knap Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 ME 23.2 WOF 4231 IW SKEW 339 ME23.2WOFKnap4231IWSkewP339.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreasloesnes Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 @knap could you test ME23.2WHEELSOFFIREKnap451IWDLPP106FACC again? hasn't been nearly as effective these last weeks as previously.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 @andreasloesnes I will test a few 451s see how it performs. As the ME has not changed any changes in your save that may have effected results? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 ME 23.2 WOF 4231 IW P325 ME23.2WOFKnap4231IWP325.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreasloesnes Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, knap said: @andreasloesnes I will test a few 451s see how it performs. As the ME has not changed any changes in your save that may have effected results? not really. was working as it always has one night, and when I continued the next day, the results were no where near. have played 3-4 saves since, and its the same problem on all of them. at home its pretty effective, but its in away games it usually collapses. also in general, there's a lot more goals conceded Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashidi Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 On 09/08/2023 at 18:00, knap said: @pan1majonez TEST AGAINST ELITE so a type of underdog test Away test You like the TTT? :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 @Rashidi I would say the Elite league is a good test, but the others tend to give similar results. I would prefer 4 Elite leagues or 2 Elite 2 Balanced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashidi Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, knap said: @Rashidi I would say the Elite league is a good test, but the others tend to give similar results. I would prefer 4 Elite leagues or 2 Elite 2 Balanced. Yeah then it would take slightly longer. The goal was to make sure that people understood the impact of their own tactics on different teams. Balanced is just your average league, and the 3 other leagues are the litmus test Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansketroy Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Hi Knap I will start a new season with man utd but Im not sure witch tactic to use with them. I really like the 4-3-2-1 What would u use?, so many to choose from thx in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 @dansketroy Go with 4321 with this maybe as backup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 @andreasloesnes Maybe a problem against top sides, so will see if this can be improved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreasloesnes Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 @knap yeah been thumped 6-0 quite a fet times against the top teams. but outside of those matches, it's as effective as it used to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansketroy Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 50 minutes ago, knap said: @dansketroy Go with 4321 with this maybe as backup Thanks Knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mielony Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 ME23.2WOFKnap424PSGP112FACC 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 @andreasloesnes Top 451 so far on this test ME23.2WOFKnap451IWDLPP315.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsalai Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Which 4231 would you recommend for Man City (no update)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 @monsalai Either the to HUB or the TTT versions above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreasloesnes Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) cheers @knap! have you done this test previously with any of the 451s? if so, how did they perform compared to this one? Edited August 13, 2023 by andreasloesnes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 @andreasloesnes Yes, as you need to benchmark with any test, and this is best 451 so far on this test. Also won PL and saved Luton 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureOld Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 with 4231 ! it works fantastic till now ! i play with full leagues ( realism etc database / details etc ) i really enjoy this tactic ! @knap <3 ME23.2WOFKnap4231P102ECCC.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureOld Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 @knap about individual training ! i set players to train into player role/possition ! and i add some more stats but i get a lot of injures ;/ i have almost best coaches etc ! i remove the rest of attributes and i let only player possition/role ! its that ok? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pan1majonez Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 1 hour ago, knap said: @andreasloesnes Tak, ponieważ musisz porównać z jakimkolwiek testem, a to jak dotąd najlepsze 451 w tym teście. Wygrał też PL i uratował Luton In england magic barrier 40 points:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 @pan1majonez Most tactics will end in a sacking with Luton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 @PureOld Do you have 1 or 2 rest days after games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureOld Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 28 minutes ago, knap said: @PureOld Do you have 1 or 2 rest days after games i use cadoni schedule and i have 2 rest if they are tired ! then normal and if they are full i have em double int Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 @PureOld I find FM very "clumpy" and you have a load injuries and then none. As long as you have good rotation and use subs in game hopefully injuries will decrease. