens, this could be a good underdog tactic? Could you do a test for lower-league for this? Like for Dulwich Hamlet as you have done in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) @jo3er A mid block usually works it does not really lower intensity I will post a few tactics with reduced tweaks Edited July 12, 2023 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 @Stan They are lower league tests rather than underdog tests Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hekaton266 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, knap said: @Stan They are lower league tests rather than underdog tests Hello Knap and great work with the tactics as always. please can you recommend me a tactic of 3 strikers up front for latest game engine? I'm old school that prefers strikers to wingers and use manchester united. thanks mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 @hekaton266 A wide diamond type 4123 suits the ME more than a narrow tactic like 433 or 4123 such as Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Lord Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 I am looking for recommendations from anyone for a fun new tactic (Knap, obviously) to use as I not been able to find anything that gives as good results as the ME23.1HGFKnapBALSP4231IFVOLArsenalP95ECFA. Pretty poor lower team. Dont really like the 424's. Enjoyed the striker-less for a bit but the single pivots are just too unstable for longer term Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 @Sith Lord These are tactics de to e released Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hekaton266 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, knap said: @hekaton266 A wide diamond type 4123 suits the ME more than a narrow tactic like 433 or 4123 such as Ok, thanks. I will check out the 4123 tactics! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Lord Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 26 minutes ago, knap said: @Sith Lord These are tactics de to e released Thank you! Looks intriguing Would the attacking mentality be a worry for a poorer side? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 @Sith Lord There is a balanced version 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 ME 23.2 SLOE GIN 442 PDG P108FA CC LENS P82 ME23.2SLOEGINKnap424PSGP108FACCLLENSP82.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrylweezy Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 It may sound difficult but could you create a working 3-4-3 diamond with wingers? Would love to use that formation but I can not get the right instructions/player roles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 13, 2023 Author Share Posted July 13, 2023 @darrylweezy Can you post screenshot of formation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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