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAFC_Dugout Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 2 hours ago, PureOld said: with 4231 ! it works fantastic till now ! i play with full leagues ( realism etc database / details etc ) i really enjoy this tactic ! @knap <3 ME23.2WOFKnap4231P102ECCC.fmf 47.53 kB · 13 downloads What tests better this or the WOF skew 4-2-3-1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 ME 23.2 WOF IW IWB DLP ARSENAL P92 EC ME23.2WOFKnap451IWIWBDLPARSENALP92EC.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureOld Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 3 hours ago, PAFC_Dugout said: What tests better this or the WOF skew 4-2-3-1? i havent test wof skew yet ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 ME 23.2 WOF 4231 IW P339 ME23.2WOFKnap4231IWP339.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irog Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 @knap What is the best 451 or 4231 with a DM not DLP? I've have a beast of a defensive midfielder not really cut out to be a deep lying playmaker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pan1majonez Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 12 hours ago, knap said: @PureOld Uważam, że FM jest bardzo „zbity” i masz obrażenia od obciążenia, a potem żadnych. Tak długo, jak masz dobrą rotację i używasz rezerwowych w grze, miejmy nadzieję, że kontuzje będą się zmniejszać. I have now beginning of the season And 5 injuries , every 4 or 5 weeks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 @Irog Top HUB Test tactics which now have own column. I have just updated KASHMIR 451 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haikal78 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) optimis with new season after promoted to premier league with blackburn... but @knap do you know how to reduce yeloow card my team received..?? Edited August 14, 2023 by haikal78 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 @haikal78 You can remove get stuck in and tackle harder. Testing shows tactics are better with them, so best to remove them only when necessary. However, over a season you may not them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haikal78 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 27 minutes ago, knap said: @haikal78 You can remove get stuck in and tackle harder. Testing shows tactics are better with them, so best to remove them only when necessary. However, over a season you may not them. okay thanx @knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyenglish Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 18 hours ago, knap said: @pan1majonez Most tactics will end in a sacking with Luton Does anyone know what the CA is of the Luton team? I'm newly promoted into the Premier League with a ~CA 120 team. Would like to know if the Luton results are comparable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 @Jimmyenglish You can use FM Scout tool, Genie Scout based on attributes or just check squad physicals comparison. Current Ability (CA) Calculator for Football Manager | FM Scout 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irog Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 @knap Where do i find the top hub test tactics in google sheets? and did you mean this kashmir tactic? KASHMIR 451 TI Arsenal P88 EC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 @Irog Just sort HUB Test column The latest WOF 451 may be better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreasloesnes Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 tested ME23.2WOFKnap451IWDLPP315 in tier 1-5, with teams predicted in the bottom 2-3 by the media. generally good results, with the exeption of national league, dunno what happened there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 @andreasloesnes Maybe try the Arsenal 451 as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 ME 23.2 WOF 4231 IW SKEW P339 ARSENAL P100 EC FA ME23.2WOFKnap4231IWSkewP339ARSENALP100ECFA.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 ME 23.2 VENOM 231 IW SKEW ARSENAL P94 58% ME23.2VENOMKnap4231IWSkewARSENALP9458%.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 ME 23.2 WOF IIW MHD ARSENAL P95 EC FA ME23.2WOFKnap451IWMHDP339ARSENALP95ECFA.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bivnn Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 @knap Which 3 tactics would you recommend for an underdog team in the newest version of FM23? Currently trying several ones from the sheets but not really great result. Would prefer some that use AMRL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 @bivnn Tried the top Norwich tactics? What are your physicals comparison Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bivnn Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 @knap Which one is Norwich? I could only see Everton/Bournemouth in the sheet. My team physical comparison pretty bad, all are below average of the league with exception of Jumping Reach Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 @bivnn Should be Luton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 ME 23.2 VENOM 4231 1W SKEW ARSEAL P94 ME23.2VENOMKnap4231IWSkewARSENALP9458%.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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